Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy

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Voter suppression is UnAmerican and can not be tolerated. Majority Vets get their meds shipped via USPS -60,000/day

Philadelphia Inquirer 8/14/2020

Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy | Editorial

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On Thursday morning, after months of attacks on the United States Postal Service and vote-by-mail, President Donald Trump admitted that the two efforts are connected as a part of one voter disenfranchisement effort. In a Fox Business Network interview, Trump said that the sticking point for him in the negotiations over a new coronavirus economic relief package is Post Office funding: “If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting. They just can’t have it.”

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-usps-pennsylvania-mail-voting-deadlines-lawsuit-20200814.html

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4 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

It appears cal does have checks and balances. Again with the “potential

Quote from President Carter's study, need I say more??

Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.

Again with using potential, not proven. I do not think this word means what you think it means.

Again with using potential, not proven. I do not think this word means what you think it means

I know what it means. Here is a non exhaustive list of proven voter fraud.

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States

The Heritage Foundation’s Election Fraud Database presents a sampling of recent proven instances of election fraud from across the country. This database is not an exhaustive or comprehensive list. It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances that are not investigated or prosecuted. It is intended to demonstrate the vulnerabilities in the election system and the many ways in which fraud is committed. In addition to diluting the votes of legitimate voters, fraud can have an impact in close elections, and we have many close elections in this country. Preventing, deterring, and prosecuting election fraud is essential to protecting the integrity of our voting process. Reforms intended to ensure such integrity do not disenfranchise voters and, in fact, protect their right to vote. Winning elections leads to political power and the incentives to take advantage of security vulnerabilities are great, so it is important that we take reasonable steps to make it hard to cheat, while making it easy for legitimate voters to vote.

1,296

Proven instances of voter fraud

1,119

Criminal convictions

48

Civil penalties

95

Diversion program

16

Judicial finding

17

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The evidence makes the case that incidence of fraud is uncommon and result in charges and conviction in the majority of cases.

That was a small sampling, how you could reach that conclusion is beyond comprehension. Like I stated earlier, I've given up trying to educate liberals. It is an act in futility. Bless your heart

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34 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

That was a small sampling, how you could reach that conclusion is beyond comprehension. Like I stated earlier, I've given up trying to educate liberals. It is an act in futility. Bless your heart

It’s not worth the effort. These people simply lack common sense and a moral compass. They have made some incredibly racist statements against minorities in this thread insinuating they don’t have the mental capacity to simply obtain a voter ID. They have used some very twisted logic stating that the riots and “protests” going on actually lower Covid numbers. They really need to find another field because people in healthcare need to treat everyone equally.

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2 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

It appears cal does have checks and balances. Again with the “potential

Quote from President Carter's study, need I say more??

Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.

If "Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud." then why has President Trump already submitted his absentee ballot instead of flying down to Palm Beach to stand in line to vote during a pandemic???

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2 hours ago, FNP2B1 said:

It appears cal does have checks and balances. Again with the “potential

Quote from President Carter's study, need I say more??

Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.

“Jimmy Carter has become the first former president to publicly support making mail-in voting a nationwide option this year.

His endorsement is important not only because he's among the few American elder statesmen with significant respect from voters of both parties. Carter has also spent much of the past three decades monitoring elections in other countries for signs of corruption. And he co-chaired a bipartisan commission that in 2005 labeled absentee ballots the easiest way to commit election fraud.

Republicans have frequently pointed to that conclusion in explaining their opposition to a widespread expansion of voting from home. But Carter on Wednesday said a wave of safeguards adopted in the past 15 years have changed his mind — and that the coronavirus pandemic makes a quick embrace imperative.”

Times have changed. Carter’s opinion has evolved and he supports mail-in voting, need I say more?

https://thefulcrum.us/amp/jimmy-carter-vote-by-mail-2645945114

need I say more? No but I will. Here is a prime example of an election full of voter fraud when mail in ballots are forced upon the population. Even liberal groups such as the NAACP are calling for this election to invalidated.

Patterson New Jersey

In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted. More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections. Due to the pandemic, Paterson’s election was done through vote-by-mail. Community organizations, such as the city’s NAACP chapter, are calling for the entire election to be invalidated.

Mail-in ballots have long been acknowledged by voting experts to be more susceptible to fraud and irregularities than in-person voting.

Over 800 ballots in Paterson were invalidated for appearing in mailboxes improperly bundled together – including one mailbox where hundreds of ballots were in a single packet. The bundles were turned over to law enforcement to investigate potential criminal activity related to the collection of the ballots.

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5 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

need I say more? No but I will. Here is a prime example of an election full of voter fraud when mail in ballots are forced upon the population. Even liberal groups such as the NAACP are calling for this election to invalidated.

Patterson New Jersey

In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted. More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections. Due to the pandemic, Paterson’s election was done through vote-by-mail. Community organizations, such as the city’s NAACP chapter, are calling for the entire election to be invalidated.

Mail-in ballots have long been acknowledged by voting experts to be more susceptible to fraud and irregularities than in-person voting.

Over 800 ballots in Paterson were invalidated for appearing in mailboxes improperly bundled together – including one mailbox where hundreds of ballots were in a single packet. The bundles were turned over to law enforcement to investigate potential criminal activity related to the collection of the ballots.

https://www.npr.org/2020/07/01/885074932/n-j-election-fraud-case-draws-a-trump-tweet-but-suggests-safeguards-are-working

It's unwise to base an argument upon the beliefs and words of a liar.

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N.J. Election Fraud Case Draws A Trump Tweet But Suggests Safeguards Are Working

...The investigation started after the U.S. Postal Inspection Service tipped off state law enforcement officials to hundreds of mail-in ballots stuffed in a Paterson mailbox. Other bundled ballots were discovered in another nearby city

In New Jersey, voters are expected to mail or submit their mail-in ballots themselves unless they certify a "bearer" to do it on their behalf. A bearer can collect and deliver ballots for no more than three voters in an election, and a candidate in the election cannot serve as a bearer.

Jackson, the councilman, had more than three mail-in ballots that were not his and that did not identify him as the bearer, authorities said. Mendez allegedly delivered mail-in ballots that were not his even though he was a candidate and is accused of submitting voter registration applications for people who were not eligible to vote in that election.

The Passaic County Board of Elections rejected 3,190 ballots, about 19% of the mail-in ballots submitted, for the May 12 election in Paterson, but it is unclear how many were connected to the fraud allegations.....

...."There is a huge myth about voter fraud in this country," said Jesse Burns, executive director of the League of Women Voters of New Jersey.

When voters cast a ballot in person in New Jersey, they are required to sign a poll book to match their signature to election records. The same is true of mail-in ballots, and election officials check the ballot to make sure the signatures match.

During the state's primary on July 7, election officials will notify voters if their ballot was rejected because of a signature mismatch. Burns said it was not only a way for voters to ensure their vote is counted, but it also functions as a warning that another person may have attempted to vote fraudulently in their name.

UC Irvine's Hasen said the security measures used in New Jersey were likely enough to raise the suspicion of authorities. "Even on this small scale, what you see is that having a conspiracy like this to try to affect the outcome of an election is very difficult to do without detection."...

Just goes to show the checks and balances worked.

It's unwise to base an argument upon the beliefs and words of a liar.

Totally agree. That's why voting for Biden would be inappropriate at best.

Just goes to show the checks and balances worked

Uh huh, I'm sure that is why the NAACP wants the results invalidated. They aren't exactly known for being conservatives.

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15 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

need I say more? No but I will. Here is a prime example of an election full of voter fraud when mail in ballots are forced upon the population. Even liberal groups such as the NAACP are calling for this election to invalidated.

Patterson New Jersey

In the City Council election, 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but only 13,557 votes were counted. More than 3,190 votes, 19% of the total ballots cast, were disqualified by the board of elections. Due to the pandemic, Paterson’s election was done through vote-by-mail. Community organizations, such as the city’s NAACP chapter, are calling for the entire election to be invalidated.

Mail-in ballots have long been acknowledged by voting experts to be more susceptible to fraud and irregularities than in-person voting.

Over 800 ballots in Paterson were invalidated for appearing in mailboxes improperly bundled together – including one mailbox where hundreds of ballots were in a single packet. The bundles were turned over to law enforcement to investigate potential criminal activity related to the collection of the ballots.

Did they get away it? No, because the system worked. And here’re the charges. If convicted, they should get the maximum allowable sentences.

“On June 25, state Attorney General Gurbir Grewal charged Paterson City Councilman Michael Jackson, Councilman-Elect Alex Mendez, Shelim Khalique and Abu Razyen with the crimes, saying they collected and delivered more than three ballots each and did not identify themselves as the “bearer.”

Mendez also was accused of submitting one or more voter registration applications where he allegedly knew the person was not eligible to vote in the district. He pleaded not guilty. New Jersey also alleged that Jackson received one ballot that wasn’t sealed, and that ballot was subsequently delivered to the board of elections in a sealed envelope without information identifying the bearer.

Nowhere in any of the charging documents or public statements made by officials in New Jersey does it allege that any of the four men voted on someone else’s behalf.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/15/fact-check-nj-ballot-fraud-case-doesnt-signal-national-trouble/5493078002/

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