I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
Not only that but people that committed violent acts that day. The blanket pardon is his attempt to rewrite history by first promoting the lie that he won the election so it was a "beautiful day" and that the people were "hostages". I wonder if some part of him feels guilty that people were rotting in jail because of him or if his twisted mind actually has convinced himself of this alternative reality,
Former DC police officer Michael Fanone who was attacked that day and suffered the consequences said "My country betrayed me"...not Trump but the country that elected him (he won the election and the popular vote...what about BLM matters violence!).
Not only that but people that committed violent acts that day. The blanket pardon is his attempt to rewrite history by first promoting the lie that he won the election so it was a "beautiful day" and that the people were "hostages". I wonder if some part of him feels guilty that people were rotting in jail because of him or if his twisted mind actually has convinced himself of this alternative reality,
Former DC police officer Michael Fanone who was attacked that day and suffered the consequences said "My country betrayed me"...not Trump but the country that elected him (he won the election and the popular vote...what about BLM matters violence!).
Despite what liberal media and the ladies of The View would have other members here believe, Trump's pardon had nothing to do with the sexual exploitation charges of one of the protesters. That man was charged with that crime 4 1/2 years ago and a Google search diesnt reflect thst he was ever convicted. Even if he was, Trump's pardon wouldn't affect that case.
Also, he hadn't yet been convicted on the Jan 6 charges either.
I'm always cautious to share my opinion by piggybacking on the post of a a member who has been proven uncredible time and time again.
I've already said that I believe the blanket pardon was wrong. However, on the flip side, there is an age-old debate about it's better 10 guilty go free then 1 innocent be punished. We do know that were some whose punishment was more severe then they deserved. I linked the story about one, which interestingly but not surprisingly has been ignored by the Trump critics here.
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Tweety said:
Not only that but people that committed violent acts that day. The blanket pardon is his attempt to rewrite history by first promoting the lie that he won the election so it was a "beautiful day" and that the people were "hostages". I wonder if some part of him feels guilty that people were rotting in jail because of him or if his twisted mind actually has convinced himself of this alternative reality,
Former DC police officer Michael Fanone who was attacked that day and suffered the consequences said "My country betrayed me"...not Trump but the country that elected him (he won the election and the popular vote...what about BLM matters violence!).
It's all part of that Trump propaganda about the 2020 election and his efforts to steal the presidency. There's no way that Trump felt any type of empathy for those criminals. He's simply fortifying the lies and propaganda for his supporters. His mind is definitely twisted. The twists are likely all about the next lie or scam idea bubbling around under that weird hair.
Despite what liberal media and the ladies of The View would have other members here believe, Trump's pardon had nothing to do with the sexual exploitation charges of one of the protesters. That man was charged with that crime 4 1/2 years ago and a Google search diesnt reflect thst he was ever convicted. Even if he was, Trump's pardon wouldn't affect that case.
Also, he hadn't yet been convicted on the Jan 6 charges either.
I'm always cautious to share my opinion by piggybacking on the post of a a member who has been proven uncredible time and time again.
I've already said that I believe the blanket pardon was wrong. However, on the flip side, there is an age-old debate about it's better 10 guilty go free then 1 innocent be punished. We do know that were some whose punishment was more severe then they deserved. I linked the story about one, which interestingly but not surprisingly has been ignored by the Trump critics here.
I don't watch the View so I don't know if they talked about the incident of the sexual predator and I made no comment about it (other than "not only that") and went on another tangent. I don't consume "liberal media". Mainstream media isn't covering the story. I've been watching network news and local news since my best friend moved here after the hurricanes and I still consume NPR and BBC. No mention of a sexual predator.
I hit like on the article you posted but didn't feel the need to comment. People with harsh sentences or those that were just trespassing but committed no violence or destruction I have no problem with them being pardoned. In another thread I mentioned that I wouldn't have been bothered by most of the pardons. There's no need to debate about letting 10 guilty people go free to save an innocent. You saw the same footage I saw and I'm glad you don't support the blanket pardons, I noted this the first time you posted that. Those people are free. It was not a beautiful day and they weren't hostages,
It's all a done deal and he won the election and the popular vote.
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Tweety said:
Those people are free. It was not a beautiful day and they weren't hostages
I imagine that Trump getting those criminals out as a priority sends a message to other angry Trump supporters who might decide to take aggressive action on Trump's behalf. These are perilous times.
That's correct. Obvious corruption and mental illness doesn't matter to republican voters.
Yes. Trump the great cult leader suffering from cognitive decline and mental illness was able to sway more than half the country to vote for him. You mean the American People.
That's correct. Obvious corruption and mental illness doesn't matter to republican voters.
Yes. Trump the great cult leader suffering from cognitive decline and mental illness was able to sway more than half the country to vote for him. You mean the American People.
The issue is Gaza is a SEASIDE location, ripe for redevelopment by the Trump family and allies FOR the wealthy if Palestinians repatriated to Egypt, Jordan and other countries.
Yes, Gaza will need to be redeveloped -- but should not be for the rich/wealthy to benefit while those who've lived there for decades denied opportunity to rebuild.
K. Where's the "ethnic cleansing "? This is property and land. Not ethnic cleansing.
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nursej22 said:
Sounds like ethnic cleansing.
Absolutely. I should probably just give up on the hope than someone in the media will say to him, no no-- you need to "get into it" when you say this:
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Open borders with people pouring in. Some of whom, I won't get into it, but you can look at them and you can say, 'Could be trouble, could be trouble,’
Now, obviously "open borders with people pouring in" is a lie he's told so often it doesn't really stand out anymore, but the knowing if they could be trouble by the way they look? Next step is secret police and perhaps worse than that. Maybe he had the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers released for reasons he can't get into right now?
Absolutely. I should probably just give up on the hope than someone in the media will say to him, no no-- you need to "get into it" when you say this:
Now, obviously "open borders with people pouring in" is a lie he's told so often it doesn't really stand out anymore, but the knowing if they could be trouble by the way they look? Next step is secret police and perhaps worse than that. Maybe he had the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers released for reasons he can't get into right now?
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Not only that but people that committed violent acts that day. The blanket pardon is his attempt to rewrite history by first promoting the lie that he won the election so it was a "beautiful day" and that the people were "hostages". I wonder if some part of him feels guilty that people were rotting in jail because of him or if his twisted mind actually has convinced himself of this alternative reality,
Former DC police officer Michael Fanone who was attacked that day and suffered the consequences said "My country betrayed me"...not Trump but the country that elected him (he won the election and the popular vote...what about BLM matters violence!).