To those who want to leave nursing

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It seems like every time I come onto AN these days, every other post is "I'm sick of nursing/I want out". I understand the nature of this site and forum and all are welcome to come on and vent, but this post type really irks me. Instead of responding to every post, I wanted to make a blanket reply to all posts.

Ok, you are sick of nursing. For reason A, B, or C , you had a revelation that this is not the profession for you. Lets start with that revelation.

First of all, give it more than a few days before posting about how its time to throw in the towel. Everyone has bad shifts/days/weeks, that is life. After giving yourself some time to cool down, you may realize you are overreacting. Also, can you think of a job prior to nursing that you weren't eventually sick of? Isn't that a part of the reason why you went back to school to become a Nurse? Any job you have had/have/will have will always have negative aspects along with positive aspects. Every job I have ever had its share of poor management, gossip, redundant/ludicrous policies, ungrateful/manipulative customers, and a poor ratio of work put in to compensation. You can try to improve your work environment best you can, you can cope with it, or you can just flat out leave and find work elsewhere. I really can't help you there, that is a decision for you to make.

Doctors are disrespectful and talk down to you? Welcome to nursing. For every difficult doctor (in my opinion, seems to be a 4:1 ratio) you will find one that is respectful and understanding. Some people are easier to work with than others, same goes with co-workers that are RN/LPN/CNA. Again, if you don't like it than fix it - have you tried telling them flat out when they are being disrespectful? You would be surprised how well this works.

Difficult patients? Welcome to nursing. Believe it or not, but people do not like to go to the hospital. They may be difficult for you, but you are as equally difficult for them. When it is medically necessary to be in a hospital, it is not a good experience. When people are in pain it affects their mood. When people are sick, they will get cranky and may say or do things that they wouldn't otherwise. Try to keep that in mind.

Unsafe work environment? I have been on both sides, and I can say now that I am in one of the safest working environments I have EVER been in. If the patient:nurse ratio is too high, look at the patient acuity before crying unsafe. If I am on the floor and taking care of a high ratio (7-8:1), the person that created the assignment probably factored in that these patients are stable and/or easy to care for. If I have a 3:1 ratio, it is probably because these patients are much higher acuity. Take a look at what you perceive as unsafe and what unsafe truly means. When I worked agency, I would be put into low-staffed nursing homes where I was responsible for 45-60 people on a shift - sometimes it was manageable, other times it was VERY unsafe. When I truly feel that patient care is compromised, I speak up. I have refused assignments before, which is a good way to get management to take your concerns seriously. I didn't last there very long due to the frequency of unsafe assignments. When I realized it was unsafe, I found a different job. If you feel safety is compromised, don't keep returning to the same work environment. I don't remember where I heard this, but there is a saying: Insanity is performing the same action(s) and expecting different results.

Ok, whatever has lead you to the decision, you are tired of nursing.

Find a different job. Maybe its not nursing that bugs you, but rather the circumstances of where you work. Nursing as a whole is an increasingly dynamic career path. Not feeling challenged in the nursing home? Work your way up to ICU. Want more autonomy and less care plans? Try Air Care. Too stressed? Take up office nursing or teaching. Don't want to touch people anymore? Go back to school and get into nursing research. It is going to take some time to find what fits you best, and its going to take longer to achieve that position. That's life, you work hard for the job you want.

Take a hiatus. Just because you have the licence doesn't mean you have to use it! I knew a guy that got fed up with nursing and moved on to bartending. He was a bartender for six months and came back to nursing refreshed. Nursing is a very difficult profession, and its okay if you need a break from time to time.

Go back to school. If money is not enough or work is leaving you in a rut, advance yourself. Can't afford to? Baloney! If you sit down I am sure you can figure it out. I am up to my neck in debt, but I still feel that going to school for nursing was the best decision I have made in my life.

For every post that reads "Sick of Nursing" there are at least 10 posts that are "Would do anything - Can't find a job in nursing!" . **** or get off the pot! People would die for your job right now, especially in this economy. You are not doing anybody any good when you hate nursing, yet you sit on your job. It reflects on your patient care, it is taken out on your co-workers, and it keeps good, hard-working, passionate people out of the profession. If you are miserable then leave! If you feel you can fix your attitude, than at least try to fix it. Don't sit around and mope; you are a professional, start acting like one.

If this post comes across as insensitive, than grow up. You are an adult. You made the decision to go to school, you made the choice to work at your job. You have the power to change your job. You have the power to leave at any time.

Thanks for listening to my rant.

Specializes in Med Surg - Renal.
If it were only that easy.

The OP is 25 yrs old. Everything was simpler when I was 25.

I guess the OP didn't pass the therapeutic communication part of the NCLEX.

Even at a tender 25, the OP struck chords with some of us, um...more seasoned folks too.

Specializes in ICU.
Yeah, I am only 25. Before you start making ageist assumptions on my path to today, let me clear something up. Since 15 years old, I have been working full time (32-40 hours). I have been paying my own rent, food, and transportation since 16. I have been in retail, roofing/construction, food service, traffic control, factory work, farm work, sales, and I did work at a humane society for three years prior to nursing. For what student loans I could qualify for I am indebted. Everything else was out of pocket, and required 40-50 hour work weeks while going through school full time. At the busiest point in my life, I was working three jobs and 75-80 hours a week. I do agree that my youth leaves room for naivety, but I worked HARD to be where I am today. I love what I do, and I would do it all over again.

To put it bluntly, BFD! We have ALL worked hard to get where we are! We all have lives, spouses, children, have had crappy jobs, some even including nursing. Alot of us are drowning in debt with student loans, mortgages, car payments, have one income, etc. I was a 15yr old high school drop out who had a baby, and worked to get my high school diploma, even when they didnt have programs to bring your baby to school in 1984. This is just the beginning of the story of education that myself, my husband, and kids went through while I earned 3 degrees, my husband earned 2, and each of our 3 children earned a college degree. We all have our stories..which in my opinion gives us all the right to vent. I don't know about anyone else, but I come here to vent and read because I have no support system at home that understand the trials and tribulations of being a nurse. And you know what the days that I want to leave nursing it is the mortgage, the car payments, the student loan payments, my husbands monthly medical expenses with insurance, that make it so I just can't walk away from it. While I am on this subject, how DARE you state as you did in your original post that MY patient care suffers. I might not always like my job, but I am ALWAYS professional as are 99% of the men and women I work with. Come back and evaluate the validity of your post in a few years, I bet you change your tune on that. And PS if it bugs you so much to see it then don't read the posts. I don't believe being on allnurses.com is a job requirement anywhere, so you should be ok. :twocents:

Specializes in NICU, ER, OR.

ummmm, ok......

Specializes in Trauma Surgery, Nursing Management.

Remind me y'all...

Wasn't there a thread recently about AN getting boring?!?!?

;)

Specializes in m/s,tele.
If it were only that easy.

The OP is 25 yrs old. Everything was simpler when I was 25.

I guess the OP didn't pass the therapeutic communication part of the NCLEX.

Exactly. The 25 yr old newbie nurse is an Epic fail on therapeutic communications. Clueless as to what some of us are going through at work.

Specializes in LTC, Medical, Telemetry.
So let me see if I understand this, you can rant and vent about something that bothers you, but feel others should censor themselves because it bothers you? Here's the beauty of a public forum, keep scrolling and don't read it.

Censor themselves? No, people will rant as they please. But am I denied the same right? Were you not compelled to reply to my post because it bothered you?

Thank you carolmaccas66, not for agreeing or disagreeing but for a thoughtful response to my post.

And the 65 pt load was NOT manageable - the 45 load on the easiest floor in the NH was manageable. The 65 was most certainly not, especially being agency and not familiar with the environment. I went to the right people, spoke directly about my concerns, and they helped to make it manageable. I was very lucky that night, had I been alone I would have been in a very dangerous environment. Also, I consider psych pt to be high acuity, particularly when they are unpredictable or suicide watch. What I meant by low acuity would be walkie/talkie, A+O, independent - maybe stable COPD exacerbation, dehydration, UTI, hyponatriemia w/o AMS, etc

Again with the discrimination - I understand the fact that a lot of people have more experience than me. Offer your experience and allow it to serve as a merit towards your response. Yes, many people in this world know much more than I do. But do not detract from my main point due to the fact that I am young or inexperienced. If you disagree with my post, please validate it with more than my age.

I don't know how to make it more clear - this is not an attack on people ranting or venting on AN. It is therapeutic to vent amongst peers in your profession, but I don't see how constructive a post is when you make threats about leaving the profession entirely. I am sympathetic to those who are struggling and when nursing gets hard. But if you are really miserable enough to repeatedly post about hating nursing enough to want to leave the profession entirely, yet you make every excuse why you can't, I can't feel entirely empathetic. Sometimes life circumstances are hard and don't leave much wiggle room - why not talk about this to your family, manager, co-workers? These people may be able to help you make the situation more bearable. Posters on AN may be able to offer emotional support, but the situation remains the same.

Specializes in LTC, Hospice, Case Management.
Remind me y'all...

Wasn't there a thread recently about AN getting boring?!?!?

;)

You beat me to it. I was just scrolling down and planned to post this at the end.

Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.
Yeah, I am only 25. Before you start making ageist assumptions on my path to today, let me clear something up. Since 15 years old, I have been working full time (32-40 hours). I have been paying my own rent, food, and transportation since 16. I have been in retail, roofing/construction, food service, traffic control, factory work, farm work, sales, and I did work at a humane society for three years prior to nursing. For what student loans I could qualify for I am indebted. Everything else was out of pocket, and required 40-50 hour work weeks while going through school full time. At the busiest point in my life, I was working three jobs and 75-80 hours a week. I do agree that my youth leaves room for naivety, but I worked HARD to be where I am today. I love what I do, and I would do it all over again.

As far as not reading the posts, I tried. I generally pass right over them - the reason why I posted is the flood of topics related to this subject. I didn't want to troll or single anybody out, so I felt it would be more rude to reply to those posts. My problem is not related to nurses that are frustrated, burnt out, had negative experiences.... I like those posts and offer my support as I can. To those who come on here to bash nursing as a whole without allowing the option of reprisal or change, I have no tolerance.

I knew this post would generate some heat...

OK, so you admit you knew this post would generate heat. That is a risk u take when posting something.

But I REALLY have to say this: YOU THINK NONE OF US WORKED HARD TO GET WHERE WE WERE?? Matey, I tell you, some of us have had WAAAY more hard lives than you! I've known nurses who worked full time and were single mums AND studied as well to pass their degree - my gf is a CN now. I did a 6 week clinical with NO MONEY FROM ANYONE - my government wouldn't help & family could only help minimally. I even went BEGGING to the Salvation Army & other charity places - no-one would help out. I economised, I lived on 2 min noodles & rice mixed with cheap tuna; I walked to many places; I got threatening letters re my bills - anything to get thru the last 6 weeks of study to pass. NOBODY cared that I was a student & less that I was a nursing student. Nobody gave me a break.

Many of us have worked longer years in nursing & in hospitals/other facilities than you. We get it. We know nursing is stressful, we get fed up, we get tired of dealing with the same whiny patients, turning up with the same problems again and again and again, we get TIRED of giving so much of our soul to others. Many of us do look for other jobs, the world economy isn't that great now. Life isn't as easy as you make it out to be!

Give some people on here a break, hey?

Specializes in LTC, Medical, Telemetry.
To put it bluntly, BFD! We have ALL worked hard to get where we are! We all have lives, spouses, children, have had crappy jobs, some even including nursing. Alot of us are drowning in debt with student loans, mortgages, car payments, have one income, etc. I was a 15yr old high school drop out who had a baby, and worked to get my high school diploma, even when they didnt have programs to bring your baby to school in 1984. This is just the beginning of the story of education that myself, my husband, and kids went through while I earned 3 degrees, my husband earned 2, and each of our 3 children earned a college degree. We all have our stories..which in my opinion gives us all the right to vent. I don't know about anyone else, but I come here to vent and read because I have no support system at home that understand the trials and tribulations of being a nurse. And you know what the days that I want to leave nursing it is the mortgage, the car payments, the student loan payments, my husbands monthly medical expenses with insurance, that make it so I just can't walk away from it. While I am on this subject, how DARE you state as you did in your original post that MY patient care suffers. I might not always like my job, but I am ALWAYS professional as are 99% of the men and women I work with. Come back and evaluate the validity of your post in a few years, I bet you change your tune on that. And PS if it bugs you so much to see it then don't read the posts. I don't believe being on allnurses.com is a job requirement anywhere, so you should be ok. :twocents:

BFD? Yeah, it shouldn't be a big deal but my credibility was called into question. I was adding a little perspective because otherwise I am just a 25 year old idiot who is incapable of life experiences. I am not going to compare war stories.

don't you think that nurses with 10x your experience, or twice your age, don't know the pitfalls in nsg?

...or know what they could/should do in ea and every situation?

to condescendingly infer this to your experienced peers, is an insult in itself.

from your post, i can see you haven't experienced the half of it.

and fwiw, sometimes your resolutions work, most times they don't.

nsg is an extremely backstabbing business, where often those who try to sabotage you, are the ones who stay...

and the ones who try and advocate/speak-up, are the ones who are harrassed/bullied and even terminated.

i really wish it was all as black and white as you purport it to be.

but it's not.

only when you've seen it often enough, will you understand.

it's not always a matter of "wanting" to leave.

equally as notable, there are just as many who feel pushed out/away from nsg.

until you truly know of what you speak, sometimes it's wiser to just observe the world around you...

and recognize there's much validity of what the posters vent about.

that must be respected as well.

every single nurse here, knows the personal and professional rewards that a pt's words can bring.

but they are not enough to sustain the overall reality of what nsg really entails.

i hope you never understand what i'm talking about.

leslie

^^^This.

OP has no clue what this profession requires in the long run.

Specializes in LTC Rehab Med/Surg.

I can vent here or not.

I can read the vent or not.

I can choose to do either or neither.

I am exercising my right to the latter.

Good night to my fellow nurses on AN.

Specializes in Critical Care.

oh please everyone. get off her back. i assume she did pass the theraputic communication portion of nclex. in psych nursing clinical i remember a very important theraputic communication tool was PRESENTING REALITY!

this is a site to vent on, yes. ppl come here on the worst days. when you are having your best day, you are busy having your best day and wouldn't "waste" your time talking about it, no?

a lot of the "sick of nursing" posts receive oodles of coddling from fellow nurses. truth hurts. assess your own sitch and make some changes or shush up.

to OP, thank you for presenting reality!

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