sorry i am a novice and nothing but a thorn in your flesh...i promise, i'll learn fast.
sorry that i make your day seem so long and bleak...i'm in your way, so i don't miss a thing
sorry that i think you're being mean to me...because you are. perception is reality.
sorry that all my questions make you want to tear your hair out...i seek only to understand
sorry that beneath all that swag i carry, you fail to see it for what it truly is- fear!
sheer fear at the amount of learning that i have to go through...
sheer fear at the thought of making a mistake..no matter how little...
sheer fear that nursing school experience even with all the stressors did not prepare me for this...
it is nothing compared to this...being on the floor on your own with no preceptor as a buffer.
fear that i would be laughed at and ridiculed..( oh don't think that i don't notice it when you do that to my fellow novice nurses....yes, sometimes to your colleagues too).
the same fear is what hinges on me that when you tell me to connect the dots, i fail to see it,
even when it is right in front of me...
and when you tell me to see the big picture, i try ...truly i do...it's just overshadowed by the little pieces i see
with the passage of time and a wealth of experience later, you forgot a vital component- you were once like me, a novice.
dear experienced nurse,
i finally realise something,
someday, i will be like you,
someday, i will have that experience..
someday, i will become an expert...
nursing school did prepare me for this...i just had to reach deep to find it.
the difference between us? i will remember how it was being a novice.
signed,
kt5
([color=lemonchiffon]could not sleep...trying out my poetry).
Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
no! commend or disagree with me, as you will. but please do not paint all new nurses the same. do not turn around and paint all new nurses with the same brush as you oft accuse others of painting old nurses with one brush.
you truly do not get it, do you?
there are new nurses who are eager to learn, and learn everything they can from everyone they can. and then there are new nurses who would rather get defensive and make excuses than learn something. from what we've seen on this thread, i know which kind you are. and you don't get it.
there are new nurses who are eager to learn, and learn everything they can from everyone they can. and then there are new nurses who would rather get defensive and make excuses than learn something. from what we've seen on this thread, i know which kind you are. and you don't get it.
very astute. you can make judgments based on posts. there's a crack showing;).
I've read all the replies. I am a new nurse myself and I started off in the MICU (mistake number one) and I had such a hard time there. Mainly because I didnt listen to my instincts and start off on a floor instead. I can certainly see this arguement from both sides.
I was a new grad starting my career off in a critical care area. I was scared to death as it was, and here I am trying to learn the BASICS of nursing, time management, critical thinking, build self confidence, build nursing judgment, ALL at the same time. So, yes, I may have asked the same questions 3 times, because I am a hands on learner, and I was also trying to build my confidence at the same time. I know my limitations so I asked to be transferred out of ICU to ER so I can work on those things.
Looking back on that experience, I can say I see how some of my preceptors may have felt. For one, I should have already mastered the basics of nursing prior to coming to such a high critical area. When I say basics, I mean hanging blood, starting IV's, inserting foleys and NG tubes, admits, discharges, blood draws, IM injections, transfers, providing total care, etc. I didnt even have those things down and here I was in such a high critical area, which I totally was not prepared for. So, yes, I may have irritated my preceptor on more than one occassion.
I know everyone has to start somewhere. I just wish I would have started on a less acute area where I had a chance to build my self confidence as a nurse FIRST. Therefore, things people said to me would not have gotten to me as much. I understand it was for my benefit to make me a better nurse, and in many ways, it did, because I am flourshing in the ER (according to my preceptor).
Also, another thing, I had to realize what I didnt know and my own limitations. I had to humble myself and really come to terms that ICU just wasnt for me at this time in my career and accept that without feeling like a failure. It wasnt about me, but about the pts and I believe I didnt have the skill level, nor the confidence to take care of critically ill pts and keep them alive for 12 hours.
On the other hand, I know how it feels to be "berated" by a preceptor. One of my preceptors was having "man" issues, and she would go out in the hallway and check Facebook, and if her "man" had something on his wall she didnt like, she would take it out on me, by yelling at me or being condesending. She would later come back and "apologize" for her behavior. I said nothing, as I didnt want it to seem like I was the problem.
I think some nurses are really good at what they do, but they are not good teachers. I also think some new grads come straight out of nursing school with this "I'm gonna rock the (insert unit here)" with this cocky attitude and they are UNTEACHABLE, period. What some new grads fail to realize is you don't know what you don't know. And for some odd reason, they think they still have a clinical instructor to "impress", so they carry this mentality to their first job and don't really know how to accept constructive criticism when given.
Very astute. You can make judgments based on posts. There's a crack showing;).
Well then, that makes us just like you, doesn't it
Honestly, I don't think there's any point in going on with this thread. You started by telling us that we're not very nice people who are out to get you and how you're going to be better than we are. Then as you struggled to deflect the whole thing away from yourself by claiming it was just a light-hearted poem your scribbled down, you eschewed our advice and laughed at us for it, continued to describe us as incapable of compassion, incapable of learning, incapable of "getting it"... but it's all much ado about nothing, 'cuz you didn't mean any harm in the first place, right? The more we counter your self-centered view with assurances that we understand how you feel and ask you to consider how we feel, the more insulting you become. There is really no need to continue this cycle of abuse
You think Ruby can make judgements based on posts? Well, I can make a few myself. Based on your posts in this thread I have decided this whole thing is a game to you. You originally posted what you must have known would be an inflammatory poem. When people responded to it by trying to point out other points of view, you sarcastically discounted their ideas. When people called you on your sarcasm you tried to play the "lighten up, it's just a joke" card. Never did I see any serious attempt to understand--not agree--just simply understand. If I didn't know from other threads that you are a legitimate poster, I'd think you were a troll.
I hope you've had a good time stirring the drama pot, because I sense the fun is ending. People are onto you. People don't appreciate you singling out certain members of the board to bait, especially when it seems to be for your own amusement.
Respond or not, I really don't care. You will have a ways to go to earn back respect from me, and I have a feeling I'm not alone.
you've totally missed my point, but nursemike said it better, anyway. mean is in the eye of the beholder means that when some folks look at a seasoned nurse trying to help them through a critical thinking process without spoon feeding them the answer, they see "a nasty old hag who isn't helping me a bit and ought to retire anyway." others may see an experienced nurse trying to help them improve their critical thinking in order to make them a better nurse. and it may be exactly the same nurse and exactly the same incident.
those who see the experienced nurse trying to help them tend to be happier, last longer and be better nurses. which are you?
yeah but there is a very thin line between trying to help someone become a better nurse and discouraging someone..
mods, please close this thread down now because it has outlived any possible usefulness. the trolls
have come out to play.
thank you!
shar pei mom:paw::paw:
awww, thank you so much sharpiemom! one thing i have learned in my short nursing career is i learn from everyone, no matter how good or bad the fit may be. i also consider myself teachable as i am hungry for knowledge. i have hopes of maybe going into education one day, so trust me, i'm learning alot!
I'm the one who remarked that the more seasoned nurses are being "painted with one brush" not Leslie and I don't believe I'm guilty of doing the same in my post.
Well then, that makes us just like you, doesn't it
Honestly, I don't think there's any point in going on with this thread. You started by telling us that we're not very nice people who are out to get you and how you're going to be better than we are. Then as you struggled to deflect the whole thing away from yourself by claiming it was just a light-hearted poem your scribbled down, you eschewed our advice and laughed at us for it, continued to describe us as incapable of compassion, incapable of learning, incapable of "getting it"... but it's all much ado about nothing, 'cuz you didn't mean any harm in the first place, right? The more we counter your self-centered view with assurances that we understand how you feel and ask you to consider how we feel, the more insulting you become. There is really no need to continue this cycle of abuse
Ruby Vee, BSN
17 Articles; 14,051 Posts
there are new nurses who are eager to learn, and learn everything they can from everyone they can. and then there are new nurses who would rather get defensive and make excuses than learn something. from what we've seen on this thread, i know which kind you are. and you don't get it.