I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
So - what is the difference between false information and distorted information?
Did you actually look into what Walker really said?
He said that he read a story on what people would do with the money they saved from loan forgiveness. Nothing about using the cash they had gotten from the program, like you accused him of saying. Based on what you heard.
The largest and loudest group of people bringing inflammatory political talking points to the school board meetings are the inflamed parents demanding that books be removed and language be changed. Did you miss that part?
I'm not going to get into "they did this, they did that" and "this group does it more" with you. That's not productive. We can swing examples at eachother all day. It solves nothing.
No I didn't miss that. I agree that inappropriate books with graphic depictions of sexuall acts (LGBTQ or not)and/or violent content should not be allowed in schools for our children to consume.
There is a way to address that appropriately, not in the way some parents have or in the way some school officials have either. I will day for your benefit that the parents have on adverage, acted worse than school officials. However these parents that act badly are not "domestic terrorist" as some like to claim.
Simple communication, collaboration and transparency between parents, school officials and the community can all help with these issues.
Death threats are terrorist acts. My daughter, who serves on a school board, has received death threats over a book read in a classroom that did not have a graphic depiction of sexual acts.
Death threats are terrorist acts. My daughter, who serves on a school board, has received death threats over a book read in a classroom that did not have a graphic depiction of sexual acts.
Not sure where that came from, but that absolutely should not happen.
Not that it matters as far as threats go, but I'm curious as to what the book is, and what grade of classroom?
Death threats are terrorist acts. My daughter, who serves on a school board, has received death threats over a book read in a classroom that did not have a graphic depiction of sexual acts.
No one should ever be a victim of death threats. I am so sorry that that happened to her. I hope the police were called.
I would agree, death threats are terrifying! I was referring to the domestic terror definition, not the crime of death threats.
Hmm to piggy back off what TMB said it’s not as simple as you say Weetywill that people will think they are stupid and so they pose no threat so we should kind of ignore it. People can be extremely impressionable and have the need to act out in non constructive ways hence the Jan 6 attack, the increase in hate crimes, school shootings etc. Unfortunately SOME, (that was for Chare), people seem to latch onto the negative words of these inflamers/ inciters more readily and this almost always lead to violence.
I can agree with most of that. Again, we cannot police people's thoughts,beliefs words or even actions. With exception if it breaks a law.
So I'm not sure of what the solution is. I do not think you're suggesting this but, should we some how criminalize people for their beliefs or words? Monitor every email, social media post etc? Or perhaps ask other citizens to inform police when they hear someone else saying something they do not agree with or find offensive?
That's an extreem example but even proposing something like that is very dangerous.
Who would regulate this? The majority in the Senate? Congress? The POTUS? Would you want Trump deciding this? Or Republicans? I'm assuming you are more left?
Nope. I'm not going to buy that false equivalency. There is no liberal parallel to the election lies and denials from Trump and his MAGAphile sycophant candidates and politicians. What you claim to personally think about election denial on both sides is contrary to the known evidence and facts.
Let's be specific, from Dictionary.com Denier: a person who refuses to accept the existence, truth, or validity of something despite evidence or general support for it. You've heard of holocaust deniers or climate change deniers? Same idea.
Regardless of what you "think" about the threat of millions of Americans believing lies about the integrity of our election processes, recent history demonstrates that these conservative Americans confused and inflamed by lies will attack the congress, break laws by accessing voting equipment and subvert our very democracy because of those lies. Are you one of those people who believes that democracy is only lost in armed conflict?
I think you have really great points TMB, and I appreciate your citations. May I just say that your message may be more effective and recieved better by some if you didn't use inflammatory words like MAGAphile sycophant? I do not see others using that terminology.
If I'm out of line I'm sorry. And of course you can say what ever you wish!
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1 hour ago, Weetywill said:
I think you have really great points TMB, and I appreciate your citations. May I just say that your message may be more effective and recieved better by some if you didn't use inflammatory words like MAGAphile sycophant? I do not see others using that terminology.
If I'm out of line I'm sorry. And of course you can say what ever you wish!
What is inflammatory about MAGAphile other than it refers to Trumps political movement? Most -phile words connotate simply a fondness for a thing. Conservatives and Republicans are often uncomfortable when they feel grouped with Trump supporters. The term MAGAphile remedies that concern in a nonderogatory way. A unique term for a unique group of people.
Sycophant is a good word, it describes some of the people surrounding Trump very well.
What is inflammatory about MAGAphile other than it refers to Trumps political movement? Most -phile words connotate simply a fondness for a thing. Conservatives and Republicans are often uncomfortable when they feel grouped with Trump supporters. The term MAGAphile remedies that concern in a nonderogatory way. A unique term for a unique group of people.
Sycophant is a good word, it describes some of the people surrounding Trump very well.
I coined the term “magaphile” in order to think and talk about the group of people who agree with trump. It was the most non-pejorative word I could think of. I’m open to suggestions for alternative terminology.
What is inflammatory about MAGAphile other than it refers to Trumps political movement? Most -phile words connotate simply a fondness for a thing. Conservatives and Republicans are often uncomfortable when they feel grouped with Trump supporters. The term MAGAphile remedies that concern in a nonderogatory way. A unique term for a unique group of people.
Sycophant is a good word, it describes some of the people surrounding Trump very well.
Okay. Are you not using it in a inflammatory way?
Yes phile words connotate a fondness for things. Like a fondness sexually for children. Most nefarious and recognized, , pedophile. Which has a very bad connotation that most people are familiar with. We do not generally use that suffix to describe something good. Even though, by definition, itself in the English language, doesn't indicate it to be negative. And sycophant sounds like phyco ,in which we also generally use as a negative even though it's original definition isn't intended to be.
If you tell me that you are not using these words for their implied negativity, or to inflame and incite discust by using phile, then I have no reason not to believe you.
I think you put allot of thought into your post and honestly when I hear words like that, I usually stop reading.
(I will fully read a post if it is in direct reply to my post out of respect. Even so, I'm less likely to consider your other ideas when I do.)
I'm assuming you want change, and to prevent people from believing lies and propaganda. it's just my input on how you could achieve that better. I'm not an expert or anything, I appreciate when people point things like that out to me!).
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Did you actually look into what Walker really said?
He said that he read a story on what people would do with the money they saved from loan forgiveness. Nothing about using the cash they had gotten from the program, like you accused him of saying. Based on what you heard.