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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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HiddenAngels said:

I'm glad it worked out for YOU.  Unfortunately, it doesn't work out peaceful for others and they are not acting as you say erractic, resisting or being combative.  They're just being.

Please provide me a case where a person acted respectfully, listened to instructions, did not attack and or threatened police verbally or physically and they suffered unwarranted force by the police. 

There is cases like that of course but they are rare and do not compare to the 1000s of encounters that do not result in abuse by the police. 

Even so, if you act civilized and respectfully, you have a higher chance of an encounter without incident. Besides, if one is so worried and scared of the police, why would they act anything but calm and cooperative? 

The left wing media has done a great job of making people fear the police. However I do not believe people are really that fearful. It's like they are LARPs that peddle the political agenda. 

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HiddenAngels said:

And that's what so bothering.  Netshark on here acting like if you do what I say then there will be only a fractional percentage of people harmed and then you can peacefully go to court and hopefully win.  Yea Okay..

Racial profiling, excessive force, planting evidence, provoking citizens, raping women.  These things do happen by the Police.  Now, I'm not saying all Police no way, however, stop acting like if you "yes sir" everything is going to be fine, because that is not always the case.  It should bother you and unsettle your soul when you ask black male friends what their biggest fear is and they say being stopped by the police.  That's crazy!!

 

Well acting "yes sir" will give you a better chance than acting irrational and aggressive. You surely reconize at least that? And not committing crime almost always will prevent police encounters. 

It does hurt my soul because far left radicals have done a great job at demonizing the police. Especially POC.it begs the question, if they/we are so afraid, then why would you act anything but compliant? 

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nursej22 said:

Breonna Taylor wasn't even given a chance to cooperate; she was shot in her bed. 

Research how much police departments pay out in wrongful suits. Enter "black motorist shot" in any search engine and look at the hits. 

Yes, a relatively small number of police use excessive force, but it still too many, and very few suffer any repercussions. Even if they are fired, they are quickly hired by another jurisdiction. More people die from overzealous cops than teens getting called by their preferred pronouns. 

Do you acknowledge that the wrongful death suits are settled out of court? That's because no police department want to have a whole lot of false claims made about them. It doesn't matter if it's true or not, people will chose to believe it. It's easier to pay out. It rarely goes to trial. 

And, if the truth is they really did use excessive force, then they should pay. So that point is mute because it demonstrates accountability is being taken when police use excessive force. 

subee said:

Nick Fuentes.  Every heard of him?  He and Kanye both had dinner with Donald in Fla.

Did they roam around freely looking for secret documents? Is Kanye the "white nationalist"? 

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Suspected National Archives may issue this request to get all classified government files back in secure hands.  Appears to be a  PROCESS issue: thought there was a registry of government documents created with sign-in/sign out. Who's responsible for checking that documents are all returned???

Archives weighs asking past presidents, VPs to look for classified items

 

 

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Netshark said:

Mean while.....  This apparently didn't get anyone's attention... 

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/live-updates/monterey-park-lunar-new-year-mass-shooting-11-victims-identified-latest-details/

I wonder why? 

Well I think we all know why, because it doesn't fit the narrative the Dems and  the media want. Although the Dems did come out when it first happened and blamed Republicans and called the attack racist. But then oops they found out the shooter was Asian, how embarrassing for them, but then again they probably don't care. 
 

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/22/democrats-blamed-bigotry-monterey-park-california-/

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/01/the_democrat_race_baiters_were_all_over_the_tragedy_in_monterey_park.html
 

"Americans woke to a terrible story this morning: There was a mass shooting at a Chinese Lunar New Year celebration in Monterey Park, California, near Los Angeles, that killed ten people and injured another ten, all Asian. For many hours, that was all we knew. However, that information vacuum didn't stop leftist race-baiters from building up their rage against "racists" (meaning, of course, those who are not Democrats). As it turned out, they were completely wrong about the killing. There are no apologies, of course. Instead, you know that they'll simply double down on attacking the Second Amendment"


 But then again Adam Schiff (and probably others) are already known liars who got away with it so they probably feel like they got nothing to lose. If you recall Schiff lied for 2 years about seeing evidence of Trump collision with Russia  that for some reason never surfaced. 

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NRSKarenRN said:

Suspected National Archives may issue this request to get all classified government files back in secure hands.  Appears to be a  PROCESS issue: thought there was a registry of government documents created with sign-in/sign out. Who's responsible for checking that documents are all returned???

Archives weighs asking past presidents, VPs to look for classified items

 

 

I can't read your article but it is obvious that something needs to be done. It is hard to believe that people are leaving classified documents everywhere which puts our Country at risk for all of us.

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chare said:

Exactly how many innocent people are assaulted or killed by rogue police?

Good question. Who do you think would track stats like that? I doubt any law enforcement organization would. And if a person assaulted by police has no advocate, or irrefutable proof, who is going to believe them? 
According to an article in the Washington Post published March 2022, taxpayers are responsible for $3.2billion in settlements for police misconduct in the last 10 years. This involved more than 10000 law enforcement officers, some with multiple complaints. This seems like more than a few rogue cops. And these are only ones reported and settled. I am having trouble linking the article because I am on my phone. This info is easily found with a simple search. 
I firmly believe police should be required to have a license, much like nurses, and be overseen by a state board. 

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nursej22 said:

Good question. Who do you think would track stats like that? I doubt any law enforcement organization would. And if a person assaulted by police has no advocate, or irrefutable proof, who is going to believe them? 
According to an article in the Washington Post published March 2022, taxpayers are responsible for $3.2billion in settlements for police misconduct in the last 10 years. This involved more than 10000 law enforcement officers, some with multiple complaints. This seems like more than a few rogue cops. And these are only ones reported and settled. I am having trouble linking the article because I am on my phone. This info is easily found with a simple search. 
I firmly believe police should be required to have a license, much like nurses, and be overseen by a state board. 

I can agree with your last statment. 

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Daisy4RN said:

Well I think we all know why, because it doesn't fit the narrative the Dems and  the media want. Although the Dems did come out when it first happened and blamed Republicans and called the attack racist. But then oops they found out the shooter was Asian, how embarrassing for them, but then again they probably don't care. 
 

And no conservatives remarked on this incident until now because they are just fine with people exercising their second amendment rights with semi-automatic, high capacity weapons. 

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chare said:

Exactly how many innocent people are assaulted or killed by rogue police?

t for the "Rotten Barrel" theory of police deviant behavior, which holds that the stressful conditions of the police occupation constitute a primary risk factor for police misconduct.

Abstract

In contrast to the "Rotten Barrel" theory, the traditional "Rotten Apple" theory has argued that deviant police officers brought their undesirable traits into the policing profession when they were hired; under this theory, the solution to police misconduct is to improve the psychological screening of police officers so that the "rotten apples" are excluded from the "barrel." This article focuses on the sociopathic, or antisocial, personality manifest in many police officers. Attention is given to environmental stresses that increase the likelihood of criminal behavior within police departments and the influence of the police subculture on new recruits. There are two types of sociopaths, primary and secondary. Primary sociopaths are predisposed to antisocial behavior through their genotype. Secondary sociopaths are those who become antisocial because of environmental factors. External factors such as police subcultural norms, peer influence, and economic factors may lead some officers to believe that antisocial or deviant behavior is the most appropriate and most beneficial approach to their role as a police officer. The environment in which police officers work offers unlimited opportunities for corruption and deceit, and these environmental factors may lead to sociopathic behavior. Early intervention is crucial for officers who show signs of stress, anxiety, depression, or any other negative behavior. Periodic, ongoing psychological testing of officers, stress management training, and the existence of alternative intervention measures can assist in preventing the stresses of policing from leading to serious police misconduct. 28 references

Police come up regularly on the list of occupations that either 1.  attract sociopaths or 2. normalize sociopaths.  What are you asking when you use the term "innocent" victims?  

chare said:

Exactly how many innocent people are assaulted or killed by rogue police?

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Journal of Police and Criminal Psychology Volume: 14 Issue: 1 Dated: Spring 1999 Pages: 28-3

This paper provides support for the "Rotten Barrel" theory of police deviant behavior, which holds that the stressful conditions of the police occupation constitute a primary risk factor for police misconduct.

Abstract

In contrast to the "Rotten Barrel" theory, the traditional "Rotten Apple" theory has argued that deviant police officers brought their undesirable traits into the policing profession when they were hired; under this theory, the solution to police misconduct is to improve the psychological screening of police officers so that the "rotten apples" are excluded from the "barrel." This article focuses on the sociopathic, or antisocial, personality manifest in many police officers. Attention is given to environmental stresses that increase the likelihood of criminal behavior within police departments and the influence of the police subculture on new recruits. There are two types of sociopaths, primary and secondary. Primary sociopaths are predisposed to antisocial behavior through their genotype. Secondary sociopaths are those who become antisocial because of environmental factors. External factors such as police subcultural norms, peer influence, and economic factors may lead some officers to believe that antisocial or deviant behavior is the most appropriate and most beneficial approach to their role as a police officer. The environment in which police officers work offers unlimited opportunities for corruption and deceit, and these environmental factors may lead to sociopathic behavior. Early intervention is crucial for officers who show signs of stress, anxiety, depression, or any other negative behavior. Periodic, ongoing psychological testing of officers, stress management training, and the existence of alternative intervention measures can assist in preventing the stresses of policing from leading to serious police misconduct.   End of quote.  

How many "innocent" people are killed a year by police?  What are you calling innocent?  Eric Gardner was selling loosy cigarettes and was choked to death by police.  He was innocent of violent crime. George Floyd was innocent of inflicting violence and yet he was slowly suffocated in front of witnesses.  When the police shoot a violent offender, I just call that culling and don't take offense.  No government entity actually keeps track of unjustified shootings and that's a problem.  But anyone alive who reads the news knows that these unjustified killings happen on a regular basis and those are just the ones we KNOW about.  We can't even be shocked anymore that a police is trying to justify shooting people in the back.  Their victims may have been committing some mischief but weren't carrying weapons.  This is a particularly unique country in the free world.  

On a personal note, a patient's husband threatened to shoot me (in the OR holding area filled with witnesses) as we were wheeling her into the OR.  I reported it to the city police because it was around Christmas and I didn't want to think of him roaming around in a mall with a gun.  The officer met me in security at the end of my shift and when I gave him the few details of the person, the officer said "It sounds like a police dispatcher that I know."  So the department knew they had a loose cannon but allowed him to carry a weapon.  When I got the same threat by a "made" guy while his wife was getting an epidural............no, I didn't say anything to anyone:)

nursej22 said:


I firmly believe police should be required to have a license, much like nurses, and be overseen by a state board. 

I agree.

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