I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
Yes, more information would be welcome. It seems unlikely that he would have been arrested and charged with assault had he simply revealed the weapon but police surprise me all of the time. I do think that it's unstable to "display" a weapon and demand that utility workers leave your property when they are simply doing their jobs.
IMHO, anyone who did a semester of a psych rotation knows paranoid, dangerous people when they see one. In what universe it OK for anyone to "display" a gun to a municipal worker?
Gun violence is a public health epidemic and should be treated accordingly. While mass shootings are horrific and capture the attention of the media, they are only part of the gun-violence picture—more than half of all suicides are firearm-related,10 and firearms are used in more than 50% of female homicides.3,11
Similarly to females, firearm-related deaths are a particular threat to children in the U.S. They are the third-leading cause of death in children overall,1 and the U.S. accounts for more than 90% of all firearm deaths among children in developed, high-income nations.12
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Similarly, almost all other leading causes of death, whether accident or disease, receive substantially more funding for research than gun violence.16 One study found that, "in relation to mortality, gun violence research was the least-researched cause of death and the second-least funded cause of death after falls.”16 When a similar approach to research on motor vehicle accidents is suggested for gun violence, it is often considered political, instead of an evidence-based, data-driven approach to prevent morbidity and mortality.
It seems to me that the alarming gun violence and death statistics are AMERICAN.
IMHO, anyone who did a semester of a psych rotation knows paranoid, dangerous people when they see one. ...
I was only able to find two articles in addition to the one that @toomuchbaloney posted. Aside from the headline of one, neither of these articles describe any action other than the fact that Mr. Thomas did anything other than displayed his weapon. Until further evidence is provided, don't you think this description is something of a stretch?
This "brandishing" vs "displaying" vs "threatening" strikes me as a distinction with no difference. The presence of the firearm in the hands of the homeowner is the threat, in my opinion.
The police think so, too. In any street enforcement situation, the sight of a gun in anyone's hand - or even the suspicion of a gun on the person - results in a deliberately overwhelming response regardless of what the person is actually doing with the gun.
This "brandishing" vs "displaying" vs "threatening" strikes me as a distinction with no difference. The presence of the firearm in the hands of the homeowner is the threat, in my opinion.
The police think so, too. In any street enforcement situation, the sight of a gun in anyone's hand - or even the suspicion of a gun on the person - results in a deliberately overwhelming response regardless of what the person is actually doing with the gun.
What response should a police officer have when someone has a gun in their hand? Not in a holster but in their hand?
In the presence of police, if someone has a gun in their hand, what do you think they are doing?
And what do you suggest a police officer do or think when someone has a gun in their hand?
If an officer has a reasonable suspicion that a person has used a gun in a crime,and they disobey lawful commands and can't keep their hands out of their pockets or away from their waistline? What should they do?
What response should a police officer have when someone has a gun in their hand? Not in a holster but in their hand?
In the presence of police, if someone has a gun in their hand, what do you think they are doing?
And what do you suggest a police officer do or think when someone has a gun in their hand?
If an officer has a reasonable suspicion that a person has used a gun in a crime,and they disobey lawful commands and can't keep their hands out of their pockets or away from their waistline? What should they do?
They should shoot that person because if you brandish, display etc a gun to police it is reasonable for them believe that they are not just pulling it out to show them.
They should shoot that person because if you brandish, display etc a gun to police it is reasonable for them believe that they are not just pulling it out to show them.
Why would an unarmed civilian, going along on their civilian business, not make the same assumption?
Why would an unarmed civilian, going along on their civilian business, not make the same assumption?
Assumption in regards to who?
The working men in the article?
They did assume or at least expected there was a possibility he could use the gun and called the police.
Now what would a police officer responding to that call(person displaying a gun) do/think if he went to arrest this guy who was then acting erratic and had a gun in his hand, displaying it to the police officer?
I can speculate that this man did not brandish his weapon to the police when they arrested him and that's why he is alive.
The workers had every right to to be alarmed and phone the police. The man should be charged and he was.
In and around East Palestine, near the Pennsylvania state line, residents said they wanted assistance navigating the financial help the railroad offered hundreds of families who evacuated, and they want to know whether it will be held responsible for what happened.
Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost advised Norfolk Southern on Wednesday that his office is considering legal action against the rail operator.
"The pollution, which continues to contaminate the area around East Palestine, created a nuisance, damage to natural resources and caused environmental harm," Yost said in a letter to the company.
The state's Environmental Protection Agency said Wednesday that the latest tests show water from five wells supplying the village's drinking water are free from contaminants. But the EPA also is recommending testing for private water wells because they are closer to the surface.
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The Ohio Department of Natural Resources estimates the spill affected more than seven miles (11.2 kilometers) of streams and killed some 3,500 fish, mostly small ones such as minnows and darters.
There hadn't been any confirmed deaths of other wildlife, including livestock, state officials said.
Norfolk Southern announced Tuesday that it is creating a $1 million fund to help the community of some 4,700 people while continuing remediation work, including removing spilled contaminants from the ground and streams and monitoring air quality.
It also will expand how many residents can be reimbursed for their evacuation costs, covering the entire village and surrounding area.
What a mess. Do you think $1 million will cover the costs of the evacuation?
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Displaying and/or brandishing a gun is alarming.
I find the amounts of gun violence where someone who is shot more alarming.
58 victims have been killed in Chicago in 2023.
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