I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
Wow. Team Trump is either bad at logistics or they are too cheap to pay for transportation away from the rally, or maybe both. I think both. This isn't the first time Team Trump has stranded fans and it's not the first time that their logistics have been found wanting.
Trump doesn't care about rally-goers, and he certainly doesn't care about voters in California. He craves the adulation of crowds wants to brag about attendance. Coachella is famous for music festivals and he wants to say his attendance was higher. It doesn't matter if it's truthful, as long as people know he was there.
He has a rally planned for Madison Square Garden, not to convince voters, because he surely won't win the majority vote in NY, but for the spectacle. I hope MSG gets their rental fee up front.
Trump doesn't care about rally-goers, and he certainly doesn't care about voters in California. He craves the adulation of crowds wants to brag about attendance. Coachella is famous for music festivals and he wants to say his attendance was higher. It doesn't matter if it's truthful, as long as people know he was there.
He has a rally planned for Madison Square Garden, not to convince voters, because he surely won't win the majority vote in NY, but for the spectacle. I hope MSG gets their rental fee up front.
Where in any of that means that it was Trump's fault? The busses are managed by a transport contractor. It's not like Trump was diving busses himself. And it says nothing about non payment.
Or is it his fault because he shouldn't campaine in bad weather?
This is a ridiculous deflect from the media source trying to deflect from the large amount of people who showed up. at his rally in a key battleground state.
And of course to deflect the potential 3rd assanation attempt.
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Crusades said:
Where in any of that means that it was Trump's fault? The busses are managed by a transport contractor. It's not like Trump was diving busses himself. And it says nothing about non payment.
Or is it his fault because he shouldn't campaine in bad weather?
This is a ridiculous deflect from the media source trying to deflect from the large amount of people who showed up. at his rally in a key battleground state.
And of course to deflect the potential 3rd assanation attempt.
It was a Trump campaign event. The Trump campaign arranged the transport for the rally goers. This logistics failure is further evidence of his incompetent leadership.
It's funny that you believe it's not news worthy that a large number of Trump supporters were stranded by the guy with no empathy and that the media should focus instead upon Trump's crowd size.
Tell me, if that really was an assassination attempt by that armed Trump supporter, why was he released? Do you have some additional information?
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Crusades said:
The only "tropes being casually thrown arround" is by you. No one ever made reference to them except you. You didn't have something to "call out" in the first place. You chose to insert race and gender for reasons ypu only know. I suspect to exploit it.
Harris is capable and competent to run in the election regardless of her immutable characteristics. She is a human candidate, not a black/Indian with female genitals wanting to be the POTUS.
Oh. Now you are blatantly suggesting that I'm using "casual racism" in my political discussions when I have said nothing related to race or gender? However you constantly do.
Double down on what? Exactly? That I do not consider race or gender a qualifying factor in how I view people and form opinions about? Do you?
Baloney. Why would you suggest that the well qualified candidate isn't running her own campaign? What reasonable or rational justification is there for that?
Harris is a black/Indian female running for the presidency. You don't get to define who she is, she does. That's another way that people try to marginalize minorities; by telling them who they are and how they may identify.
Double down on the casual misogyny and racism, like you just did. You just tried to explain it away and make it sound reasonable.
Baloney. Why would you suggest that the well qualified candidate isn't running her own campaign? What reasonable or rational justification is there for that?
Harris is a black/Indian female running for the presidency. You don't get to define who she is, she does. That's another way that people try to marginalize minorities; by telling them who they are and how they may identify.
Double down on the casual misogyny and racism, like you just did. You just tried to explain it away and make it sound reasonable.
I suggested that she is not running her campaine in the traditional way. She was not elected as the candidate in the primary election. She was inserted in Biden's place. And if she did run in the primary I do not believe she would have got the nomination. Just like she didn't in the 2020 primary. Regardless of her gender or race.
Her gender and race are irrelevant.
Nothing to do with her genitals and race. She can be whatever she wants and is. It seems hard for you to understand that these two immutable characteristics of hers doesn't not bear any significance for me or millions of Americans. And I'll remind you that it was you that brought up her race and gender. By the way. You forgot the Indian part in your original comment.
I didn't say anything about her not being black/indian/woman. I do not care.
What did I say that was "casual racism/misogynist "? I've said nothing about her race or gender.
Again. It was you that brought up her gender and race, not me. In an attempt to exploit it and casually call me racist/misogynist.
Oh and one more time. I could not care less of what color her skin is or what's in her pants. Why is it so important to ypu?
It was a Trump campaign event. The Trump campaign arranged the transport for the rally goers. This logistics failure is further evidence of his incompetent leadership.
It's funny that you believe it's not news worthy that a large number of Trump supporters were stranded by the guy with no empathy and that the media should focus instead upon Trump's crowd size.
Tell me, if that really was an assassination attempt by that armed Trump supporter, why was he released? Do you have some additional information?
It was a Trump campaign event. The Trump campaign arranged the transport for the rally goers. This logistics failure is further evidence of his incompetent leadership.
It's funny that you believe it's not news worthy that a large number of Trump supporters were stranded by the guy with no empathy and that the media should focus instead upon Trump's crowd size.
Tell me, if that really was an assassination attempt by that armed Trump supporter, why was he released? Do you have some additional information?
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Crusades said:
I suggested that she is not running her campaine in the traditional way. She was not elected as the candidate in the primary election. She was inserted in Biden's place. And if she did run in the primary I do not believe she would have got the nomination. Just like she didn't in the 2020 primary. Regardless of her gender or race.
Her gender and race are irrelevant.
Nothing to do with her genitals and race. She can be whatever she wants and is. It seems hard for you to understand that these two immutable characteristics of hers doesn't not bear any significance for me or millions of Americans. And I'll remind you that it was you that brought up her race and gender. By the way. You forgot the Indian part in your original comment.
I didn't say anything about her not being black/indian/woman. I do not care.
What did I say that was "casual racism/misogynist "? I've said nothing about her race or gender.
Again. It was you that brought up her gender and race, not me. In an attempt to exploit it and casually call me racist/misogynist.
Oh and one more time. I could not care less of what color her skin is or what's in her pants. Why is it so important to ypu?
Why would you care about a traditional candidate or traditional campaign when you support the least traditional of any candidate or any campaign? Do you think it's traditional to try to over throw our elections or to elevate people with no experience into the highest offices? Your worries about traditional candidates and campaigns is a silly excuse.
Your criticisms of Harris seem to have nothing to do with her actual capacities and capabilities as a strong candidate and is typical of racist and misogynistic attacks. They are so generally derisive, not specifically critical... as racism and misogyny generally present in casual conversation. It's casually racist to suggest that the can person of color just isn't qualified for some fickle reason. For Obama it was his birthplace.
It's cute that you think you can convince people that if you don't mention a person's race or gender that you can't possibly be engaging in racism or misogyny. Is that naivety?
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Crusades said:
Right. So I organize a dinner function. I contract the catering. They mess up. My fault?
Maybe I would be concerned if it could be determined that it was Trump's fault. It's like saying Trump caused the bad weather by being in Nevada.
Nice deflect. There was more people than anyone would have predicted in this key battle ground state. This is the main problem. To deflect from that.
Right.
You organize a dinner at a distant restaurant and arrange to get your guests to the dinner by shuttle bus. Then after dinner you leave on your plane and let your guests walk back to their cars which are parked miles away. They walk because you didn't arrange for or pay for enough resources to get them all back as quickly as they arrived. The best part is that in this scenario, you had done this before, shuttling guests to dinner and then stranding them there in the cold without transportation.
You aren't very good at making excuses for Trump's deplorable behavior.
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Beerman said:
LOL....I guess you could say it's a comparison to how Biden managed the Afghanistan withdrawal. 🤣
The withdrawal that Trump's administration planned with the taliban and executed according to Trump's negotiated time-line? That one? Hey, just for giggles, do you have any idea how many special visas Mike Pompeo and Trump's state department processed for Afghanistan allies in 2020 to prepare for the withdrawal or do you know if they expedited anything about that Trump negotiated withdrawal? Do you know if Pompeo slowed that SIV process in the Trump administration?
It's funny that Trump takes credit for Obama's economy but not for the military withdrawal that he negotiated and planned himself.
You organize a dinner at a distant restaurant and arrange to get your guests to the dinner by shuttle bus. Then after dinner you leave on your plane and let your guests walk back to their cars which are parked miles away. They walk because you didn't arrange for or pay for enough resources to get them all back as quickly as they arrived. The best part is that in this scenario, you had done this before, shuttling guests to dinner and then stranding them there in the cold without transportation.
You aren't very good at making excuses for Trump's deplorable behavior.
Right. I would hold my team accountable for their mistakes. It still wouldn't be my fault.
Ohbandvit seems the deflect has worked.
Were you surprised with the turn out? Does the higher than expected number of people going to Trump's rally in a key swing state worry you? It should.
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Trump doesn't care about rally-goers, and he certainly doesn't care about voters in California. He craves the adulation of crowds wants to brag about attendance. Coachella is famous for music festivals and he wants to say his attendance was higher. It doesn't matter if it's truthful, as long as people know he was there.
He has a rally planned for Madison Square Garden, not to convince voters, because he surely won't win the majority vote in NY, but for the spectacle. I hope MSG gets their rental fee up front.