I confess to back pedaling into Trump territory when I wanted to leave discussions about him in the garbage can. My thread on the read-only break room site has 9,600 replies so I thought I'd bring up a new one.
He's not going away.
Haberman's book is out based on interviews. I won't read it, but the excerpts are interesting. Especially what he says about McConnell, a description that's against the Terms of Service here, but I actually don't disagree with. LOL
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“At one point, Trump made a candid admission that was as jarring as it was ultimately unsurprising. ‘The question I get asked more than any other question: “If you had it to do again, would you have done it?”’Trump said of running for president. ‘The answer is, yeah, I think so. Because here’s the way I look at it. I have so many rich friends and nobody knows who they are.’ … Reflecting on the meaning of having been president of the United States, his first impulse was not to mention public service, or what he felt he’d accomplished, only that it appeared to be a vehicle for fame, and that many experiences were only worth having if someone else envied them.”
It's interesting that the main stream media, even left media isn't saying the samething that you seem to be repeating regarding Trump's cognition and mental illness.
Morning Joe, the morning talk/news/opinion show on MSNBC, which is left media was talking about it on Monday. They were the one's that said that Trump's children should intervene. But clearly they are biased, the two main hosts have never liked Trumped, and like some of us are baffled by his power.
Google "Trump is in mental decline" and there are some articles in the mainstream.
Google "Trump has mental illness" and there's isn't as much but it's been talked about for years.
Back to the present, no one is going to dare say Trump isn't fit for office due to his mental capacity. But the silence form the people that three years ago stated "Biden is clearly in mental decline" was deafening, but now they are on the defensive saying he isn't and deflect to Biden and what the Democrats did.
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Besides, many people who have mental illness have very successful lives. How discrimatory.
Agree with the first sentiment. There are plenty of people with bipolar, depression, anxiety for example and mental illness that are highly functioning. There was a nurse, that actually is still posting here, that wrote a blog about her struggles with bipolar. She had to take a time out from nursing and get help (eventually leaving altogether). Often those with illness are the last one's to know what the rest of us are seeing in that they just can't function well in the role and need to regroup.
I don't think it's discriminatory to acknowledge that a person can't function in a certain position, such as "the leader of the free world". Perhaps he can, because he did before, but I'm not comfortable with him for a lot of reasons, his mental capacity is one of them. More important to me right now is his honesty, character and integrity. He's dishonest, has the character of a junior high bully, and has zero integrity, in my opinion and will never understand his appeal and how he got the nomination. I will say that he really isn't an unintelligent person. One doesn't get to be a billionaire and President without some brain power.
I wonder if the republican party would experience something like the phenomenon with Harris of they elevated Haley. The GOP House had a terrible struggle deciding on a SOTH. Do you think that the RNC under Lara Trump's guidance would come to an easy decision?
With so little time they would have to regroup very quickly and get behind one person real fast. I think they would see that.
I think like the malaise we saw with supporting Biden there is an element of that in the Republican Party outside of Trump's ride or die base but they aren't withholding donations or asking him to step down so just talk at this point.
toomuchbaloney said:
I listened to a bit of Trump's interview by Musk on the X platform. Very odd. Trump is old and rambling and there's something off about his speech, it sounds like he's having dental problems.
Not to mention his pathological need to lie and make stuff up.
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Crusades said:
It's interesting that the main stream media, even left media isn't saying the samething that you seem to be repeating regarding Trump's cognition and mental illness.
I would agree that he has narcissist traits but is not suffering from mental illness. Besides, many people who have mental illness have very successful lives. How discrimatory.
I wonder when the GOP is going to urge Trump to step down due to his "cognitive decline" ? When will the media finally admit there is a problem?
That's right! That's what the dems did to Biden. When they couldn't deny it any longer. I don't see the same for Trump.
You've noticed that the media seems to treat Trump differently than other politicians, that's good.
All of a sudden it's discriminatory to point out that a political figure is not cognitively intact or is crazy? That's interesting.
I don't think that the GOP is going to do anything about their crazy candidate because the RNC is run by the crazy guy's family and any GOP members who criticize the cult leader are called rinos and run out of the party. The GOP functions exactly like a cult of personality for Trump and cults never ask the leader to step down.
Trump's malignant NPD will not allow him to step aside and the cult of support in the GOP will not require it to preserve their political party. It's really crazy.
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Tweety said:
With so little time they would have to regroup very quickly and get behind one person real fast. I think they would see that.
I think like the malaise we saw with supporting Biden there is an element of that in the Republican Party outside of Trump's ride or die base but they aren't withholding donations or asking him to step down so just talk at this point.
Not to mention his pathological need to lie and make stuff up.
Of course, by now it's just expected that when Trump is talking he's making stuff up... it's normal for him. It is the most prominent symptom of his sociopathic and narcissistic personality disorder.
You've noticed that the media seems to treat Trump differently than other politicians, that's good.
All of a sudden it's discriminatory to point out that a political figure is not cognitively intact or is crazy? That's interesting.
I don't think that the GOP is going to do anything about their crazy candidate because the RNC is run by the crazy guy's family and any GOP members who criticize the cult leader are called rinos and run out of the party. The GOP functions exactly like a cult of personality for Trump and cults never ask the leader to step down.
Trump's malignant NPD will not allow him to step aside and the cult of support in the GOP will not require it to preserve their political party. It's really crazy.
It's difficult to take your speculation seriously while you still claim Biden has no cognitive decline and is just "old and wise".
It's difficult to take your speculation seriously while you still claim Biden has no cognitive decline and is just "old and wise".
On the other hand it's hard to take your immediate dismissal of any concerns about Trumps mentation when you were so concerned about Biden's.
For others, every time Biden misspoke, stuttered, made a mistake, hesitated it was all evidence of his cognitive decline. Trump rambles, makes stuff up, gets dates and names incorrect, get unhinged on social media and makes words up, and it's silence. I agree with TMB, the right is treating Trump differently.
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Crusades said:
It's difficult to take your speculation seriously while you still claim Biden has no cognitive decline and is just "old and wise".
Oh well. Now you know how I feel about Trump supporters still planning to vote for his corrupt craziness because they believe he's a better choice than any other candidate, including Biden.
The City of Asheville confirmed receipt of a $82,247.60 payment from the Trump campaign, ahead of the former president's Wednesday campaign event in Asheville.
The deposit will cover a two-day rental of the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium, a city-owned building that's part of the Harrah's Cherokee Center complex in downtown Asheville. The auditorium is the smaller of the complex's two venues, with a maximum seating capacity of 2,431, according to the venue website.
Of those funds, $22,500 is the rental amount for the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium event space, according to city spokesperson Kim Miller.
"The remainder of the funds go to cover additional costs such as venue and security staffing, production equipment rental, and exterior items like attendee queue stanchions and related items.” Miller wrote in an email.
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In other cities, including El Paso, Texas, Conway, South Carolina and several places in Montana, the Trump campaign has outstanding invoices. The City of El Paso has one of the largest outstanding invoices, alleging that the Trump campaign owes them more than $500,000 in public safety, maintenance and transit costs associated with a 2019 campaign visit, KTSM reported.
Trump was famous for not paying people for services before he started representing the values of the GOP in politics.
Within months of learning of the withdrawal, prosecutors and FBI agents were blocked by top Justice Department officials from obtaining bank records they believed might hold critical evidence, according to interviews with people familiar with the case as well as documents and contemporaneous notes of the investigation. The case ground to a halt by the fall of 2019 as Trump's then-attorney general, William P. Barr, raised doubts about whether there was sufficient evidence to continue the probe of Trump.
Another case that Trump's DOJ brought to a halt to protect the Don.
Trump's renewed focus on building a false case that Democrats are trying to cheat him — almost four years after his effort to overturn the 2020 election results ended with his supporters storming the Capitol on Jan. 6 to disrupt the certification of the Electoral College votes — speaks to his insecurities, according to people familiar with his behavior, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid retaliation from the most powerful figure in the Republican Party.
Those insecurities aren't about election integrity but rather about his chances of winning — and his frustration at not being the center of the national political discussion at all times, these people said. Some Republicans worry that he has once again become distracted from issues important to voters, including inflation and immigration, as he pursues grievances that don't resonate with swing voters.
"He can't ever be a loser," one former senior Trump adviser said of the former president's push to cast the election as unfair. "He's just going to do anything he can that he knows gives him attention," the former adviser said, explaining that Trump views domination of media coverage as a sign of his political strength.
The crazy guy is running a crazy campaign that isn't very appealing to moderate or independent voters.
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I'm on vacation in Maine. Listened to 1/2 Trumps press conferences, watched tail end. First 5 min were trashing Kamala, again thru out Press briefing. Staff setup visual displays to refer to re food prices ignored. Still had problems with "s" some words. "Rambling" man this week. Didn't give clear answers to reporters questions. Awaiting next week's democratic convention;. Kamala and Walz doing bus tour western PA starting tomorrow so expect him trying to regain spotlight. Very few Trump flags on backroads in Maine compared to upstate, PA. Taken down in my hometown too.
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Morning Joe, the morning talk/news/opinion show on MSNBC, which is left media was talking about it on Monday. They were the one's that said that Trump's children should intervene. But clearly they are biased, the two main hosts have never liked Trumped, and like some of us are baffled by his power.
Google "Trump is in mental decline" and there are some articles in the mainstream.
Google "Trump has mental illness" and there's isn't as much but it's been talked about for years.
Back to the present, no one is going to dare say Trump isn't fit for office due to his mental capacity. But the silence form the people that three years ago stated "Biden is clearly in mental decline" was deafening, but now they are on the defensive saying he isn't and deflect to Biden and what the Democrats did.
Agree with the first sentiment. There are plenty of people with bipolar, depression, anxiety for example and mental illness that are highly functioning. There was a nurse, that actually is still posting here, that wrote a blog about her struggles with bipolar. She had to take a time out from nursing and get help (eventually leaving altogether). Often those with illness are the last one's to know what the rest of us are seeing in that they just can't function well in the role and need to regroup.
I don't think it's discriminatory to acknowledge that a person can't function in a certain position, such as "the leader of the free world". Perhaps he can, because he did before, but I'm not comfortable with him for a lot of reasons, his mental capacity is one of them. More important to me right now is his honesty, character and integrity. He's dishonest, has the character of a junior high bully, and has zero integrity, in my opinion and will never understand his appeal and how he got the nomination. I will say that he really isn't an unintelligent person. One doesn't get to be a billionaire and President without some brain power.