This was interesting in the news today...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157480905/spain-menstrual-leave-teen-abortion-trans-laws

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The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.

The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood.  I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time. 

nursej22 said:

So decrease in border crossings is a bad thing?  I'm so confused. 

It is for "down, down with deportation" Kamala and the open border and decriminalize illegal immigration crowd.

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Beerman said:

I don't see how it's wrong to deport those who arrived illegally.

Even if he fails at his grand deportation plan, he'll at least shore up the border and drastically cut new arrivals.  In comparison to Harris or any other Democrat I can think, I'll take it.

I know as someone who favors decriminalizing illegal immigration and amnesty, you hold the opposite view.

I am much more fearful of mass acts of terrorism due to Biden's lax border policy than I am of Trump's "threat to democracy."  I bet you may be as well if you were to share your honest opinion.

We discussed detention camps as they have played out in world history in a previous thread.  It's unfortunate, but not surprising, that none of the negative or harmful impacts of such camps are retained by people who favor authoritarians in leadership positions.  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9713141/#:~:text=a conceptual model.-,Poor Conditions and Inhumane Treatment,their physical and mental health.

You are much more likely to fear a "what if" related to immigration rather than fear a known and stated intention from the guy who already interfered in the peaceful transfer of power and tried to overthrow election results when he lost power in 2020.   One fear is based in speculation and the rhetoric of political figures and the other fear is based in the previous behavior of the man with the mental illness.  

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Beerman said:

Yes.  Because 1) Biden reacted to polls in an election year and did what he could have done a few years ago.  A little too late to stop the millions his welcome mat policy let in.

2)They always go down in Summer due to extreme heat and humidity.

Biden's policy has resulted in a reduction in illegal border crossings and Trump's policy resulted in Republicans killing a comprehensive border bill in order to maintain the status quo to benefit Trump.  

Right wing feelings about immigration seem to be unmoveable by facts or evidence and based primarily in fears that aren't supported by the data but are repeated over and over again.  

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Beerman said:

It is for "down, down with deportation" Kamala and the open border and decriminalize illegal immigration crowd.

Is this a new chant in Trump world? Outside of that, it doesn't seem to make much sense. 

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heron said:

Your point?

Well everyone is so vigilant about associating Trump to the most vague comparison to Nazis. I thought I would point out the similarities of Harris and her "joy" campaign  and Hitlers propagandist "strength through joy ". 

Stalin and Mussolini/Mao all had simular propaganda to fool their population into believing they were good leaders. Apparently Harris took notes. 

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https://www.axios.com/2024/09/25/hakeem-jeffries-bailout-mike-johnson-shutdown

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Johnson is working the edges: He promised his members he won't cave to an omnibus spending deal in December. He even ruled out the "minibus" approach, with multiple bills packaged together.

Count us as skeptical, but he's telling Republicans what they want to hear.

Don't look for Senate Democrats to rush to pass individual spending bills in the post-election lame-duck session, when they'd rather be confirming judges.

🚨NEWS: House Democratic leaders expect an overwhelming majority of their members to vote "yes" on Wednesday.

"I think that we're going to support it," said Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.), the chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.

Between the lines: For Jeffries, the vote is an all-too-familiar position.

The New York Democrat has repeatedly found himself in the role of dictating the fate of Republican legislation over the last two years.

Rep. Dan Kildee (D-Mich.), a member of Jeffries' leadership team, said the New Yorker has been "functionally exercising the kind of leadership it takes to get things through the House."

It would be great if both political parties were interested in and capable of governing.  Today, Jim Jordan will be holding another Weaponization of the Federal Government hearing.  Even the name of the hearing is a form of gas lighting.  It's all about the FBI being mean and unfair to Trump.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Is this a new chant in Trump world? Outside of that, it doesn't seem to make much sense. 

Have no idea what you're speaking of.

It doesn't seem to make much sense.

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Crusades said:

Well everyone is so vigilant about associating Trump to the most vague comparison to Nazis. I thought I would point out the similarities of Harris and her "joy" campaign  and Hitlers propagandist "strength through joy ". 

Stalin and Mussolini/Mao all had simular propaganda to fool their population into believing they were good leaders. Apparently Harris took notes. 

What a ridiculous projection.  

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Crusades said:

Well everyone is so vigilant about associating Trump to the most vague comparison to Nazis. I thought I would point out the similarities of Harris and her "joy" campaign  and Hitlers propagandist "strength through joy ". 

Stalin and Mussolini/Mao all had simular propaganda to fool their population into believing they were good leaders. Apparently Harris took notes. 

The comparisons of trump to hitler aren't vague at all. He's been quite explicit in his admiration for fascist strongmen and domestic nazis. He's been cozying up to them and other domestic terrorist wannabes since at least the 2015 presidential campaign.

Your tortured analogy about Harris' campaign language breaks down immediately. Using one word that was also used by bad guys does not equal a policy statement or political manifesto. 

Try again.

I'm off to read the DOJ indictment regarding Russian payments to right-wing influencers in the US. Putin is on the ropes at home and his Ukraine invasion is not going well. He desperately needs trump to win the presidency again so he can get back to work trying to break up NATO. Ya gotta wonder who else is cashing in.

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Beerman said:

Have no idea what you're speaking of.

It doesn't seem to make much sense.

That's very disingenuous since I quoted what I was speaking about, which happened to be your contribution.  At least we agree that the content didn't make sense.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

What a ridiculous projection.  

"Projection " the great deflection.  

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Biden's policy has resulted in a reduction in illegal border crossings and Trump's policy resulted in Republicans killing a comprehensive border bill in order to maintain the status quo to benefit Trump.  

Right wing feelings about immigration seem to be unmoveable by facts or evidence and based primarily in fears that aren't supported by the data but are repeated over and over again.  

You seem to be unaware that is not only "right wing" feeling on the impact of migration. 

"Facts" or "evidence "  according to who? 

Why would we believe these proposed "facts" and "evidence" produced by the WH after hearing for 3 yrs that the "border is secure and there is no crisis" by Biden and Harris. Only to have them flip the idea and now claim there is a crisis right around election time? Then come up with a ridiculous bill that is unnecessary as there is no new bill needed if Biden did his job as POTUS.  In the last 4 yrs Biden/Harris could have shut the border with current laws in place. 

I know. It must be this political theater you ramble on about. 

This is a preview of what a Harris presidency would look like.   

https://www.nyc.gov/content/getstuffdone/pages/asylum-seeker-update

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/19/white-house-backtracks-bidens-comment-crisis-border/7288376002/

So was Biden lying or confused? 

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