I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
I don't disagree with you on this. I don't think it's helpful to call everyone a racist, or to speak about ending whiteness. The pendulum is swinging wide.
The way I look at it though, racism is a reality through the history of time. The darker the skin, the greater the oppression and the one race bears the brunt of racism. While things are vastly improved (in this country anyway), it still exists in the structures of our government and culture and society. To overcome that, it will no doubt bend the other way. And that means those who have enjoyed a "position of superiority" will feel it coming back at them. This is hard to accept.
The truth is, human justice will always be imperfect (only Jesus can accomplish!)
Well said. Race and race relations can be complicated.
I've known some racist black people. I've seen the race card conveniently pulled out rather than deal with something they created.
But mostly I've seen them suffer indignities along the way. A coworker said she was in mid-county (mostly white) and was followed around a drug store she went to by the manager. A prominent surgeon walked into a patient's room in scrubs and was told to be sure and clean the bathroom. A coworker was telling me her son was stopped by a cop for something and was glad she trained him on how to act when pulled over. Do white parents teach their kids how to avoid getting killed when pulled over?
Also, I see in the queer community the gay white men who have always been the advantaged both economically and in power positions have to share and step aside and acknowledge their privilege. It can be a little tough. I think I might have told the story about me going to the Pride page here to look up dates and times and the homepage picture was about six people, none of whom was a white cis male. I can understand the feeling of being canceled, but also understand that allowing others in doesn't diminish me or infringe upon me in any way.
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Crusades said:
I said a regulation but not by the government. I then said there is no fees able entity to do it.
How is he racist? Cuz he called supremist "very fine people"? LOL
Some groups and communities have been manipulating and exploited into think everything is racist. Like roads, trees, math punctuality......
I feel absolutely no necessity to try to convince you that Trump is or isn't a racist at this point in the discussion. I do wonder though, what kind of people call white supremacists fine people? Do you think they are fine people? I don't.
Can you explain your silly contention that somewhere roads, trees, math or punctuality are considered racist by some groups or communities? Do you think that racism in the USA is made up and exaggerated like claims that roads or trees are racist is made up?
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Crusades said:
I would agree he has narcissist traits.
Mental illness and personality disorders have qualifying symptoms and require a certain about of symptoms to be present for diagnosis.
We all can have a symptom of a mental illness. Even a few, doesn't make us mentally ill.
Most certainly not to the degree that baloney has speculated Trump's mental status.
Trump has full blown narcissistic personality disorder. This is an interesting read. I'm having trouble quoting from that citation. Maybe you'll read it with an open mind.
I think most of us know that a mental health is a spectrum of wellness just like our physical health, but thanks for the reminder I guess.
I wonder what you base your last statement upon. Have you read the expert opinions or watched and listened to Trump with the intention to assess his cognitive or mental health? Really? Or is it based on your bias and established belief system and feelings?
One thing about Crusades randomly throwing out things does make me do deeper dive.
I know in some circles there are complaints that testing of students is testing from a white point of view and not people of different cultures, including African American.
I also don't have to look up roads. It's legendary around here.
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Tampa's historical documents show that the city saw the area that I-275 would run through as "cancerous.” About six years before I-275 construction would begin plowing through the Black neighborhood between Ybor and Downtown formerly known as "the scrub", the City of Tampa said of the area, "The reconstruction of the area for improved living and additional commercial and industrial enterprise will remove one of the most insidious and cancerous infections in the city.”
Got me thinking about racism and punctuality and I found this:
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In the context of punctuality, nonwhite people are held to a much higher standard here than white counterparts. When a nonwhite person is late — even just one time — their white management and colleagues will constantly bombard them with, "Oh, I guess the stereotype is true, Brown people are always late.” Nonwhite people have to work twice as hard to show up on time so that they are not the subject of white people's racialized expectations of Brown and Black people.
Often, the criteria used to classify neighborhoods was explicitly discriminatory; neighborhoods with high populations of racial and religious minorities as well as immigrants were more likely to be "redlined." As a result, residents in those areas often experienced lower property values, resource investment by cities and wealth accumulation decades into the future.
"We found that previously redlined neighborhoods had consistently lower street tree diversity and were much less likely to have larger, older trees on a site," said Karin Burghardt, lead author of the study and an assistant professor of entomology at UMD. "This is important because the differences in tree size and diversity affect the natural ecological services provided by trees—ultimately impacting the quality of life for residents living nearby."
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Tweety said:
One thing about Crusades randomly throwing out things does make me do deeper dive.
I know in some circles there are complaints that testing of students is testing from a white point of view and not people of different cultures, including African American.
I feel absolutely no necessity to try to convince you that Trump is or isn't a racist at this point in the discussion. I do wonder though, what kind of people call white supremacists fine people? Do you think they are fine people? I don't.
Can you explain your silly contention that somewhere roads, trees, math or punctuality are considered racist by some groups or communities? Do you think that racism in the USA is made up and exaggerated like claims that roads or trees are racist is made up?
That's because he didn't call them white people. Holly heck. The propaganda illness is chronic for ypu.
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Crusades said:
That's because he didn't call them white people. Holly heck. The propaganda illness is chronic for ypu.
Did you forget that he called them fine people? Are you having a moment of confusion? Seems like you are spinning so hard for Trump that you disoriented yourself.
Did you forget that he called them fine people? Are you having a moment of confusion? Seems like you are spinning so hard for Trump that you disoriented yourself.
Are you confused? This is what he said,
"....:there were very fine people on both sides, not the neo-nazis or the white supremist, they should be condemed totally....".
Or are you willfully omitting context and parts of his statement?
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Crusades said:
Are you confused? This is what he said,
"....:there were very fine people on both sides, not the neo-nazis or the white supremist, they should be condemed totally....".
Or are you willfully omitting context and parts of his statement?
LOL
Well, since you complained that Trump didn't call them "white people", I'd say that you are just trying too hard to defend Trump's racist proclivities and should probably slow down a bit so that you don't appear confused. Do you want me to quote your exact words?
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When TWO former Republican Vice-Presidents (Cheney and Pence) won't support the current Republican presidential candidate, one needs to take a second look at Trumps actual policies and actions.
This new ad from the Harris Campaign will run nationally on Fox News and in West Palm Beach (Mar-a-Lago) and Philadelphia (debate) media markets on Tuesday. "The people closest to Trump in his White House have a warning for America: Trump is not fit to be president again.”
Looking forward to tomorrows debate. They've closed down roads and sidewalks around National Constitution Center until Wednesday, otherwise I would have taken a stroll to see activities.
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Trump is again playing his devotees that that mail in voting is fraudulent in Pennsylvania. Trump is already claiming "election fraud" based on an "expert" who appeared on Tucker Carlson's show.
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An interview by Tucker Carlson of an election expert indicates that 20% of the Mail-In Ballots in Pennsylvania are fraudulent. Here we go again! Where is the U.S. Attorney General and FBI to INVESTIGATE? Where is the Pennsylvania Republican Party? We will WIN Pennsylvania by a lot, unless the Dems are allowed to CHEAT. THE RNC MUST ACTIVATE, NOW!
Absentee ballots are available for voters who will be out of their voting district on Election Day or have a medical condition that prevents them from going to their polling place. To vote this way, a person must list the reason they cannot go to their polling place on their ballot application.
No-excuse mail voting — created when the then-Republican-controlled legislature passed Act 77 in 2019 — doesn't have this requirement.
Both applications require that voters provide their name and the address where they are registered to vote. The applications also ask for a driver's license number, identification card number or the last four digits of the voter's Social Security number.
This information is then checked against the state's voter roll to ensure the person applying for a mail ballot is who is registered.
"The ID number they provide is run through the state's driver's license database or other databases to see if you can find a person with the same ID number and birth date, so it ties back to a real person,” said Forrest Lehman, Lycoming County's election director.
Voters return mail ballots to their county election office, either through the mail, drop box, or by returning them in person to the office.
Once a voter has returned their mail ballot to their county election office, a barcode on the outer envelope is scanned into the state's voter roll system to record that it has been received. This step also prevents that voter from returning any other mail ballots or voting in person.
Voters return mail ballots to their county election office, either through the mail, drop box, or by returning them in person to the office.
Once a voter has returned their mail ballot to their county election office, a barcode on the outer envelope is scanned into the state's voter roll system to record that it has been received. This step also prevents that voter from returning any other mail ballots or voting in person.
Ballots are accepted only if they are sent in an official return envelope and within an inner secrecy envelope.
PA ballots are mailed to voters no sooner than 50 days before the election. That's Sept 16 for 2024. They are mailed out by the counties and may be mailed later if the county must wait to finalize the content of the ballot. So how can CURRENT ELECTION ballots be fraudulent?
BIGGEST ISSUE with PA mail ballots: ballots are not opened or counted until 7 a.m. on Election Day. County election staff open and count the ballots in front of observers from political parties and campaigns unlike other states that start counting process upon ballot return. PA republican legislators declined to permit preliminary count which is only released after voting ends on in-person election day.
So don't be surprised when PA vote count not finalized for a few days post November 5th, 2024
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Well said. Race and race relations can be complicated.
I've known some racist black people. I've seen the race card conveniently pulled out rather than deal with something they created.
But mostly I've seen them suffer indignities along the way. A coworker said she was in mid-county (mostly white) and was followed around a drug store she went to by the manager. A prominent surgeon walked into a patient's room in scrubs and was told to be sure and clean the bathroom. A coworker was telling me her son was stopped by a cop for something and was glad she trained him on how to act when pulled over. Do white parents teach their kids how to avoid getting killed when pulled over?
Also, I see in the queer community the gay white men who have always been the advantaged both economically and in power positions have to share and step aside and acknowledge their privilege. It can be a little tough. I think I might have told the story about me going to the Pride page here to look up dates and times and the homepage picture was about six people, none of whom was a white cis male. I can understand the feeling of being canceled, but also understand that allowing others in doesn't diminish me or infringe upon me in any way.
Sorry for the ramble.