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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news. I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.
https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6
QuoteAccording to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.
Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.
The arrested the guy the next day.
What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there.
Roitrn said:
Or personal attacks like "victim blaming". Nastiness like suggesting I would blame a rape victim.
And yet, you still don't suggest that the police should take any steps to prevent officers from beating and killing persons of color. They just can't help themselves when disrespected. Got it.
Daisy4RN said:Same old tired trope about sources. You can't possibly believe the school boards (in general) are bending over backwards to accommodate parents, wow just wow. How many parents have had their mic cut off or literally dragged out JUST because the members didn't want to hear them. Some even tried to read from school books that the parents deemed too sexually inappropriate and they had to cut their mics because there were "children present". They either didn't see the irony or just didn't care.
You missed the discussion of the actual content (opinion, no evidence, etc)?
Parents who threatened people with violence were contacted by the FBI. Why does that upset you?
toomuchbaloney said:I know that you can find this stuff in right wing and fringe media. That explains why you have a problem with the FBI taking a hard look at parents who make clear and credible threats of violence because they are triggered.
No, kids in K-12 aren't being taught "CRT" that's just what your preferred media is telling you.
Because left leaning MSM purposely under reports topics like these. It's very hard to find anything in left MSM about controversial topics that goes against the poular narrative. Right media does the same. So as it be, you only know what your preferred media tells you.
It might be useful to find a way to gather information that is truly not bias. Instead of defaming the sources.
Roitrn said:Because left leaning MSM purposely under reports topics like these. It's very hard to find anything in left MSM about controversial topics that goes against the poular narrative. Right media does the same. So as it be, you only know what your preferred media tells you.
It might be useful to find a way to gather information that is truly not bias. Instead of defaming the sources.
Ohhh... so in your opinion it's not reported appropriately in "left leaning MSM"... I have subscriptions to NYT and WaPo... are those left leaning? Are they generally considered accurate or reliable in presenting facts? What about the AP or Reuters... why do you think they "under reported" right wing concerns about CRT? The biggest thing to report about CRT is the anger and agitation that the topic inspires among consumers of right wing social and digital media.
All media has bias. Not all media is accurate, reliable or interested in actual journalism.
Roitrn said:This is a great question. There seems to be confusion over CRT the actual University course and CRT ideas. It might be useful to state what definition of CRT is being referred.
The people inflamed by CRT should be responsible to provide their definition... since we wouldn't be having these discussions if they weren't upset and threatening people.
We've seen before that many of these right wing concerns are often based in misrepresentations and manipulative messaging. Would you agree that these ongoing culture wars that keep Americans agitated are dangerous?
nursej22 said:And yet, you still don't suggest that the police should take any steps to prevent officers from beating and killing persons of color. They just can't help themselves when disrespected. Got it.
No. Again, misrepresenting my words. There is several steps the police can make. Such as taking reports about misconduct more seriously. Analyzing data and finding patterns of behaviors of a individual police officer or the units. Holding police more accountable for misconduct. Increasing the entry standards to become a police officer. Routine psychological assessments and counseling. This requires more money. Many pol8ce funds have been reduced.
I'm not talking about disrespect. I'm talking about, verbal physical aggression, running, grabbing for guns or tazors, common sense things.
Smaller things include listening to instructions, keeping your hands visible, don't get out of the car without permission. (I got out of the car one time when a police officer was checking my license to tell him something. I had no idea that this could seen as a threat as I could have easily had a weapon and was coming to shoot him. Until he flipped out on me and told me why to not get out of the car).
There are violent criminal police. We know they exist and there is no way for a citizen or even to distinguish between good or bad. That being said, why would providing education on how to interact with police to lessen the chance of being assaulted and even killed is a bad thing? It increases the chances of not being a victim. This is not victim blaming.
Any police officer is fully accountable for the crimes they have committed. It is their fault period. It us not on the victim. I'm not sure how else to say it.
I'm interested in saving lives not virtue signaling.
toomuchbaloney said:Ohhh... so in your opinion it's not reported appropriately in "left leaning MSM"... I have subscriptions to NYT and WaPo... are those left leaning? Are they generally considered accurate or reliable in presenting facts? What about the AP or Reuters... why do you think they "under reported" right wing concerns about CRT? The biggest thing to report about CRT is the anger and agitation that the topic inspires among consumers of right wing social and digital media.
All media has bias. Not all media is accurate, reliable or interested in actual journalism.
I find it harder to find info or there is less from left learning sources that do not align with the left narrative with some topics. I find the same from right learning.
So we agree, all media has bias. So do you have a suggestion on how we can overcome this?
States and local communities are the government entities determining what the majority of police funding includes.
I think it's time for some national standards for policing rather than leaving it all up to the local governments.
toomuchbaloney said:The people inflamed by CRT should be responsible to provide their definition... since we wouldn't be having these discussions if they weren't upset and threatening people.
We've seen before that many of these right wing concerns are often based in misrepresentations and manipulative messaging. Would you agree that these ongoing culture wars that keep Americans agitated are dangerous?
Did I come across as "inflamed"? Not at all. It's hard to tell with the written word about someone's emotional state due to the lack of body language interpretation. It is actually impossible. So if you interpreted my posts as inflamed, then going forward, I am not inflamed or otherwise emotionally agitated in any way.
Yes. I do think that radical ideas could be dangerous.
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Hhhmmm.... you seem to have missed the important detail of the threats of violence which precipitated the FBI interest. That's odd. I know that you are an advocate for personal responsibility and accountability. It's illegal to threaten other people because of your beliefs... everyone knows that.