I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
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Tweety said:
I think Crusades has claimed that Trump is no more cognitively different than four years ago. I would agree that it is kind of hard to tell since he never has been wrapped too tight in my opinion.
I have a leg up because I'm trained in and worked with psychiatric patients at the very beginning of my career. Trump's mental illness was in evidence in 2020 but the symptoms were more nuanced and subtle. Today he is exhibiting the kind of speech patterns and delusional fixations that I observed in my patients in the regional psychiatric hospital all those years ago.
Today, Trump is clearly mentally ill and is likely suffering from prefrontal dementia. He is unfit for office.
Do you want the government to get involved in deciding what content the private media company should publish? You said the private company is censoring people. Do people have a right to publish their content on a private social media platform?
No. Blatant racism and vulgarity have a huge fan base in the Trump voting base and Trump employs them regularly. Lots and lots of Trump's fan base appear incapable of discerning when Trump's remarks are racist, those comments clearly need a note.
It's my experience that conservatives want to publish nonsense, spin and lies and then claim that they're being censored when the information is identified as false or misleading. Conservative speech shouldn't be synonymous with misinformation.
No absolutely not! Free speech is the freedom to say what you wish without punishment from the government. I would not want the government involved.
It's interesting Harris thinks so. Doesn't cast a good light or distance herself from accusations of being a communist. I wonder if she will elaborate what information she deems acceptable? .
I said some sort of regulation should be in place, just like there is no acceptable entity to determine what speech is allowed and what's not, there is no acceptable entity to regulate platforms either. The only answer falls back to the same idea, all speech must be free.
Blatant racism is never appropriate. However in some circles it's perfectly fine to say that "white people are inheritanly racist" or "ending whitness" but citing Chicago gun crimes is racist. Racism is also used as a weapon.
So. Who decided what's racist and what's not? It's partially subjective but highly exploited.
It's my experience that democrats will jump on/ exploit anything that can be distorted to racism. Like the "Trump said supremist are very fine people ". I notice Democrats have a habit of downplaying and suppress racism by anyone other then their targeted group or person.
You are welcome to ignore the evidence of Trump's cognitive decline and mental illness but your persistence in doing so doesn't make you appear as a center of right individual, especially after your insistence that Biden was too demented to run.
Sure. I will ignore it with the same vigor that you full on deny any cognitive decline in Biden which seems to differ from the majority of your chosen party.
I'll go ahead in your tradition and say anything that contains "verbal vomit" is far left propaganda. Or not a serous reputation source.
I have a leg up because I'm trained in and worked with psychiatric patients at the very beginning of my career. Trump's mental illness was in evidence in 2020 but the symptoms were more nuanced and subtle. Today he is exhibiting the kind of speech patterns and delusional fixations that I observed in my patients in the regional psychiatric hospital all those years ago.
Today, Trump is clearly mentally ill and is likely suffering from prefrontal dementia. He is unfit for office.
He's mentally ill and unfit for office.
Oh. Okay. Well I am a current nurse in a memory care unit and certified in dementia care . So I see marked decline in Biden. However I still will not definitively diagnose Biden. As I'm not qualified to do so.
You should reflect that the area of phycology has evolved since the beginning of your career. Not knowing the actual practice as pertaining to the present day gives you a leg down.
So is it "mental illness" or "frontal lobe dementia "?
People with severe mental illness like you claim Trump has do not just go about daily life. The severity of mental illness you speculate Trump has will almost always develop into phycosis without treatment. Trump's poor verbal skills do not equate to "mental illness" or "dementia". No matter how much you want them to be. Do you have any other actual examples or evidence?
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Crusades said:
No absolutely not! Free speech is the freedom to say what you wish without punishment from the government. I would not want the government involved.
It's interesting Harris thinks so. Doesn't cast a good light or distance herself from accusations of being a communist. I wonder if she will elaborate what information she deems acceptable? .
I said some sort of regulation should be in place, just like there is no acceptable entity to determine what speech is allowed and what's not, there is no acceptable entity to regulate platforms either. The only answer falls back to the same idea, all speech must be free.
Blatant racism is never appropriate. However in some circles it's perfectly fine to say that "white people are inheritanly racist" or "ending whitness" but citing Chicago gun crimes is racist. Racism is also used as a weapon.
So. Who decided what's racist and what's not? It's partially subjective but highly exploited.
It's my experience that democrats will jump on/ exploit anything that can be distorted to racism. Like the "Trump said supremist are very fine people ". I notice Democrats have a habit of downplaying and suppress racism by anyone other then their targeted group or person.
So I guess there is no answers.
First you say that Harris thinks government should be involved and that makes her a communist and then you say that some sort of regulation should be in place. Is that contradictory or are you talking about self imposed regulation?
"Racism is also used as a weapon". That seems like a really big understatement. Don't you think that racism is always used as a weapon? Is there some time when racism is good in a community or group?
Who decides what is racist? Well, we decide individually, for ourselves, of course. Groups and communities and societies form consensus about those type of things. Some groups and communities and societies are more racist than others. That's why some people weren't troubled by Trump thinking that there were fine people on the side of the racists who protested and others were troubled by that.
Right. The very many examples of racist democrats which offset Trump's racism.
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Crusades said:
Sure. I will ignore it with the same vigor that you full on deny any cognitive decline in Biden which seems to differ from the majority of your chosen party.
I'll go ahead in your tradition and say anything that contains "verbal vomit" is far left propaganda. Or not a serous reputation source.
Nah. I fully admit that Biden is old and suffering the normal cognitive decline seen in the normal aging process. The actual available evidence supports that reality. I know that because I watch and listen to him, not partisan pundits and talking heads.
I didn't expect you to watch that video. You're being silly.
First you say that Harris thinks government should be involved and that makes her a communist and then you say that some sort of regulation should be in place. Is that contradictory or are you talking about self imposed regulation?
"Racism is also used as a weapon". That seems like a really big understatement. Don't you think that racism is always used as a weapon? Is there some time when racism is good in a community or group?
Who decides what is racist? Well, we decide individually, for ourselves, of course. Groups and communities and societies form consensus about those type of things. Some groups and communities and societies are more racist than others. That's why some people weren't troubled by Trump thinking that there were fine people on the side of the racists who protested and others were troubled by that.
Right. The very many examples of racist democrats which offset Trump's racism.
I said a regulation but not by the government. I then said there is no fees able entity to do it.
How is he racist? Cuz he called supremist "very fine people"? LOL
Some groups and communities have been manipulating and exploited into think everything is racist. Like roads, trees, math punctuality......
Oh. Okay. Well I am a current nurse in a memory care unit and certified in dementia care . So I see marked decline in Biden. However I still will not definitively diagnose Biden. As I'm not qualified to do so.
You should reflect that the area of phycology has evolved since the beginning of your career. Not knowing the actual practice as pertaining to the present day gives you a leg down.
So is it "mental illness" or "frontal lobe dementia "?
People with severe mental illness like you claim Trump has do not just go about daily life. The severity of mental illness you speculate Trump has will almost always develop into phycosis without treatment. Trump's poor verbal skills do not equate to "mental illness" or "dementia". No matter how much you want them to be. Do you have any other actual examples or evidence?
Trump I believe would fit the description of a narcissistic sociopath, which may or may not be classified as mental illness
Nah. I fully admit that Biden is old and suffering the normal cognitive decline seen in the normal aging process. The actual available evidence supports that reality. I know that because I watch and listen to him, not partisan pundits and talking heads.
I didn't expect you to watch that video. You're being silly.
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Crusades said:
Oh. Okay. Well I am a current nurse in a memory care unit and certified in dementia care . So I see marked decline in Biden. However I still will not definitively diagnose Biden. As I'm not qualified to do so.
You should reflect that the area of phycology has evolved since the beginning of your career. Not knowing the actual practice as pertaining to the present day gives you a leg down.
So is it "mental illness" or "frontal lobe dementia "?
People with severe mental illness like you claim Trump has do not just go about daily life. The severity of mental illness you speculate Trump has will almost always develop into phycosis without treatment. Trump's poor verbal skills do not equate to "mental illness" or "dementia". No matter how much you want them to be. Do you have any other actual examples or evidence?
I've already provided you evidence
Gosh, I stay pretty current in my reading and discussions with friends in the field, but thanks for the suggestion.
Trump definitely has mental illness, the symptoms are pretty straightforward and I have shared the criteria with you previously. He also is experiencing some cognitive changes which seem to be consistent with a dementia, very possibly in the frontotemopral constellation of the disease. I bet you care for some folks with pretty advanced examples of that.
Blatant racism is never appropriate. However in some circles it's perfectly fine to say that "white people are inheritanly racist" or "ending whitness" but citing Chicago gun crimes is racist. Racism is also used as a weapon.
So. Who decided what's racist and what's not? It's partially subjective but highly exploited.
It's my experience that democrats will jump on/ exploit anything that can be distorted to racism. Like the "Trump said supremist are very fine people ". I notice Democrats have a habit of downplaying and suppress racism by anyone other then their targeted group or person.
I don't disagree with you on this. I don't think it's helpful to call everyone a racist, or to speak about ending whiteness. The pendulum is swinging wide.
The way I look at it though, racism is a reality through the history of time. The darker the skin, the greater the oppression and the one race bears the brunt of racism. While things are vastly improved (in this country anyway), it still exists in the structures of our government and culture and society. To overcome that, it will no doubt bend the other way. And that means those who have enjoyed a "position of superiority" will feel it coming back at them. This is hard to accept.
The truth is, human justice will always be imperfect (only Jesus can accomplish!)
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I have a leg up because I'm trained in and worked with psychiatric patients at the very beginning of my career. Trump's mental illness was in evidence in 2020 but the symptoms were more nuanced and subtle. Today he is exhibiting the kind of speech patterns and delusional fixations that I observed in my patients in the regional psychiatric hospital all those years ago.
Today, Trump is clearly mentally ill and is likely suffering from prefrontal dementia. He is unfit for office.
He's mentally ill and unfit for office.