Trump's DERP State

nursej22, MSN, RN · Jan 25

Beerman said:

Hmm, I'm not exactly sure of everything you're trying to say.

But, Trump had no authority over ICE until he was sworn in. So, if arrests were delayed, I'm not sure how he'd be to blame. But give it a go if you want.

Sarcasm Alert: Okay, 3 days after he was sworn in, he had hired the entire agency, trained them, tracked down suspects, in multiple cities, and set up the arrests. Trump is a master at devising events to put him in the best light possible.

What I am saying is that ICE likely knew about many of these individuals, their locations and illegal activities, but delayed arrests in order to make Trump look good.

You don't think there were any Trump loyalists in ICE prior to the inauguration? That seems highly unlikely.

@Crusades, yes, I read the article that @Beerman attached and I understand that criminals were arrested. Yes, that is a good thing.

Tweety, BSN, RN · Jan 25

nursej22 said:

.What I am saying is that ICE likely knew about many of these individuals, their locations and illegal activities, but delayed arrests in order to make Trump look good.

You don't think there were any Trump loyalists in ICE prior to the inauguration? That seems highly unlikely.

To me it seems unlikely what you are saying here. I think they made arrests and then found out who he was. But my mind doesn't immediately spin into conspiracy, But nowadays not much surprises me.

Beerman, BSN · Jan 26

nursej22 said:

Sarcasm Alert: Okay, 3 days after he was sworn in, he had hired the entire agency, trained them, tracked down suspects, in multiple cities, and set up the arrests. Trump is a master at devising events to put him in the best light possible.

What I am saying is that ICE likely knew about many of these individuals, their locations and illegal activities, but delayed arrests in order to make Trump look good.

You don't think there were any Trump loyalists in ICE prior to the inauguration? That seems highly unlikely.

@Crusades, yes, I read the article that @Beerman attached and I understand that criminals were arrested. Yes, that is a good thing.

LOL

Why were these people in our country in the first place? Why were some released from prison without ICE being notified?

So that Trump could in the future capture them and look good? Haha...sure

nursej22, MSN, RN · Jan 26

President Crazy Pants is trying to start a trade war with Colombia.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colombia-turns-away-deportation-flights-rcna189335

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Colombia has denied entry to two U.S. military deportation flights, according to officials from the Department of Homeland Security and the Defense Department.

The flights, carried out on U.S. military C-17 aircraft, were carrying about 80 Colombian migrants each and had departed from California, the defense official told NBC News.

In response, President Donald Trump announced on Truth Social Sunday sweeping retaliatory measures that include tariffs on Colombian imports, visa sanctions on government officials and allies, enhanced customs inspections and financial penalties, as the U.S. accuses Colombia of violating its obligations to accept deported nationals.

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In a statement shared on X, Petro criticized the use of military planes for deportation.

"A migrant is not a criminal and should be treated with the dignity a human being deserves,” he wrote. "We will receive our nationals in civilian airplanes, without treating them as criminals. Colombia must be respected.”

The Brazilian government condemned what it considered to be the degrading treatment of its nationals who were on a ICE repatriation flight Friday, citing the use of handcuffs, a broken air conditioning system and other violations of a bilateral agreement that ensures humane treatment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-s-first-deportation-flights-with-average-of-just-80-migrants-cost-up-to-852-000-per-trip/ar-AA1xPoFM

The current administration is choosing to use military flights to carry out deportations. Hey, where is DOGE to comment on these costs?

Crusades · Jan 26

Beerman said:

LOL

Why were these people in our country in the first place? Why were some released from prison without ICE being notified?

So that Trump could in the future capture them and look good? Haha...sure

No. Now asking neighboring countries to take in Palestine refugees is "ethnic cleansing"!

Trump probably knew these offenders were going to offend but waited until they offended first so he could look good.

Beerman, BSN · Jan 26

nursej22 said:

President Crazy Pants is trying to start a trade war with Colombia.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colombia-turns-away-deportation-flights-rcna189335

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-s-first-deportation-flights-with-average-of-just-80-migrants-cost-up-to-852-000-per-trip/ar-AA1xPoFM

The current administration is choosing to use military flights to carry out deportations. Hey, where is DOGE to comment on these costs?

What's crazy about holding another country responsible to accept back their citizens?

Whoever calculated the cost of the flights to Guetamala thinks it's a 12 hour flight to there from El Paso.

Beerman, BSN · Jan 26

nursej22 said:

President Crazy Pants is trying to start a trade war with Colombia.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colombia-turns-away-deportation-flights-rcna189335

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/trump-s-first-deportation-flights-with-average-of-just-80-migrants-cost-up-to-852-000-per-trip/ar-AA1xPoFM

The current administration is choosing to use military flights to carry out deportations. Hey, where is DOGE to comment on these costs?

Looks like our deportation flights to Columbia now won't cost us anything.

"The president of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, has said in a statement that he would send the presidential plane in order to collect the migrants who are being expelled from the US. The statement comes after President Donald Trump threatened to impose a tariff on the country."

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-maga-claims-huge-victory-933614

Tweety, BSN, RN · Jan 27

Beerman said:

Looks like our deportation flights to Columbia now won't cost us anything.

"The president of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, has said in a statement that he would send the presidential plane in order to collect the migrants who are being expelled from the US. The statement comes after President Donald Trump threatened to impose a tariff on the country."

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/breaking-maga-claims-huge-victory-933614

It didn't take him long to cave did it? I will give Trump the win here. I'm not seeing the story elsewhere yet though.

It does send the message that Trump isn't playing around.

Also we have the same topic in two threads. I thought this thread was about his appointees. LOL

nursej22, MSN, RN · Jan 27

It seems to me that working out this between the US and Colombia should be the responsibility of our secretary of state.

Beerman, BSN · Jan 27

nursej22 said:

It seems to me that working out this between the US and Colombia should be the responsibility of our secretary of state.

It seems to me President Crazy Pants took care of it.

"Late Sunday evening, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt announced the US and Colombia had agreed to the "unrestricted acceptance" of migrants from Colombia and would allow them to be returned to the country "including on US military aircraft, without limitation or delay.”

Leavitt said in the statement the US would not sign the tariffs or economic sanctions Trump ordered "unless Colombia fails to honor this agreement.”

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/colombia-tariffs-trump-deportation-flights/index.html

toomuchbaloney · Jan 27

nursej22 said:

It seems to me that working out this between the US and Colombia should be the responsibility of our secretary of state.

That's not really how Trump prefers to do things.

toomuchbaloney · Jan 27

I'm amused at the willingness to believe the lies crafted on behalf of Trump.