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I came across this is little story today, it's not breaking news.  I suspect that a member of the housekeeping staff knows something about the bomb threat that required the sweep for weapons.

https://apnews.com/article/new-jersey-newark-bomb-threats-d0a59b80d460f9354f6bfe86f65475c6

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According to police in Secaucus, the bomb threat — which later was determined to be bogus — was called in to Hudson Regional Hospital on July 18. During a search, bomb detection dogs led investigators to an unlocked office closet containing dozens of firearms.

Among the weapons were 11 handguns and 27 rifles or shotguns, according to police. The closet also contained a .45 caliber semi-automatic rifle with a high-capacity magazine that was determined to be an assault rifle, and a 14-round high-capacity handgun magazine.

The arrested the guy the next day. 

What the heck do you think this guy was doing? It sounds very ominous that he was keeping those weapons there. 

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HiddenAngels said:

This is a lie. This is BS. I don't know where you live or if you have any friends but this is not true and you should stop saying it is.  It just isn't.☹️

It's a lie that cooperating with police instead of acting hostile and uncivil will not prevent police from using deadly force?  Are you suggesting that doing this will not matter and police will shoot you or use deadly force anyway? Even if you are calm respectful and not aggressive? I think that is where the lie is. 

What you belive is not true. And arguably dangerous. 

It's a fact that by being calm and cooperative with police will most likely result in no to harm to one's self. It's also a fact acting irratic, aggressive and hostile increases the chance of force by police. And if you pull a gun or pull out a weapon, it is reasonable to expect that they will use deadly force. Which most likely will cause you to die.

This is another good resource. 

https://attorney911.com/how-to-act-when-stopped-by-police/

You have provided no evidence to suggest otherwise. There are some cases but they are the very small minority compared to how many police interaction occur without incident. 

Netshark said:

I'm sorry saving lives and reducing violent interactions by the police is "not worth it". I think saving lives is worth it. 

Did you get video of these surrenders? Were there police complaints made? Antidotes are fine I suppose. Let me tell you I'm a POC. I keep my tags and license up to date. My car is in safe running condition. The times I've been pulled over it's because I was speeding. Another time I felt the stop was unwarranted. I kept my hands visible, answered questions and respectfully disagreed with the officer. He asked me out of the car because he was an arrogant jerk. I did as he said. He gave me a ticket, I beat it in court and he was sent to retraining due to my complaint. Now how do you think would have gone down if I was acting erratically? Resisting and being combative? Or if I tried to assault him and grab at his gun?  Oh and I have been part of many protests. As soon as it turned violent or deemed unlawful by pol8ce, I left. Simple really. 

I will not sympathize and cater to the idea that police are just out to arrest people and be violent. Why? Because that type of false rhetoric gets people killed. Police and citizens of all races. If that's a rant then so be it. Be safe. 

I'm glad it worked out for YOU.  Unfortunately, it doesn't work out peaceful for others and they are not acting as you say erractic, resisting or being combative.  They're just being.

Netshark said:

Gun violence only matters when it fits the liberal profile. Black lives only matter when it fits their political agenda. They have no concern over the multitude of gun related deaths and mass shootings in places like Chicago because it's not Republicans committing these crimes. Or they can't push their gun control laws. In the meantime young black men die en mass. However apparently their lives don't matter. Being called racist by pointing it  out matters more. And we're the ones who are called hateful! 

Agree with some of this..

nursej22 said:

Another poster focused on gender/sexuality. Forget about innocent people assaulted or killed by rogue police, focus on sensational stories about gender identity. 
Anyone harmed by police had it coming, amirite?

And that's what so bothering.  Netshark on here acting like if you do what I say then there will be only a fractional percentage of people harmed and then you can peacefully go to court and hopefully win.  Yea Okay..

Racial profiling, excessive force, planting evidence, provoking citizens, raping women.  These things do happen by the Police.  Now, I'm not saying all Police no way, however, stop acting like if you "yes sir" everything is going to be fine, because that is not always the case.  It should bother you and unsettle your soul when you ask black male friends what their biggest fear is and they say being stopped by the police.  That's crazy!!

 

MaybeeRN said:

Of course police people profile.  They profile all kinds of people not just minorities.  But this fallacy you have of thousands of innocent people being locked up for nothing is pure fantasy.  You have the right to remain silent.  Use it.

Ask the cops in Minneapolis.

Back at ya! I did not say thousands of innocent people are being locked up, once again you are putting words into people's mouths.

 

Netshark said:

It's a lie that cooperating with police instead of acting hostile and uncivil will not prevent police from using deadly force?  Are you suggesting that doing this will not matter and police will shoot you or use deadly force anyway? Even if you are calm respectful and not aggressive? I think that is where the lie is. 

What you belive is not true. And arguably dangerous. 

It's a fact that by being calm and cooperative with police will most likely result in no to harm to one's self. It's also a fact acting irratic, aggressive and hostile increases the chance of force by police. And if you pull a gun or pull out a weapon, it is reasonable to expect that they will use deadly force. Which most likely will cause you to die.

This is another good resource. 

https://attorney911.com/how-to-act-when-stopped-by-police/

You have provided no evidence to suggest otherwise. There are some cases but they are the very small minority compared to how many police interaction occur without incident. 

I am not suggesting citizens should act aggressively, erratic or combative or anything of the sort with law enforcement, but if you have to put those words into my mouth to prove your point, Yawn, I'm so exhausted...

I will say this again, people DO cooperate and still in up in terrible situations with police. Period.

 

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Netshark said:

From the citation you referenced: 

"

"I know that national security professionals inside government, my former colleagues, [they] are shaking their heads at what damage might have been done,” John Brennan, former CIA director, told MSNBC." 

"I'm sure Mar-a-Lago was being targeted" 

It also goes on to say something about a Russian speaking person was at the resort. However there is no evidence that she is a "spy". 

This highly bias news story lacks in an evidence that there were "white nationals" and "foreign nationals" roaming the property and accessing secret government documents. It's a hyperinflated theory complete with hyperbole about how scary it would be...... 

Nick Fuentes.  Every heard of him?  He and Kanye both had dinner with Donald in Fla.

Specializes in CRNA, Finally retired.
HiddenAngels said:

Agree with some of this..

He obviously thinks that violent people (is he alluding to Black people in Chicago?) are Democrats.  Like they give one crap about politics.

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
Netshark said:

It's a lie that cooperating with police instead of acting hostile and uncivil will not prevent police from using deadly force?  Are you suggesting that doing this will not matter and police will shoot you or use deadly force anyway? Even if you are calm respectful and not aggressive? I think that is where the lie is. 

What you belive is not true. And arguably dangerous. 

It's a fact that by being calm and cooperative with police will most likely result in no to harm to one's self. It's also a fact acting irratic, aggressive and hostile increases the chance of force by police. And if you pull a gun or pull out a weapon, it is reasonable to expect that they will use deadly force. Which most likely will cause you to die.

This is another good resource. 

https://attorney911.com/how-to-act-when-stopped-by-police/

You have provided no evidence to suggest otherwise. There are some cases but they are the very small minority compared to how many police interaction occur without incident. 

Breonna Taylor wasn't even given a chance to cooperate; she was shot in her bed. 

Research how much police departments pay out in wrongful suits. Enter "black motorist shot" in any search engine and look at the hits. 

Yes, a relatively small number of police use excessive force, but it still too many, and very few suffer any repercussions. Even if they are fired, they are quickly hired by another jurisdiction. More people die from overzealous cops than teens getting called by their preferred pronouns. 

nursej22 said:

Another poster focused on gender/sexuality. Forget about innocent people assaulted or killed by rogue police, focus on sensational stories about gender identity. 
Anyone harmed by police had it coming, amirite?

Exactly how many innocent people are assaulted or killed by rogue police?

HiddenAngels said:
Netshark said:

No one unjustly assaulted by police have it coming.However many times there is things people can do that will significantly reduce or even eliminate the possibility of use of force from police. It's not fun and doesn't get likes on social media but being calm, polite and following instructions will most likely result in no use of force against you. Also not committing crime or associating yourself with criminals helps as well.

 

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This is a lie. This is BS. I don't know where you live or if you have any friends but this is not true and you should stop saying it is.  It just isn't.☹️

What exactly are you trying to say here?  

Specializes in Hospice.
nursej22 said:

 

And the times that police use excessive force, what are the consequences? Thanks to cell phones, we can see how often that happens. 

True. And we also see what doesn't. Thanks to cell phones and body cams, we have the opportunity to see what really happens. It's a two way street. 

Police have been charged and held accountable. Again, if the person acted differently,  more times than not, the interaction may have gone differently. Do you suppose people act disrespectful and aggressive with police because they expect and want the encounter to turn violent? So they can post the video and claim mistreatment and get social media attention? I do so theres a down side to recorded video as well. 

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