I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
This is your evidence? The Spectator article - pure opinion. The City News - no evidence. The teacher from Minnesota presented nothing except what comes out of her mouth. If teachers were "told" to use all the language she is stating, why doesn't she have anything in writing? Fox News II - nothing new. The Heritage.org article - generalized mud slinging. All these teachers and students have phones and yet, not one recording was presented by any of these far right sources you mention. There's a lot of teachers in this country and we can expect the normal percentage of miscreants and the curriculum committee can deal with them...if the parents want that. Yoga was banned in my gym class in high school because it was considered part of a non-Christian way of life according to some parents and my school went along with appeasing them! School boards bend over backwards to accomodate parents (generally) so I don't think CRT is anything for us to get our panties in a wad.
Same old tired trope about sources. You can't possibly believe the school boards (in general) are bending over backwards to accommodate parents, wow just wow. How many parents have had their mic cut off or literally dragged out JUST because the members didn't want to hear them. Some even tried to read from school books that the parents deemed too sexually inappropriate and they had to cut their mics because there were "children present". They either didn't see the irony or just didn't care.
The DOJ was not targeting parents who complained about curriculum. They were instructed to investigate threats of physical harm and death. A crime that crosses state lines is often investigated by the DOJ.
My daughter and her fellow school board members have received death threats. One, a business owner, had thousands of dollars of damage done to their store. Their story has been broadcast across the US via conservative media. Some of the death threats were traced to an out of state source. Is this acceptable to you?
Do you think that death threats and crimes are only committed against left lean people by right leaning people?
It's it standard issue for the DOJ to get involved with threats of physical harm or death? Please proved a source that demonstrated the DOJ gets involved with death threats as a common occurrence.
The DOJ did not come out officially and say parents were terrorist but they, as well as the WH acted on a letter from National School Board requesting help throught the Patriot Act. The letter clarified they were not referring to usual terrorist groups such as the Taliban but "here at home" , in direct references to parents.
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One of the letter's requests involved using the controversial post-Sept. 11 bill the PATRIOT Act to prosecute parents accused of violence against school boards. Slaven clarified a draft of the letter so it was certain he was asking for the act to be used on threats he saw domestically. In his interview with the NSBA investigators, Slaven "expressed that he edited the letter to clarify that the request to utilize the PATRIOT Act was not with regard to al Qaeda or foreign adversaries, but with regard to the fact that 'we were concerned over folks here in this country.’"
The contents of the letter and the DOH memo was egregious enough that several entities denounced the letter and removed themselves from the association. Even the National School Board came out with a statement,
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State school board associations also condemned the NSBA's letter, and multiple states removed themselves from the national organization.
The DOJ and the WH most certainly agreed with the contents of the letter comparing parents to terrorist initially until they were forced to retract the letter.
Before you attact Fox News, I wasn't able to find much info detailing the contents of the letter from left leaning MSM.
Biden continues his habitual lying this time trying to deflect from his incompetence by accusing Trump. Does this lying with Biden and his admin ever stop.
So you do not have any evidence then. Only a plethora of deflection.
Thu-ank-yoooou!
So ... I "need" evidence but you don't?
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I can't speak for @Roitrn, but no, I think both aides need to provide "evidence," or otherwise source their claims. And, I have said that for some time, only to be told by one side or the other that they were stating fact, and as such it wasn't necessary.
I can't speak for @Roitrn, but no, I think both aides need to provide "evidence," or otherwise source their claims. And, I have said that for some time, only to be told by one side or the other that they were stating fact, and as such it wasn't necessary.
Agreed - and my opinion is that the supposed depredations of teaching about racism, history and differences in identity have not been documented except as poorly thought out attempts by poorly educated teachers to address those issues.
Meanwhile ... do a bunch of nurses really need a bibliography about the potential effects of negative stereotypes and the denial of their lived reality on children's emotional health and development? Really?
I can't speak for @Roitrn, but no, I think both aides need to provide "evidence," or otherwise source their claims. And, I have said that for some time, only to be told by one side or the other that they were stating fact, and as such it wasn't necessary.
I agree. I usually do provide evidence only to have the source shot down instead of disputing the content. Classic deflection. Or the source is completely ignored like when I sourced the content of the African History class that violated Florida law. It had several tenents of CRT and was going to be offered to high school students. I woukd imagine most sources are not even read.
Or personal attacks like "victim blaming". Nastiness like suggesting I would blame a rape victim.
Agreed - and my opinion is that the supposed depredations of teaching about racism, history and differences in identity have not been documented except as poorly thought out attempts by poorly educated teachers to address those issues.
Meanwhile ... do a bunch of nurses really need a bibliography about the potential effects of negative stereotypes and the denial of their lived reality on children's emotional health and development? Really?
Fair enough. My point was do we really believe this African History class with many tenents of CRT that was amended because it violated Flordia law is the only course of it's type to ever be proposed?
If it would have been delivered if it wasn't noticed. Is it not reasonable to wonder how many of these type classes are delivered when there is no objection? The balance of probability is that there is classes like this being presented to k to 12.
Fair enough. My point was do we really believe this African History class with many tenents of CRT that was amended because it violated Flordia law is the only course of it's type to ever be proposed?
If it would have been delivered if it wasn't noticed. Is it not reasonable to wonder how many of these type classes are delivered when there is no objection? The balance of probability is that there is classes like this being presented to k to 12.
What is CRT and why is it bad in an advanced placement high school class?
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Daisy4RN said:
There is plenty of evidence but as I have said before you just need to know how to find it. There are many articles that discuss it and along with that the fact that the DOJ was targeting parents (calling them terrorists!) who were complaining about the fact that they didn't like their kids being subjected to this nonsense should also tell you that it is in fact true. You can deny it till the cows come home but kids K-12 are being taught CRT (and as pointed out earlier just not the college version) and IMO it is very harmful bc it is not merely the history but creates victims and oppressors in the present day.
I know that you can find this stuff in right wing and fringe media. That explains why you have a problem with the FBI taking a hard look at parents who make clear and credible threats of violence because they are triggered.
No, kids in K-12 aren't being taught "CRT" that's just what your preferred media is telling you.
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Roitrn said:
Do you have any evidence of this lack of emotional well-being for "non-European, gay/trans/non-binary and non-Christian kids, beyond your own diluted feelings?
Reuters documented the intimidation through contacts and interviews with 33 board members across 15 states and a review of threatening and harassing messages obtained from the officials or through public records requests. The news organization found more than 220 such messages in this sampling of districts. School officials or parents in 15 different counties received or witnessed threats they considered serious enough to report to police.
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While school controversies are traditionally local, these threats often come from people out of state with no connection to the districts involved. They are part of a rising national wave of threats to public officials – including election officials and members of Congress – citing an array of grievances, often underpinned by apocalyptic conspiracy theories alleging "treason" or "tyranny.”
This is why the DOJ needs to get involved, because these threats cross state lines.
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Same old tired trope about sources. You can't possibly believe the school boards (in general) are bending over backwards to accommodate parents, wow just wow. How many parents have had their mic cut off or literally dragged out JUST because the members didn't want to hear them. Some even tried to read from school books that the parents deemed too sexually inappropriate and they had to cut their mics because there were "children present". They either didn't see the irony or just didn't care.