This was interesting in the news today...

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https://www.npr.org/2023/02/16/1157480905/spain-menstrual-leave-teen-abortion-trans-laws

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The abortion law builds on legislation passed in 2010 that represented a major shift for a traditionally Catholic country, transforming Spain into one of the most progressive countries in Europe on reproductive rights. Spain's constitutional court last week rejected a challenge by the right-wing Popular Party against allowing abortions in the first 14 weeks of pregnancy.

The debate will be heated in Spain, I imagine, as the conservative opposition pushes back. My daughter had horrible menstrual pain during her adolescence and young adulthood.  I'm certain that she would have benefitted from that time. 

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Tweety said:

NPR covered it on their 5 minutes podcast this morning.   CNN and MSNBC have covered it.  Perhaps when Subee's post was made the story was just coming out is why you didn't see it on MSNBC and CNN.

I don't think it's a big story, just another agency DOGE is going after.

Noticeably absent in covering the story is Fox News.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/18/nx-s1-5331354/doge-staff-enter-the-u-s-institute-of-peace-with-d-c-police-help

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/independent-agency-ceo-doge-has-broken-into-our-building-234654789971

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/17/politics/doge-us-institute-of-peace-trump-administration-overhaul-board/index.html

Seems like maybe he didn't even try a Google search for the content. It's almost like he wasn't really interested.  

toomuchbaloney said:

Seems like maybe he didn't even try a Google search for the content. It's almost like he wasn't really interested.  

I Googled "NGO broken into" and "NGO  burglarized".

I should have known the original comment was factually incorrect,  but that's all I had to work with.

subee said:

Did we just become a police state today?  It's very distressing to see that the police would not protect an NGO from being broken into and the police did nothing?  Wow.  It's happening even faster than I thought it would.
 

Not a NGO.

DC police answers to the Mayor of DC who is a Democrat elected by 75% of the vote.  So, doubt they helped DOGE break in to anything.

toomuchbaloney said:

The NCI is the largest source of funding for cancer research in the world. Musk put all of that funding on hold.  Musk capped the indirect costs of that research at 15% and that adversely affected research teams.  Did that clear up your confusion?  I don't need it wasn't you to feel alarmed, just better informed.  

I'm laughing that you think that the work done at the University of Michigan doesn't "stack up well".  Would you like to read what they published last year? 

Perhaps this can shed some light on and clear up your confusion about why the cap on indirect costs adversely affects research teams.  

"Universities are so confident of the government's forking over millions in indirect cost payments that they develop their future budgets on the assumption of such payments, even before receiving a single government grant. This assumption of an eternal windfall should count as a so-called reliance interest on the universities' part, the academic plaintiffs argued in their motion for a temporary restraining order: "Universities have accordingly made costly decisions about long-term investments, such as what physical infrastructure should be built, in reliance on negotiated rates with federal agencies allowing for the recovery of some such costs via depreciation.”

https://www.city-journal.org/article/nih-university-funding-research-budgets-indirect-costs

 

And, still waiting for that published research.

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Beerman said:

Thank you.  Without any context it wasn't possible to find what story she was talking about.  

You're correct, not a big story.

Yeah, I didn't figure it out at first from the post either.  Reminder that if we're mentioning something where we are reading it would be important to share.

Maybe @subee is talking about something else, since what I posted was not a NGO.

In doing a deeper dive apparently DOGE have entered an agency before, with federal marshal.  US African Development Foundation refused to let them in.  Seems a bit much.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/03/07/politics/us-african-development-agency-standoff

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Beerman said:

I Googled "NGO broken into" and "NGO  burglarized".

I should have known the original comment was factually incorrect,  but that's all I had to work with.

Apparently you didn't really want to discover the answer or your internet search skills are subpar.  You should provide some evidence that what you say was incorrect was, indeed, incorrect.   

You accept factually incorrect nonsense from Trump and his sychophants everyday.  That's what you chose for the whole country, from the top down.  Trump supporters should be expert at making sense of such things by now. What a terrible excuse.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

Apparently you didn't really want to discover the answer or your internet search skills are subpar.  You should provide some evidence that what you say was incorrect was, indeed, incorrect.   

When you're presenting vague and factually incorrect information one's search skills aren't subpar, the poster is posting incorrect information, or if indeed a non government agency was entered then she should have posted the story.  

Now the story has more news agencies reporting it, I was able to find something "NGO entered by DOGE" but it defaulted to the government agency since no NGO was entered that I could find.

The poster should have given us some truth to work with at the very least, but at best sourced some information so we could read the story rather than some overreacting rhetoric 

 

Tweety said:

When you're presenting vague and factually incorrect information one's search skills aren't subpar, the poster is posting incorrect information, or if indeed a non government agency was entered then she should have posted the story.  

Now the story has more news agencies reporting it, I was able to find something "NGO entered by DOGE" but it defaulted to the government agency since no NGO was entered that I could find.

The poster should have given us some truth to work with at the very least, but at best sourced some information so we could read the story rather than some overreacting rhetoric 

 

Thank you.  You said it better than the effort I was going to put into a reply.

 

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Tweety said:

When you're presenting vague and factually incorrect information one's search skills aren't subpar, the poster is posting incorrect information, or if indeed a non government agency was entered then she should have posted the story.  

Now the story has more news agencies reporting it, I was able to find something "NGO entered by DOGE" but it defaulted to the government agency since no NGO was entered that I could find.

The poster should have given us some truth to work with at the very least, but at best sourced some information so we could read the story rather than some overreacting rhetoric 

 

Nevertheless, @Beermans comment reflects the disingenuous position of Trump supporters. 

We are in a constitutional crisis.  

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Beerman said:

Perhaps this can shed some light on and clear up your confusion about why the cap on indirect costs adversely affects research teams.  

"Universities are so confident of the government's forking over millions in indirect cost payments that they develop their future budgets on the assumption of such payments, even before receiving a single government grant. This assumption of an eternal windfall should count as a so-called reliance interest on the universities' part, the academic plaintiffs argued in their motion for a temporary restraining order: "Universities have accordingly made costly decisions about long-term investments, such as what physical infrastructure should be built, in reliance on negotiated rates with federal agencies allowing for the recovery of some such costs via depreciation.”

https://www.city-journal.org/article/nih-university-funding-research-budgets-indirect-costs

 

And, still waiting for that published research.

No you aren't waiting on anything.  That remark was disingenuous too. 

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Government grants are a huge part of university research.  Perhaps it should be reigned and a close look at what they are researching.  

It has been a reliable source of revenue and it's no wonder it's built into their budget.  

Apparently NIH with a 48 billion budget spends most of it on research.  I hope it's not slashed to much.  There's a reason we're the leader in the world in the most Nobel Prizes.  

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/johns-hopkins-cuts-staff-trump-usaid-rcna196512

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Some 36% of Canadians with U.S. travel plans said they'd already canceled them.

 

That's bad news for us here in Florida, although I'm not sure of the affect it's had yet.  We rely on Canadian snowbirds and tourists.  Tourism is one of the reasons we don't have a state income tax.  Canada for most years is the #1 source of international travelers here.

DeSantis posted last month that we had a good year for tourism in 2024 with over 3.3 million visitors from Canada.  

From what I can see we're still doing well, especially with domestic tourism.  

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/travel/canadian-tourism-boycotts-trump-rcna196136

https://www.flgov.com/eog/news/press/2025/record-broken-again-florida-announces-highest-tourism-numbers-state-history-2024

But trouble may be brewing.

https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/canadian-snowbirds-florida-trump-tariffs/

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