UK Immigration / recession discussion

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The government here is very aware of what is going on with the world right now. Thank you.

But why in the world should the US be required to open their doors when the other does not hold true in reverse? An American nurse cannot go to the Philippines and get licensed, even if they attended school there. So why should the US have an open door policy because a government can't seem to do things correctly?

The UK as well as the rest of the EU all have hiring freezes in place and jobs must first go to their own citizens. That is what is happening now in the US as well as the fact that we have had a retrogression for more than two years already.

There is no country that has unlimited visas for nurses, never has been one either anyplace.

Comment all you like aboutt the US, but the Uk is a completely different ball game, we have an acute nurse shortage and most trusts in the Uk are still hiring and there is certainly no job freeze where i work and if there was it would have nothing to do with the world economy but because an individual trust has spent all there budget. The NHS here is funded by the government not privately. You can scare people all you want about the Us but you obviously have no clue about the UK let alone the rest of the EU nurses from other Eu countries are coming to the UK and leaving there own countries short
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Domestic is a professsional name maid in my opinion is quite disrespectful, in my experiance Brits myself included move abroad for a new experiance not for money and certainly not because of a lack of opportunities here. Where i live in Scotland there is desperate need for trained nurses. My ward is running very understaffed and we have alot of indian staff who are very good

In my experience as Filipino/British RGN with UK /US CITIZENSHIP and as a former international nurse recruiter in London / CGFNS educator/ passed and did all my RGN training in BERSKHIRE..... yes, irish/ brits moved to US FOR MONEY.....as i said this OF COURSE based on my experience....

we need to be respectful of one another ...please.....

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topscott....

Brits/Scots/English/Irish/ English words is equal entirely different from American wording....

American english

maid

British/uk english

domestic

Dont get too emotional.....

Pls read posts carefully before making conclusions....Take nice deep breath..Relax...

.I know the english frustration because my ex father in law is from Glasgow, Scotland and ive travelled to Scotland doing studies and work......on the SLEEPER TRAIN...BRITISH RAIL..from Reading....

Cheers......

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Domestic is a professsional name maid in my opinion is quite disrespectful, in my experiance Brits myself included move abroad for a new experiance not for money and certainly not because of a lack of opportunities here. Where i live in Scotland there is desperate need for trained nurses. My ward is running very understaffed and we have alot of indian staff who are very good

But when was the last time you had a new overseas nurse who did not already have a work permit, I expect the staff you are talking about have either been working in the UK for many years or have spouses here which gives them a spouse VISA to work.

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... yes, irish/ brits moved to US FOR MONEY....

LOLLLL :chuckle

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LOLLLL :chuckle

My fellow brit/irish RGNs came to US for

1. money

2. Looking for love

3. pizza

lol.....:redbeathe

Domestic is a professsional name maid in my opinion is quite disrespectful, in my experiance Brits myself included move abroad for a new experiance not for money and certainly not because of a lack of opportunities here. Where i live in Scotland there is desperate need for trained nurses. My ward is running very understaffed and we have alot of indian staff who are very good

Domestic is the word that is used for maids in the US, it is not disrespectful by any means.

It still does not matter that your facility is working short, the issue is that the government is not issuing visas if the person is not from the EU or without significant work experience. That is what every other poster has stated here. Sure, if a nurse has been in the country there for sometime, then they may get hired by your trust and be able to work, but if they are new grad, they are not going to get a visa; pure and simple.

I suggest that you take the time to do some reading on other terms or phrases that are used over here in the US. Does not matter who is good and who is not at this point, but the fact remains that one is not going to get a visa if they are not a specialist with quite a bit of experience and that is the point that we are all trying to make here.

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As a manager who is responsible for recruiting I have employed several overseas nurses on the last two recruitment drives. The assumption is that the UK are activley recruiting from overseas as most UK nurses have little idea of the sifting out of those nurses who need work permits.

The overseas nurses I have employed have either been in the UK for several years or have married someone with permanent residency. It is quite difficult for employers in the UK to recruit from overseas now as there have been changes in government policy and they need to apply for a license to do so.

As a side issue - I am hoping to move to the US but can say hand on heart it is not for the money (the pizza maybe). In fact I will be taking a pay drop to go, but see a better quality of life, warmer climate, but money is not the motivating factor.

Me too LJ, it's a cultural thing, I just want to live there. I'll take a caravan in the hills if necessary.

I'm also happy to get in the queue and wait quietly, it'll come around.

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Well for me I couldn't wait out the retrogression! My move to Canada has been the best thing I've done in years! I didn't even have to take a pay cut! Even though right now I'm only being paid as a new grad (portability not sorted out plus I only just passed the exam so not yet on RN pay) I'm still earning $4 (I was going to put 2 pounds but this Canadian keyboard doesn't have the pound sign)more per hour basic than I was as a senior staff nurse in the UK!! Once all that's sorted I'll be on approx $16 per hour more basic!

Cost of living is less than London too & the kids are soooooooo happy. The nursing is good & not as different as I thought it might be. Still crazy busy sometimes, still have some cruddy shifts but nothing like what I had in the UK!!! Have to say I'm working with great staff though, which is lucky, I know!

OK it is cold in winter but that has it's own charms I'm sure (OK I hope!) We've had three bouts of snow so far & the kids have had a blast. It sure looked pretty too. luckily I'm in Calgary & we get these warm winds (Chinooks) that blow through, & take the edge off things, on a reasonably regular basis.

I admire those who are sitting tight & waiting but with the kids getting older it was a now or never situation for us. We chose "now!"

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