Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy

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Philadelphia Inquirer 8/14/2020

Trump’s assault on Postal Service and voting is a plot against American democracy | Editorial

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On Thursday morning, after months of attacks on the United States Postal Service and vote-by-mail, President Donald Trump admitted that the two efforts are connected as a part of one voter disenfranchisement effort. In a Fox Business Network interview, Trump said that the sticking point for him in the negotiations over a new coronavirus economic relief package is Post Office funding: “If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money. That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting. They just can’t have it.”

https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editorials/trump-usps-pennsylvania-mail-voting-deadlines-lawsuit-20200814.html

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28 minutes ago, KalipsoRed21 said:

Southern Illinois. And social distancing and masks aren’t enough. Every business where I live only allows 25% capacity. How is everyone going to be able to vote while polling places are open with such restrictions? Mail in voting should be no big deal!

I live in south central Indiana. Supposedly limits at stores, but no one abides. Again, mail in votes are allowed for those who choose. I do it myself

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1 hour ago, FNP2B1 said:

Mandated mail in voting has the potential to be hugely fraudulent. Cases this week in Manhattan and Patterson NJ show how easily ballots can be lost, manipulated or forged. I have no problem with somebody asking for an absentee ballot. I have a huge issue with ballots being mailed to people who didn't ask for them. It's way to easy rig the system with mass mailings.

Wear your mask, social distance and go to your polling place and vote. If I can wait an hour to get checked out at Costco and I did recently I can wait an hour to vote.

Everything has potential. Every time you get in car there is the potential that you can be in an accident. Do you drive?

And once more, there are already 5 states that have been conducting all their elections via mail only without problems. Where’s the fraud?

And again, show proof of an election swayed by fraudulent votes. The cases you bring up prove the system works.

How do you reconcile not wanting to be told what to do with telling me what to do? You want to vote in person? Fine. I want to vote by mail? Fine.

How do you reconcile not wanting to be told what to do with telling me what to do? You want to vote in person? Fine. I want to vote by mail? Fine

I'm not telling you how to vote. Feel free to vote by mail. Mandating that everyone is a particular state has to vote by mail is absurd. You just proved my point.

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19 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

How do you reconcile not wanting to be told what to do with telling me what to do? You want to vote in person? Fine. I want to vote by mail? Fine

I'm not telling you how to vote. Feel free to vote by mail. Mandating that everyone is a particular state has to vote by mail is absurd. You just proved my point.

I will cede you that point.
However, you still will not address how mandatory mail in voting will cause fraud. You just keep saying it without building an actual case.

20 hours ago, emtb2rn said:

You are aware the debates are already scheduled, right? I’m looking forward to them as well. Be interesting to see how trump handles being on the defensive without melting down. Especially if you recall how biden handled robert bork.

I am looking forward to seeing Trump destroy Biden in the debate. Biden couldn't hold it together when speaking with Michigan factory workers back in March when he tried to lie about his record on the 2nd Amendment. The DNC does not want Biden to debate Trump and I am betting it won't happen for one reason or another. We'll see.

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15 minutes ago, emtb2rn said:

I will cede you that point.
However, you still will not address how mandatory mail in voting will cause fraud. You just keep saying it without building an actual case.

Do you know of any states where people are mandated to vote by mail and cannot vote in person? I'm not certain that anyone is telling people that they must vote by mail ... is it a point to be ceded?

18 minutes ago, emtb2rn said:

I will cede you that point.
However, you still will not address how mandatory mail in voting will cause fraud. You just keep saying it without building an actual case.

I live in liberal California. We are home to an estimated 12 million illegal aliens. It's probably more but that is another issue. By LAW, illegal aliens can not vote in Presidential Elections. When you mail ballots to residence of last known address you really don't know who is going to receive them. At my particular address in the past election I received 3 ballots for people who no longer live at the address. I'm just once example but I'm sure this is repeated across the state. My next door neighbor also received ballots for someone who no longer lived there. It would of been very easy for me to fill out, sign and mail those ballots in for the candidates I chose. That would of been fraud.

When you mail EVERYBODY a ballot to the last known address in a state where migration in and out is common you have the HUGE potential for fraud. How difficult would it be for anybody to complete and mail in a ballot when we have zero checks and balances to confirm identity.

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Zero checks and balances...LOL

President Carter's study focused on the fraud of mail in ballots. Here is a liberal's opinion. Stew in this for awhile.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-jimmy-carter-on-the-danger-of-mail-in-voting-11586557667?mod=opinion_lead_pos10

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

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22 minutes ago, FNP2B1 said:

When you mail EVERYBODY a ballot to the last known address in a state where migration in and out is common you have the HUGE potential for fraud. How difficult would it be for anybody to complete and mail in a ballot when we have zero checks and balances to confirm identity.

“The most common problem, by far, in California was missing the deadline for the ballot to be mailed and arrive. To count in the election, ballots must be postmarked on or before Election Day and received within three days afterward. Statewide, 70,330 ballots missed those marks.

Another 27,525 either didn’t have a signature, or the signature didn’t match the one on record for the voter.“

It appears cal does have checks and balances. Again with the “potential”.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/california-rejected-100000-mail-in-ballots-because-of-mistakes

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Hyperbole is a terrible defense of stated claims.

It appears cal does have checks and balances. Again with the “potential

Quote from President Carter's study, need I say more??

Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.

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