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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

toomuchbaloney said:

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What a mess.  Do you think $1 million will cover the costs of the evacuation? 

Hardly.  Considering the community population of 4700, $1 million comes out to about $212 per person.

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chare said:

Hardly.  Considering the community population of 4700, $1 million comes out to about $212 per person.

I wonder why the company didn't do that math. 

toomuchbaloney said:

I wonder why the company didn't do that math. 

Easy.  You say you're giving $1 million, it sounds like a lot of money.  You say you're giving each individual $212, it sounds like chicken poop.

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chare said:

Easy.  You say you're giving $1 million, it sounds like a lot of money.  You say you're giving each individual $212, it sounds like chicken poop.

LOL

Clever marketing can convince people of all kinds of unfortunate things. We have good examples of that in some of the legislation and votes here in Alaska.

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And "clever" politicians are apt for misrepresentation. 

"If you ask Biden and other Democrats, they'll likely tell you it's true. Republicans would likely say it's false.

The "sunset" term Biden used probably comes from a proposal by Sen. Scott stating, "all federal legislation sunsets in 5 years. If a law is worth keeping, Congress can pass it again.” 

That plan doesn't specifically mention Medicare or Social Security, though they'd be included. Others, like Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WY), have specifically called for Medicare and Social Security to be subjected to annual budget deliberations, which could lead to cuts.

In reality, there's no evidence suggesting that Republicans plan to cut Medicare and Social Security. Some support cuts, but party leaders have stated that it's not on their agenda. 

https://www.allsides.com/blog/misinformation-watch-biden-gop-trade-misleading-claims-social-security-medicare

 

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chare said:

I was only able to find two articles in addition to the one that @toomuchbaloney posted.  Aside from the headline of one,  neither of these articles describe any action other than the fact that Mr. Thomas did anything other than displayed his weapon.  Until further evidence is provided, don't you think this description is something of a stretch?

Michigan man accused of threatening utility workers with gun

Luzerne Man Pulls Gun on Workers Installing Fiber Optic Cable, MSP Say

The police arrested him and confiscated his Glock.  He said he would shoot the workers unless they left.  Res ipsa loquitor.

subee said:

The police arrested him and confiscated his Glock.  He said he would shoot the workers unless they left.  Res ipsa loquitor.

I went back and reread the article @toomuchbaloney posted, as well as the 2 that I found, and none of them mentioned anything about Mr. Thomas threatening to shoot anyone.  Other than the headline of one of the articles I found mentioning that Mr. Thomas "pulled" his weapon, the contents of all three state that he "displayed" it, which could describe a wide range of actions or behavior.

And, I've searched at least twice for additional information, and have been unable to find any updates.  If you have a source for your claim that he threatened to shoot the utility workers, perhaps you'd be so kind to provide the source.

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Senator John Fetterman, Democrat of Pennsylvania, who was hospitalized last week after feeling lightheaded, checked himself into Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Wednesday night to receive treatment for clinical depression, his office said on Thursday.

"While John has experienced depression off and on throughout his life, it only became severe in recent weeks,” Adam Jentleson, his chief of staff, said in a statement. He said that after undergoing an evaluation on Monday by Dr. Brian P. Monahan, the attending physician in Congress, Mr. Fetterman followed the recommendation for inpatient care at Walter Reed.

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Fetterman Checks Into Hospital to Seek Treatment for Clinical Depression

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chare said:

Good for him for seeking treatment and normalizing that we should do the same if the need arises.

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chare said:

I went back and reread the article @toomuchbaloney posted, as well as the 2 that I found, and none of them mentioned anything about Mr. Thomas threatening to shoot anyone.  Other than the headline of one of the articles I found mentioning that Mr. Thomas "pulled" his weapon, the contents of all three state that he "displayed" it, which could describe a wide range of actions or behavior.

And, I've searched at least twice for additional information, and have been unable to find any updates.  If you have a source for your claim that he threatened to shoot the utility workers, perhaps you'd be so kind to provide the source.

Both articles indicate that he showed a gun and demanded that the workers leave.  That is a threat, especially when the perpetrator has a gun in his hand.  The police thought it was an arrest able offense.  Who am I to question them with the "fact" on hand as reported in the story.  If you parked your car in front if someone's house and the owner sitting on his front porch stood up and showed you a gun,  would you not question the appropriateness of the response.  He exhibited a crazy behavior using a gun. I don't want him living next door to me!

nursej22 said:

Good for him for seeking treatment and normalizing that we should do the same if the need arises.

He's probably aware of the association of depression with brain injuries.  Good for him for doing the right thing.

subee said:

Both articles indicate that he showed a gun and demanded that the workers leave. ...

Both articles stated that he "displayed" a weapon.  This could range from aiming it at someone to wearing it on his hip, in a holster 

subee said:

... That is a threat, especially when the perpetrator has a gun in his hand. ...

If you have read something stating he actually had his weapon in hand, please provide a source.

subee said:

... If you parked your car in front if someone's house and the owner sitting on his front porch stood up and showed you a gun,  would you not question the appropriateness of the response. ...

Again, if you have a source detailing what "displayed" means, please post it.  

subee said:

... He exhibited a crazy behavior using a gun. I don't want him living next door to me!

What "crazy behavior" other then "displaying" a weapon is he guilty of?

And, I'm stilling waiting on a source for your claim that Mr. Thomas was going to shoot the utility workers.

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I'm not going to second guess the people who dealt directly with the armed man.  Apparently workers and the police believed the fellow represented a threat and he was arrested.

If you don't think that the description of the events is suggestive of unstable behavior, fine.  I do.  I think that the fact that the Michigan man felt that he needed to be visibly armed to demand that the public workers leave his property is not reflective of polite or stable social behavior.  I think it sends the message that violence is a considered possibility for the property owner.  I think that his demands while armed are aggressive and suggest that further escalation might be forthcoming. As a gun owner, he's demonstrating questionable judgement.  

You don't agree.  OK.  

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