TSA asks a 95 y/o women to remove brief

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Specializes in LTC.

Really ? What a shame ! :uhoh3:

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Academics.

A link please. :)

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I don't know what to think. The rest of my post is thinking out loud, possibly playing devil's advocate re: civil liberties, and hoping to get some thoughtful responses.

What causes these changes to TSA requirements? The only thing I can think of is intelligence about new methods that terrorists plan to use.

What if intelligence discovered that a new method was to plant devices on the children or elderly of terrorists, and then accompany them on the planes? Would that change our outrage?

Will we only accept private patdowns on 18-64 year olds as being legitimate? What makes violating certain age groups acceptable but not for other age groups?

Like I said, I'm just thinking out loud because I'm not sure what is right.

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Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

TSA must have seen this episode of Southpark.

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I don't know what to think. The rest of my post is thinking out loud, possibly playing devil's advocate re: civil liberties, and hoping to get some thoughtful responses.

What causes these changes to TSA requirements? The only thing I can think of is intelligence about new methods that terrorists plan to use.

What if intelligence discovered that a new method was to plant devices on the children or elderly of terrorists, and then accompany them on the planes? Would that change our outrage?

Will we only accept private patdowns on 18-64 year olds as being legitimate? What makes violating certain age groups acceptable but not for other age groups?

Like I said, I'm just thinking out loud because I'm not sure what is right.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."- Benjamin Franklin

I'm sorry this seems like unreasonable search to me, pat downs on children under twelve, really? If we are terrorized enough to give up our dignity and personal freedom then the terrorists don't even need bombs now do they? Ug this whole thing makes me sick, I keep hearing more of these stories, women's breasts exposed in public, breast CA surviors having to remove padding in public, SA surviors traumatized. It's time to say enough is enough.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother This article makes some great points about airport security.

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Specializes in ICU + Infection Prevention.

The enemy has no qualms about using women and children as suicide bombers (by force). However, our security theater is not effective. Its a violation of rights and a waste of time and money. If a bomber has reached the security line, security has failed. Put the TSA money into human intelligence.

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The enemy has no qualms about using women and children as suicide bombers (by force). However, our security theater is not effective. Its a violation of rights and a waste of time and money. If a bomber has reached the security line, security has failed. Put the TSA money into human intelligence.

This and profiling. Since the USSR quit paying, the IRA has quit playing.:rolleyes:

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Specializes in ER/ MEDICAL ICU / CCU/OB-GYN /CORRECTION.

TSA has denied that this occurred.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/06/27/florida.tsa.incident/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Specializes in LTC Rehab Med/Surg.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."- Benjamin Franklin

I'm sorry this seems like unreasonable search to me, pat downs on children under twelve, really? If we are terrorized enough to give up our dignity and personal freedom then the terrorists don't even need bombs now do they? Ug this whole thing makes me sick, I keep hearing more of these stories, women's breasts exposed in public, breast CA surviors having to remove padding in public, SA surviors traumatized. It's time to say enough is enough.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother This article makes some great points about airport security.

I like the way you think.

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Specializes in Trauma, Emergency.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."- Benjamin Franklin

I'm sorry this seems like unreasonable search to me, pat downs on children under twelve, really? If we are terrorized enough to give up our dignity and personal freedom then the terrorists don't even need bombs now do they? Ug this whole thing makes me sick, I keep hearing more of these stories, women's breasts exposed in public, breast CA surviors having to remove padding in public, SA surviors traumatized. It's time to say enough is enough.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother This article makes some great points about airport security.

When you think of your own grandma or your own young son being patted down, it does seem ridiculous. But if you look at the Vietnam War for instance, the Vietnamese communist soldiers would pose as villagers, strap explosives to babies, hand over the babies to American soldiers, and detonate the explosives. So consider that it might seem ridiculous to us to use a child or senior to carry out a terrorist plan, but to the extreme terrorist, the age and gender of the martyr might take a backseat to the importance of successfully executing an attack. I hate the idea of this happening to my own mother for instance, but I appreciate the great degree of care taken my most of the TSA; it makes me feel safer about flying over all...As long as the searches are done respectfully and carefully, I don't see a problem. I know that if I were a terrorist trying to get some weapon or explosive onto a flight, the first thing I would do is enlist senior citizens in my cause (and the older and more frail they are, the better!) because they are the last people anyone would suspect of carrying out a heinous crime.

.............................. just my :twocents:

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Read the CNN article, her depend was wet, they asked her daughter to change it, they even let them go to a restroom to change it. Typical media only reporting half the story and getting the public upset.

Like a previous poster said, we do not know what a terrorist will look like, they will use any age group to attack. We cannot make special rules for children or the elderly. If you don't want yourself, your grandma or your children searched, then don't fly. It is your choice.

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