I am a school nurse at a high school and have a lot of kids who identify as trans or non-binary and don't go by their government name and use different pronouns than what are listed on their school chart. While I will call a child their preferred name and use preferred pronouns, not all the teachers I work with are willing to do so. I have had situations where I am talking to other staff members about a student and am using preferred name/pronouns, and it creates confusion, and they have no idea who I am talking about. I.e calling the front desk to let them know the child is sick and going home. Also, I have ran into the situation where a child is called one name and identifies as whatever gender at school, but mom and dad don't know that. I was just wondering how you guys handled these situations.
Side comment: Obviously, there are sometimes when the child needs referred to as their government name and gender for legal reasons and I do such when the situation warrants.
While I would agree with you there is something else going on for this large of a group of a generation to identify as LGBTQIA+, there still needs to be respect provided to every human being. My legal name is Christina but if I want to be called Chris, there is no reason for someone to not honor that request. When dealing with adolescents or any human being, honoring their name request is not the same as saying you agree with their status. It is showing respect for another human being and proof we can be bigger than our feelings and thoughts, something this country is sorely lacking over the past few decades.
Shortened names are a little different than calling a person a completely different gender name than their birth name. it is disrespectful to their parents and also in my state the rule of the law. In Florida you need a written consent from a parent to call a student a preferred name. This is primarily due to the large distractions many "edgelord" students have caused as some boys are crossdressing in schools and other issues. This has become a slippery slope as young women's lives have been put in danger as their private spaces continue to be infiltrated. How far has society fallen when someone doesn't even understand basic biology and go out of their way to deny it?
While historically "trans", crossdressing, etc has been related to trauma and/or organic mental illness it seems these days its become fashionable to be different. People get off on being victims. It's best not to affirm a person's delusions and instead point them towards the proper treatment.
There is no such thing as "trans" and "non-binary". It's perfectly acceptable to challenge the persons delusions or attempt to get off on being a victim. As for homosexuality any youth who express interest in that lifestyle choice need to understand the risks of HIV/AIDS, syphilis, monkey pox, etc.
You are dead wrong. Use your favorite academic search engine and search "genetic gender variations".
While historically "trans", crossdressing, etc has been related to trauma and/or organic mental illness it seems these days its become fashionable to be different. People get off on being victims. It's best not to affirm a person's delusions and instead point them towards the proper treatment.
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For all my fellow school nurses, please stop engaging in conversation with NurseManFlorida. After a quick look at their profile, it appears that this person joined AllNurses December 2, has provided no information regarding their specialty/area of practice and their only comments are designed to ensure we all know their deeply biased beliefs, not to encourage an educated conversation.
I am going to ask an admin to close this discussion. Not because it's not important, only so we can hopefully move back to a place supporting each other and our students.
Gender-affirming care is almost exclusively discussed in connection with transgender medicine. However, this article argues that such care predominates among cisgender patients, people whose gender identity matches their sex assigned at birth. To advance this argument, we trace historical shifts in transgender medicine since the 1950s to identify central components of "gender-affirming care" that distinguish it from previous therapeutic models, such as "sex reassignment." Next, we sketch two historical cases-reconstructive mammoplasty and testicular implants-to show how cisgender patients offered justifications grounded in authenticity and gender affirmation that closely mirror rationales supporting gender-affirming care for transgender people. The comparison exposes significant disparities in contemporary health policy regarding care for cis and trans patients. We consider two possible objections to the analogy we draw, but ultimately argue that these disparities are rooted in "trans exceptionalism" that produces demonstrable harm..
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In recent years, researchers, activists, and the media, particularly the news media, have been warning that the increase in anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric, especially but not exclusively online, coupled with a surge in anti-transgender legislation, has resulted in increased instances of violence against the LGBTQ+ community, especially transgender people. In this article we examine patterns of transphobic ideology and rhetoric, anti-trans legislation, and fatal violence against transgender people in the United States from 2015 to 2022. We find that increases in all three occurred over this time period, with all three aspects of the "trifecta" correlated.
Bigotry is an expected part of US culture. There's lots of information available to help health professionals develop some level of sensitivity to the needs of their patients rather than simply digging in to their own bunkers of beliefs.
Specializes in Oncology, ID, Hepatology, Occy Health.
NurseManFlorida said:
While historically "trans", crossdressing, etc has been related to trauma and/or organic mental illness it seems these days its become fashionable to be different. People get off on being victims. It's best not to affirm a person's delusions and instead point them towards the proper treatment.
There is no such thing as "trans" and "non-binary". It's perfectly acceptable to challenge the persons delusions or attempt to get off on being a victim. As for homosexuality any youth who express interest in that lifestyle choice need to understand the risks of HIV/AIDS, syphilis, monkey pox, etc.
"Getting off on being a victim" ?? Yet in the same breath you dimiss these people out of hand by denying their very existence. Surely gender identity and the issues it raises are a topic for academic discussion - and a legitimate one for all nurses including shcool nurses to be involved in. We need to be having the conversation.
I don't believe it falls within the rôle of the school nurse to direct or dissuade students from any form of identity or sexuality. That is for the student to work out. I do believe the school nurse can warn about the dangers of all STDs that are a risk of unprotected sex - heterosexual and homosexual. Gay man here who's never had HIV, syphillis or monkey pox. I do know straight people who have. Your point was?
Now let's talk about that other risk of unprotected sex where the school nurse may have an educative rôle - unwanted pregnancy. 100% the result of unprotected heterosexual sex. Following your logic, should students be warned against a heterosexual lifestyle? Thought not.
I believe the school nurses here have simply expressed wanting to make their students feel respected and as comfortable as possible, whether they personally agree with the concept of gender dysphoria or not, and that I believe is to be applauded.
You are dead wrong. Use your favorite academic search engine and search "genetic gender variations".
I'm not aware that trans are so due to a genetic variation. Do you have a source for that?
I don't have numbers or research to back it up, but anecdotally as someone who has interacted with more trans kids than most, I believe NurseManFlorida's statement has some merit. Most have a psych history and many seem to be seeking attention. I've seen many turn cisgender seemingly overnight.
That doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated with respect. But sometimes it seems we bend over backwards often at the expense of others to make them feel "included".
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Beerman said:
I'm not aware that trans are so due to a genetic variation. Do you have a source for that?
I don't have numbers or research to back it up, but anecdotally as someone who has interacted with more trans kids than most, I believe NurseManFlorida's statement has some merit. Most have a psych history and many seem to be seeking attention. I've seen many turn cisgender seemingly overnight.
That doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated with respect. But sometimes it seems we bend over backwards often at the expense of others to make them feel "included".
Nah. His comment was bigoted drivel. I did enjoy your anecdotal excuses for bigotry while requesting proof, data or evidence to justify compassionate inclusion.
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Shortened names are a little different than calling a person a completely different gender name than their birth name. it is disrespectful to their parents and also in my state the rule of the law. In Florida you need a written consent from a parent to call a student a preferred name. This is primarily due to the large distractions many "edgelord" students have caused as some boys are crossdressing in schools and other issues. This has become a slippery slope as young women's lives have been put in danger as their private spaces continue to be infiltrated. How far has society fallen when someone doesn't even understand basic biology and go out of their way to deny it?