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Confirmation Hearings for the Trump's incredibly bad choices for cabinet leadership positions.  Traitors, drunks, rapists, pet killers and television personalities were the first choice of the mentally ill old man.  

My Senator, Dan Sullivan is all over his social media singing the praises of these folk so we should expect most of them to be confirmed.   

Hegseths hearing should be starting about now.  

 

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Oh no, two of the most unqualified cabinet heads are fighting: 

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/29/us/politics/fbi-gabbard-counterintelligence.html?unlocked_article_code=1.xE8.bpAA.QGRc-trLvWZe&smid=url-share

F.B.I. Opposes Push for Gabbard to Take Lead on Counterintelligence

It seems that Kash Patel, former podcaster and head of the FBI, and Tulsi Gabbard, possible Russian asset and director of national intelligence are having a spat over the investigation of Charlie Kirk's tragic murder. 

The FBI director doesn't want to share intelligence with the head of national intelligence. Who hired these two? Oh yeah, that guy did. 

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Govenor Pritzker asks Sec. Noem to put a hold on ICE raids so kids can trick or treat. 

And her predictable answer: a resounding NO!

 

 

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nursej22 said:

Govenor Pritzker asks Sec. Noem to put a hold on ICE raids so kids can trick or treat. 

And her predictable answer: a resounding NO!

 

 

He was grandstanding,  and her answer was appropriate.

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Beerman said:

He was grandstanding,  and her answer was appropriate.

Grandstanding? Rappelling onto the roof of an apartment building from a Blackhawk helicopter is grandstanding. Making a public plea to leave kids alone exercising his first amendment rights. And using his public platform to protect his constituents. 

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nursej22 said:

Grandstanding? Rappelling onto the roof of an apartment building from a Blackhawk helicopter is grandstanding. 

I don't know the logistics or reason for the helicopter.  Neither do you.  But it's easy to imagine an argument that you're right on this.

So, I'll go along with it.  Even if you're deflecting.

nursej22 said:

Making a public plea to leave kids alone exercising his first amendment rights. 

He is using his right to free speech. 

But if it's a matter of leaving kids alone, why did he ask them to stop just for the holiday?

nursej22 said:

And using his public platform to protect his constituents. 

Again, if he's "protecting" why a public announcement?  And asking them to stop for Halloween?  What does that have to do with anything.  Do you think announcing publicly that a law isn't going to enforced is good policy?  

So, we're back to he was grandstanding,  and Noem's response was appropriate.

BTW, it's interesting that you say illegal aliens are his constituents.  Do you consider illegal aliens to be his constituents? 

It seems apparent that he does. 

 

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I think the idea that ICE would terrorize kids on Halloween is an exaggeration.  Are there any reports that this happened?  

I don't think people care anyway.  No one cares about what ICE does and the effect on children, they don't care that SNAP might affect children (poor kids can't get their Oreos on my tax dollars), they don't care that 3 million children were exposed to gun violence, on and on.  

Of course they fear a transgendered woman going into a female bathroom because it's a threat to children.  But I deflect.

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Children born in the US are American citizens, and if they live in Illinois, then they are the governor's constituents. 
And there are multiple reports of legal citizens being attacked and detained without probable cause, so spare me statements about enforcing the law. 
Earlier this week, a Halloween parade for children was disrupted by an immigration enforcement action. 
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cbp-ice-tear-gas-chicago/

( Cue Beerman discrediting my source.)

 

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nursej22 said:

Children born in the US are American citizens, and if they live in Illinois, then they are the governor's constituents. 
And there are multiple reports of legal citizens being attacked and detained without probable cause, so spare me statements about enforcing the law. 
Earlier this week, a Halloween parade for children was disrupted by an immigration enforcement action. 
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cbp-ice-tear-gas-chicago/

( Cue Beerman discrediting my source.)

 

I asked about illegal aliens.  So, without deflecting, do you consider illegal aliens to be the governor's constituents?

Yes, it is enforcing the law.  The appropriate way to ask them to halt operations would have been to do it directly and non-publicly.  He asked in the public forum, knowing even she she wanted to she couldn't answer publicly that there would be no operations this weekend.

I'm not the one here with the history of automatically discrediting sources.  

According to your source, the immigration enforcement action that was being carried out was an arrest of a illegal alien who also had other criminal history.  Tear gas was used due to a  crowd surrounding agents and refusing to back off.  No reports of children being exposed to tear gas.

Cue more deflective comments.

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I really have to wonder why Democrats always blame LEOs for doing their job of protecting citizens/the public  instead of blaming the criminals and law breakers for their illegal actions/behaviors. Including even those criminals who show up to children's parades. I wonder why Dems don't want the criminals and law breakers out of their neighborhoods. Curious isn't it? 
 

"An emailed response to questions explicitly about the incident, Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin did not deny that agents deployed tear gas near a children's Halloween parade. According to DHS, deployment of "crowd control measures" occurred during an arrest of a person the agency alleged was a "criminal illegal alien from Mexico, who has previously been arrested for assault."

"During the operations Border Patrol agents were surrounded and boxed in by a group of agitators. Federal law enforcement issued multiple lawful commands and verbal warnings, all of which were ignored," McLaughlin said. "During the operation, two U.S. citizens were arrested for assaulting and impeding a federal officer. To safely clear the area after multiple warnings and the crowd continuing to advance on them, Border Patrol had to deploy crowd control measures." 

https://www.Yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-border-patrol-used-235800861.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

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Daisy4RN said:

I really have to wonder why Democrats always blame LEOs for doing their job of protecting citizens/the public  instead of blaming the criminals and law breakers for their illegal actions/behaviors. Including even those criminals who show up to children's parades. I wonder why Dems don't want the criminals and law breakers out of their neighborhoods. Curious isn't it? 
 

The public ought to be able to trust what government spokespeople say, but the last 10 months have shown they are less than truthful. For example, charges against protesters have been dismissed or acquitted when taken to court, in LA and Washington DC, because testimony was found not to be reliable. 

Are DHS personnel so inept as to be unable to detain someone away from a school during school hours? Perhaps, they are not sufficiently trained to actually protect the public, which they claim to do. 

https://wapo.st/47h99gA

Undocumented migrants are not criminals. Entering the US without documentation or overstaying a visa is a misdemeanor. 

https://us-ilc.com/undocumented-immigrants-are-not-criminals/

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Just another thought...maybe if Democrat politicians and others would stop their negative Rhetoric against LEOs whacky violent people would not feel so emboldened to try and stop LEOs from doing their job.

https://nypost.com/2025/11/01/opinion/dem-leaders-outrageous-rhetoric-continues-to-stoke-anti-ice-violence/P

 

The white house one here lists a few examples for you....

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/07/democrats-inspire-vicious-escalating-attacks-on-ice/
 

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Beerman said:

I asked about illegal aliens.  So, without deflecting, do you consider illegal aliens to be the governor's constituents?

 

I was referring to the plea to let children enjoy Halloween. You seem to have deemed them to be illegal aliens. I reject the term "illegal alien" as it is dehumanizing and denigrating. 

As far as I know, in the state of Illinois, only legal citizens may vote for governor. I suppose, because children cannot legally vote, they are technically citizens but not constituents. I think most, if not all US states, treat children as part of the population whom they serve. 

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