Video RN screaming, dragged into police car d/t refused blood draw on unconscious patient!

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July 31 2017, guy fleeing police crosses median and slams into truck and dies. The truck catches fire severely burning the innocent driver, Mr. Gray, who was taken to SLC University. Police later showed up demanding to the UNCONSCIOUS innocent patient's blood. RN Alex shows them the policy requiring consent, arrest, or a warrant. Hospital administration back up RN Alex.

Police aggressively arrest RN Alex and removes her from the hospital. Officer body cam insanity released today:

NEWSPAPER ARTICLE:

Video shows Utah nurse screaming, being dragged into police car after refusing to let officer take blood from unconscious victim - The Salt Lake Tribune

Long video body cam:

In this video, the aggressive officer can be heard saying that he will ensure all the "transients" are brought to this hospitals ED since they won't cooperate after being told the administrators and privacy officer are on their way.

Original Crash (graphic):

Interesting note about Alex, she was a 2x Olympian, US Ski Team member, and national champion is Slalom and GS.

I think we can all agree that the "don't resist arrest" point is very inapplicable to this situation. Just because the man technically has a badge and says the word "arrest" doesn't mean he is arresting. He lunged and grabbed her. He didn't read Miranda rights. He was already panicking and looking for a way out, to get the blood draw he knew was illegal. He was very obviously attacking her, not arresting, so someone should have intervened, period! What would it have taken for someone to intervene? The guy punching her? Whipping out his gun? Threatening others? Is he that untouchable? The other staff did not make a bad decision, but it wasn't the "best" decision. The fact is that man was dangerous. He had motive to really hurt someone as evidenced by the obvious cover up and we absolutely do not need to make a precedent of cops being able to stand behind our badge and hurt nurses or patients because they say can just say the word arrest if they want to they assault us. That's how people die.

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As disturbing as the video is to watch, it baffles me that a security guard just stood and watched. Security officers are also mandated with protecting rights of patients in addition to rights of fellow employees. Clearly two people's rights where endangered. Why is the RN the only one who stood up? And why did security do nothing but watch?

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What were the spectators doing while this unfolded? The arresting officer comes across as arrogant and belligerent. The other officers or security staff seem to just stand there. The nurse manager comes across as concerned, but impotent in this situation. The other staff in the facility appear to either be watching as this unfolds or busy with other tasks.

What if this were you? What if this were me? What would you have done? What do you think should have happened?

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After I moved past my emotional response (Which was anger), I am just bewildered by the whole incident. It is bizarre! Not to be funny, but I wonder about the officers mental health. Alcoholism? Early stages of dementia? Seriously! It is a question that begs to be asked!

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Exactly! Not just security, but what about the other officers who appear to be present. Why didn't they ask the arresting officer to back off? What were the other spectators doing?

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In all of your collective righteous indignation, has anyone bothered to think that maybe the law needs to change? Warrants shouldn't be required by the police to collect evidence. We're at war with terrorists, drug cartels and violent groups like Antifa. HIPPA and the laws this "nurse" were abusing are only aiding our enemies! This time it was a luckless driver, next time Wubbels might defend a member of ISIS or Antifa.

She should lose her job before any LEO does.

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I bet his career is over.

I doubt that. He will cough up an apology to Wubbels. She will foolishly, publicly, kindly accept and Det. Payne will take early retirement, keep his gun and badge.

What should happen is that he and Mike Brown (his boss), and the bosses above all be forced out of command because this type of behavior - criminal - can't exist without it being blessed from the top on down.

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In all of your collective righteous indignation, has anyone bothered to think that maybe the law needs to change? Warrants shouldn't be required by the police to collect evidence. We're at war with terrorists, drug cartels and violent groups like Antifa. HIPPA and the laws this "nurse" were abusing are only aiding our enemies! This time it was a luckless driver, next time Wubbels might defend a member of ISIS or Antifa.

She should lose her job before any LEO does.

Evidence against an INNOCENT victim?!!!! Have you lost your mind? Do you want to live in a police state?

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In all of your collective righteous indignation, has anyone bothered to think that maybe the law needs to change? Warrants shouldn't be required by the police to collect evidence. We're at war with terrorists, drug cartels and violent groups like Antifa. HIPPA and the laws this "nurse" were abusing are only aiding our enemies! This time it was a luckless driver, next time Wubbels might defend a member of ISIS or Antifa.

She should lose her job before any LEO does.

I have to say, I lol'd

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In all of your collective righteous indignation, has anyone bothered to think that maybe the law needs to change? Warrants shouldn't be required by the police to collect evidence. We're at war with terrorists, drug cartels and violent groups like Antifa. HIPPA and the laws this "nurse" were abusing are only aiding our enemies! This time it was a luckless driver, next time Wubbels might defend a member of ISIS or Antifa.

She should lose her job before any LEO does.

Are you serious? Advocating for the US becoming a police state?? The fact that you mention we are "at war" with groups like Antifa without mentioning any of the violent right-wing terrorist organizations tells me everything I need to know about where you're coming from. No, thanks, we're not really in the market for an authoritarian dictatorship.

And what's with the quotation marks around "nurse" -- are you suggesting that perhaps Ms. Wubbels isn't legitimately an RN? It's easy enough to verify that online, if you have doubts. I certainly hope that she would defend the legal and civil rights of a member of ISIS or Antifa as vigorously as she protected the innocent victim involved in this situation. It is respect for and protection of everyone's civil rights that has made this a great country, and one that so many of us are happy and proud to call "home." I'm sure you would be singing a different tune if it were your rights being violated and you being illegally assaulted by a police officer while unconscious.

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I doubt that. He will cough up an apology to Wubbels. She will foolishly, publicly, kindly accept and Det. Payne will take early retirement, keep his gun and badge.

What should happen is that he and Mike Brown (his boss), and the bosses above all be forced out of command because this type of behavior - criminal - can't exist without it being blessed from the top on down.

I doubt his career projectile is going anywhere but into flames.

I don't see it playing out into that easy of a HEA.

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In all of your collective righteous indignation, has anyone bothered to think that maybe the law needs to change? Warrants shouldn't be required by the police to collect evidence. We're at war with terrorists, drug cartels and violent groups like Antifa. HIPPA and the laws this "nurse" were abusing are only aiding our enemies! This time it was a luckless driver, next time Wubbels might defend a member of ISIS or Antifa.

She should lose her job before any LEO does.

The law in question here is the US Constitution, specifically the 4th amendment. And no, I don't think the best way to protect us from enemies of the Constitution is to preemptively destroy it before they can.

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