I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
It's interesting to note that you seems to understand that 1.5 million people is a large number to enter any country. So I would assume at least double that amount allowed into the US is also as outrageous? Seriously?
Yes you may assume that. You're ending with "seriously" as if I don't understand that. Is there any post anywhere that you've read from me that suggests that I am okay with illegal immigration in any number?
I don't like dehumanizing them and understand that some of then are criminals and gang members (and good riddance), but I also understand that some of them are human beings with families to support and do so working very hard but they too are are breaking the law. Any post that suggests I don't understand this?
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The mass deportation does not include legal immigrants and legal migrants. Trump isn't asking neighboring countries of Gaza to accept 1.5 million ILLEGAL immigrants. He's asking them to take in refugees.
Perhaps it is apples and oranges and I do understand the difference between an illegal resident and a refugee. Both countries have been burdened with refugees and I think asking them "why can't you take in 1.5 more?" is a not a reasonable question. I understand why they would say no. Especially when they don't want to go in the first place.
I know it doesn't include asking neighboring countries to take in legal refugees. Perhaps you don't understand?
A country led by an accused criminal, bombs the snot out of region, killing >46,000 people, including 18,000 children, and leveling homes, schools and hospitals. Then, a close ally of that leader says to "clean out" that region, suggesting they be absorbed by other countries. You know, move out the Palestinians from Palestine, their ancestral home.
Well what we had with Biden wasn't working so hopefully this will be a little pain in the beginning for much better later. I don't see how it could be anything but this after the flow of "free" money being spent by the last admin.
(note: I will cross post this to the Trump Thread since he's the subject here)
I don't think the numbers support your claim about Biden, but here we are again with the pain talking point. I don't think Trump himself knows what he means by that, but I am certain his surrogates don't know either.
What exactly will be causing this pain that Trump say people understand and are willing to accept? Americans have historically been willing to sacrifice for the greater good, once the reason is explained, but Trump never did that. It could be the tariffs, bur his stated reason for the tariffs changed on a daily basis.
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Trump made the claim on Saturday as he announced 25% tariffs against Mexico that the US said were a response to illegal immigration and the intolerable alliance between Mexico and drug cartels.
I'm sure lots of people would have a problem feeling the pain that ensued after he accused the Mexican government of being in cahoots with a drug cartel. But the whole thing is now "paused", I guess because they never considered the possible consequences? It almost like he said told the American people their pain will be caused by Trump's p*ss poor planning?
(note: I will cross post this to the Trump Thread since he's the subject here)
I don't think the numbers support your claim about Biden, but here we are again with the pain talking point. I don't think Trump himself knows what he means by that, but I am certain his surrogates don't know either.
What exactly will be causing this pain that Trump say people understand and are willing to accept? Americans have historically been willing to sacrifice for the greater good, once the reason is explained, but Trump never did that. It could be the tariffs, bur his stated reason for the tariffs changed on a daily basis.
I'm sure lots of people would have a problem feeling the pain that ensued after he accused the Mexican government of being in cahoots with a drug cartel. But the whole thing is now "paused", I guess because they never considered the possible consequences? It almost like he said told the American people their pain will be caused by Trump's p*ss poor planning?
Yes. The pain is unnecessary but the billionaires want what they want and we must suffer for them to achieve their goals...according to the cult. They are lined up to suffer so the billionaires can have what they want.
What is wrong with conservative Americans? Did years of right-wing propaganda make them dumb?
A country led by an accused criminal, bombs the snot out of region, killing >46,000 people, including 18,000 children, and leveling homes, schools and hospitals. Then, a close ally of that leader says to "clean out" that region, suggesting they be absorbed by other countries. You know, move out the Palestinians from Palestine, their ancestral home.
That sounds like ethnic cleansing to me.
Al-Jazeera, which as I'm sure you know, presents news from an Arab perspective mostly but is pretty balanced is calling it that too.
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World reaction to Trump's 'take over' and ethnic cleansing plan for Gaza
Trump destabilizes global politics with his mentally ill blathering and his fan base thinks he's brilliant because of the chaos. We wouldn't be able to write fiction this weird because no one would buy it.
A country led by an accused criminal, bombs the snot out of region, killing >46,000 people, including 18,000 children, and leveling homes, schools and hospitals. Then, a close ally of that leader says to "clean out" that region, suggesting they be absorbed by other countries. You know, move out the Palestinians from Palestine, their ancestral home.
That sounds like ethnic cleansing to me.
I missed the part where killing 46000 people and leveling schools, homes, and hospitals was proposed.
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Beerman said:
Joy Reid went on a 2 to 3 minute rant comparing Trump to Hitler. So, I can only imagine what kind of "ethnic cleansing ' talk is going on elsewhere.
The crazy rhetoric won't be going away anytime soon.
Crazy rhetoric is the normal in Trumplandia, I can't imagine that a little more Crazy talk on media platforms that you don't frequent will be too bothersome for you. Maybe you prefer Crazy talk about eating pets and giant water faucets and making Canada a state?
Hitler comparisons are expected when discussing fascists and fascism. That seems obvious.
Beerman said:
I missed the part where killing 46000 people and leveling schools, homes, and hospitals was proposed.
I missed the part where killing 46000 people and leveling schools, homes, and hospitals was proposed.
It wasn't proposed, Bibi did that. He claimed that Hamas was hiding in tunnels where the ill and injured, and children were concentrated. He prevented humanitarian aid from entering the area and let children starve.
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I know it doesn't include asking neighboring countries to take in legal refugees. Perhaps you don't understand?