I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
Trump isn't just a better choice, he has a proven fact that he protected America, we had ZERO wars. The econ was booming, we were exporting our oil and making billion$. But when kamala and old joe came in, they closed pipelines, they began buy OIL from our enemies, even begging dictator maduro to sell him oil. Slowly but surely kamala and joe to us into high inflation, sky rocking food prices, gas, and mortgage rates shot up. I can go on and on, but you're too imbedded in being a democrat. Don't you find it insulting that kamala voted for California to allow trans surgeries for convicted felons and then have these men moved into women's prisons? And all of it is paid by CA taxpayers. Sad
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Crusades said:
Whats his "un-American " ideas?
Terminating parts of the constitution is an example of an un-American idea. That's not enough to convince you, I know. Regardless, it's a really good example of the un-American thinking that makes Trump unfit for the presidency.
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BelDym said:
Trump isn't just a better choice, he has a proven fact that he protected America, we had ZERO wars. The econ was booming, we were exporting our oil and making billion$. But when kamala and old joe came in, they closed pipelines, they began buy OIL from our enemies, even begging dictator maduro to sell him oil. Slowly but surely kamala and joe to us into high inflation, sky rocking food prices, gas, and mortgage rates shot up. I can go on and on, but you're too imbedded in being a democrat. Don't you find it insulting that kamala voted for California to allow trans surgeries for convicted felons and then have these men moved into women's prisons? And all of it is paid by CA taxpayers. Sad
How embarrassing for you that Trump didn't protect Americans from Covid for a year and a few hundred thousand died because of Trump's lies and misinformation about covid.
The USA produces more oil now than any other time in history.
Thank you for not going on and on with right wing misinformation.
I find it insulting that Trump inspires so many people to say so many horrible things about other people. His rally the other day showed us the ugliness that he inspires and normalizes.
Trump isn't just a better choice, he has a proven fact that he protected America, we had ZERO wars.
(With credit to John Fugelsang)
Trump massively increased the U.S. defense budget. He quickly escalated our existing wars in multiple theaters, which led to skyrocketing casualties.
Trump sent MORE troops to Afghanistan, ordered missile strikes on Syria in 2017 and 2018 & abandoned our Kurdish allies to slaughter.
In Afghanistan, he substantially increased the airstrikes, leading to a 330 % increase in civilian deaths. He bragged about dropping of the "Mother of All Bombs" (MOAB), the largest non-nuclear bomb in the US arsenal, on Afghanistan in 2017.
Trump also tore up a peace deal with Iran, which our own generals uniformly maintained Iran was honoring .
Trump pardoned convicted war criminals, assassinated Iran's top general, and ordered an attack on the Syrian govt. 6. Trump sent troops to take Syria's oil — openly admitting he wanted to give the reserves to ExxonMobil. "We're keeping the oil. I've always said that. We want to keep the oil. Forty-five million dollars a month? Keep the oil."
In Iraq and Syria alone, Trump's drone strikes killed an estimated 13,400 civilians.
Trump carried out more airstrikes against Somalia than Obama did; Trump sold unguided "dumb" bombs to the Saudis to use against Yemen.
Trump negotiated to give Afghanistan to the Taliban, & freed 5,000 Taliban terrorists, which turned out just great.
How embarrassing for you that Trump didn't protect Americans from Covid for a year and a few hundred thousand died because of Trump's lies and misinformation about covid.
The USA produces more oil now than any other time in history.
Thank you for not going on and on with right wing misinformation.
I find it insulting that Trump inspires so many people to say so many horrible things about other people. His rally the other day showed us the ugliness that he inspires and normalizes.
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Crusades said:
How did Trump cause 100 thousands covid deaths?
Covid caused the deaths, Trump's reckless lies and disinformation about covid influenced the behaviors of Americans who then behaved recklessly during a pandemic. I think that's a silly question when you know that Trump was the largest single source of misinformation about covid while simultaneously mismanaging the federal response.
Covid caused the deaths, Trump's reckless lies and disinformation about covid influenced the behaviors of Americans who then behaved recklessly during a pandemic. I think that's a silly question when you know that Trump was the largest single source of misinformation about covid while simultaneously mismanaging the federal response.
Okay. So he caused people to be reckless and that's what caused the covid deaths? Do you have some data that points out just how many covid deaths were due to Trump "recklessness" and how many were not? This is complete speculation because there is no evidence or actual objective way to back up "Trump caused 100 thousands of covid deaths".
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Gee, those of us in this thread who read and watch the good old evening news, 60 minutes and Sunday political shows are well aware of Trumps military actions posted by nursej22, MSN, RN --all within the last 8 years. Gotta keep up with us AN oldtimers.
He vowed to bring "endless wars" to a close, "rebuild" the fighting forces and compel allies to pay their fair share, saying the U.S. would no longer be "suckers." ...Still, Trump was unable to end those endless wars. He leaves a military that is still fighting and advising in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq and Yemen, though in smaller numbers.
Still, Trump was unable to end those endless wars. He leaves a military that is still fighting and advising in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq and Yemen, though in smaller numbers.
...The US military has, overall, carried out 439 aerial attacks in 2021, a 54% drop from the year before under former President Donald Trump, Airwars data showed.
The group said the biggest drop came in Yemen, where there were no officially declared strikes in 2021, compared to 18 in 2020. Airstrikes also fell by 88% in Somalia, where the US has for years fought an al-Qaeda linked insurgency, as well as 71% in Iraq and Syria, reflecting the military defeat of the Islamic State
The statistics for the entirety of Donald Trump's time in office are nearly all compiled. As we did for his predecessor four years ago, we present a final look at the numbers.
The economy lost 2.7 million jobs. The unemployment rate increased by 1.7 percentage points to 6.4%.
Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8.4% after inflation.
After-tax corporate profits went up, and the stock market set new records. The S&P 500 index rose 67.8%.
The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 36.3% from 2016.
The number of people lacking health insurance rose by 3 million.
The federal debt held by the public went up, from $14.4 trillion to $21.6 trillion.
Home prices rose 27.5%, and the homeownership rate increased 2.1 percentage points to 65.8%.
Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.
Coal production declined 26.5%, and coal-mining jobs dropped by 25%. Carbon emissions from energy consumption dropped 11.3%.
Handgun production rose 12.5% last year compared with 2016, setting a new record.
The murder rate last year rose to the highest level since 1997.
Trump filled one-third of the Supreme Court, nearly 30% of the appellate court seats and a quarter of District Court seats....
...In 2018 and '19, Trump authorized payments to U.S. farmers of $28 billion to offset their losses from Chinese trade retaliation. This year, with farmers struggling under the twin crises of the trade war and the pandemic, bailouts have soared way higher. Trump promised angry farmers another $19 billion in April and $14 billion in September—bringing his bailouts to a grand total of $61 billion. He has pledged to continue these bailouts until the trade war ends....
Tariffs are basically a tax on imported goods produced in foreign countries. The U.S. federal government can apply tariffs to foreign goods imported into the U.S. and other countries can apply tariffs to U.S. goods exported to foreign countries.
Levying tariffs increases the risk of foreign countries doing the same to American goods in retaliation, which could spark a trade war then felt by everyday Americans.
Beginning in 2018, Trump's presidential administration levied a series of tariffs amounting to $80 billion in new taxes, according to a study by the Tax Foundation, a nonpartisan think tank. Biden kept most of those tariffs in place, and added more on Chinese imports, adding $3.6 billion in new taxes.
As a result, the Tax Foundation analysis found the average U.S. household paid $200 to $300 more in taxes annually....
Trump has signaled that he intends to use heavy, widespread tariffs to raise enough government revenue to make up for significant deficits caused by policies like corporate tax cuts. That's highly unlikely to work, economists said.
"It's not going to be a very good source of revenue and I think that's what's been lost in discussion around this election,” said economist Joshua Mask, an assistant professor at Temple University.
America's GDP is too large to subsidize any significant loss of revenue by levying tariffs, Mask said.
In the U.S., tariffs have traditionally been applied to foreign countries whose imports could threaten American production, Mask said.
"What we've seen happen in the last 20 years, they're typically employed as a micro-protectionist strategy, protecting certain industries,” Mask said
How do tariffs affect prices?
Businesses made to pay tariffs may pass that cost down to the consumer.
"If that importer is bringing in something that I as an American consumer buy everyday, and I don't have an option to buy from a domestic producer, then I'm going to have to pay the full tax,” Mask said.
How can tariffs impact Pennsylvania's economy?
The first tariffs Trump levied, and which Biden initially kept but then changed and effectively decreased, were on steel and aluminum. The steel industry has meant a lot to parts of Western Pennsylvania....
In response to U.S. tariffs in 2018, Canada, China, the European Union, India, Mexico, and Turkey retaliated by levying new, or increasing existing, tariffs on American agricultural products....
...Boyer once marveled at how he could ship and sell Pennsylvania-grown apples from a port in Philadelphia across the world to India. But he hasn't sold a load to India since 2018 when the south Asian nation issued retaliatory tariffs.
"Tariffs, they're a slow burn,” Boyer said. "It will hurt guys,” he added. "It'll cripple things.”
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Crusades said:
Okay. So he caused people to be reckless and that's what caused the covid deaths? Do you have some data that points out just how many covid deaths were due to Trump "recklessness" and how many were not? This is complete speculation because there is no evidence or actual objective way to back up "Trump caused 100 thousands of covid deaths".
What misinformation did he say?
I was thinking about providing you with a serious answer to your question about data points, and then I got to that disingenuous bit about "misinformation did he say" and realized that would be a silly thing for me to do because you aren't serious at all.
I was thinking about providing you with a serious answer to your question about data points, and then I got to that disingenuous bit about "misinformation did he say" and realized that would be a silly thing for me to do because you aren't serious at all.
I an serious. Omit the misinformation. If you have data beyond speculation that it was Trump that caused people to be reckless, leading to a high number of covid deaths, please do share.
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Trump isn't just a better choice, he has a proven fact that he protected America, we had ZERO wars. The econ was booming, we were exporting our oil and making billion$. But when kamala and old joe came in, they closed pipelines, they began buy OIL from our enemies, even begging dictator maduro to sell him oil. Slowly but surely kamala and joe to us into high inflation, sky rocking food prices, gas, and mortgage rates shot up. I can go on and on, but you're too imbedded in being a democrat. Don't you find it insulting that kamala voted for California to allow trans surgeries for convicted felons and then have these men moved into women's prisons? And all of it is paid by CA taxpayers. Sad