The rules apply...until they don't...

A quick synopsis of some of my frustrations in dealting with rules and those who choose not to abide them. Specialties School Article

Over the past number years, I have encountered an increasing flaunting of policy and rules, both by kids and parents. What changes in school district policy when they move from middle school to high school? Nothing. In my world. In theirs, lots of things!

Cellphones ...

Cellphones are ubiquitous. Even elementary school kids can maneuver a smart phone. This is really mostly since 9/11 and the explosion of technology. But kids have been in public schools for at the very least 150 years, when Massachusetts passed the first laws requiring kids to attend schools. When I started working in public school in 1994, (and having attended public school since 1965), parents were always able to contact the school to get information to a student re pick up., drop off etc. Today kids self-dismiss themselves EVERY SINGLE DAY. They have a little cellular device in their hand they use to bypass the health office and just call for permission to leave. Sometimes they are not sick and sometimes they are. I don’t want them here if they are sick, but I think we would all agree, it is important for the nurse to have an idea about what germs might be floating in the building. Kids seems shocked that I would need to know their business. Parents have emboldened them, for sure. “You just call me, and I’ll come right there and get you!”

There are times when a kid really should see a counselor or an administrator if things are going down. Running away is not the only answer. If there is something contagious going on, it would behoove all of us if I knew about it. I need to have current knowledge of health issues and be able to explain to the next parent that calls looking for info what is actually going on in the building. Like the mom of a kid who has no immune system, They are VERY interested in knowing if there is any influenza in building. Or Measles. Or strep throat. It is important that I be able to assess them. It can actually be an advantage to the child and family when all of a sudden they are missing too much school. I can review my notes and see what my assessment was, as to whether or not they should be in school. I can help them if they are at a precipitous number of days out. Or help them get through the day with a little TLC, or antacids or headache medication.

But not if they are told to “Just call me and I’ll get you”.

The Necessary Forms ...

Students need inhalers and Epi pens and our state and local law allow (as they should) for the students who can, to carry them on their person. Awesome! They eat something with peanuts, they can take care of any reaction almost immediately. The start wheezing when their asthma is exacerbated by dust in the shop area. Yes! Poof! 2 puffs of their MDI and they are feeling much better. But there are rules around this. The rules include an ANNUAL medication form and asthma action plan. The very same form they needed in 1st grade, or middle school, is the same form they need in high school. Why is it so hard for parents to understand that? They are emailed in the spring with the form attached, asking they be taken care of over the summer. I will even fax the form with the parent signature to the MD, if the child is current and not in need of a visit, to make it easier (on the parent, not me). What changes for the parent that these forms are no longer of any importance? Why is the annual contact information form so difficult to fill out and give back to the child? Why do I have to connect with the child 5, 6 or 7 times? Why is the form ignored when mailed home with a return self-addressed stamped envelope???? Just do it!

Injuries and Policies ...

And the last of this article is when parents, adults who are entrusted to protect their OWN children, work really hard to bypass a policy in favor of a game. Yep, I’m talking concussions here. Your child was observed when they got hit. They came off the field and were clearly showing signs of a mTBI, because that is in fact, what a concussion is, a mild traumatic brain injury. It is not just getting their bell rung. There is a reason why kids should NOT be retaking any repeat neurocognitive testing while they are still symptomatic, ya know? They need to rest their head for a bit to allow it to heal.

But, wait!! The next game is Homecoming, or a tournament game or the big D1 scouts are going to be there…That is when parents (mostly) and kids lose their absolute minds. I think coaches are better than they used be...but there is still room for improvement. Parents, who, in a normal conversation about kids and concussions, totally support the school policy (which is based on evidenced based state and national policy).

Until THEIR kiddo is affected. That is when head pain is caused by lack of water or food, fatigue, allergies, you name it, because it couldn’t possibly be linked to the field hockey ball that hit them in the head, could it? Or the head to head contact with another player followed by their head hitting the almost frozen ground. All of this witnessed by the athletic trainer. Nah... And when the policy CLEARLY reads that the clearance to return will release them back to the Return-to-Play process, but it really means full contact on the field, right? It means they should not be observed while gradually increasing their physical activity to see if they if they have recurrence of their symptoms, right? All in the name of keeping their child from pouting and being unhappy. The policy is in place to protect the child. And secondarily, the school district.

I could go on, but this has been the start of my school year. Chasing Kids. Chasing Paperwork. Chasing Common Sense.

The consequence at my school is a court appearance and a fine. Sometimes it helps alleviate the problem, sometimes it does not. However, at least the parents are inconvenienced!!

Specializes in IMC, school nursing.

The hardest part is sitting here watching parents raising children who you know will not fare well as adults if their parents continue taking them out of uncomfortable situations. I fear for our future, because I see far more parents that coddle their children than teach them consequence and fortitude. Being a school nurse is great, but this is the dark side.

Specializes in School Nursing.

I would like to print this in large fond and put it on my bulletin board. Alas..

Specializes in kids.
3 hours ago, Hoosier_RN said:

Y'all make me thankful that I'm not a school nurse. I've almost went that path before, but changed my mind at last minute

This is NOT representive of most parents...and I probably should have made a disclaimer to that effect.? But the frustrations are real! And get magnified when these issues get in the way of all the other stuff happening. I really do love my job!

Specializes in Med-surg, school nursing..

One of my biggest frustrations:

Repeatedly having to assess students and staff who were injured by a student, and no consequences coming to the student who was violent. Parents don't cause much of an uproar because all they know is Sally got hit by Johnny today. They don't know that Johnny also hit Susie, Jimmy, Billy, and Fred today. They don't know that yesterday Johnny threw a chair at the teacher and dragged little Bobby by his hair, but he was still allowed to come to class today. I can guarantee if they did they would raise seven kinds of heck.

Specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing.
2 hours ago, MrNurse(x2) said:

The hardest part is sitting here watching parents raising children who you know will not fare well as adults if their parents continue taking them out of uncomfortable situations. I fear for our future, because I see far more parents that coddle their children than teach them consequence and fortitude. Being a school nurse is great, but this is the dark side.

AMEN. Nutmegg- hang in there! Hugs from the NTX. I know you're not usually the sweat the small stuff kind of school nurse!

43 minutes ago, OyWithThePoodles said:

One of my biggest frustrations:

Repeatedly having to assess students and staff who were injured by a student, and no consequences coming to the student who was violent. Parents don't cause much of an uproar because all they know is Sally got hit by Johnny today. They don't know that Johnny also hit Susie, Jimmy, Billy, and Fred today. They don't know that yesterday Johnny threw a chair at the teacher and dragged little Bobby by his hair, but he was still allowed to come to class today. I can guarantee if they did they would raise seven kinds of heck.

Or the amount of time it takes to put someone on a behavior plan. Or the student is on a behavior plan that isn't working. Because we're worried about FAPE for the one, not the consequences for all...

Specializes in School Nurse/Supervisor.

Excellent article and sadly VERY true! Despite all the frustrations I really like school nursing (on most days?). Over 20 years as a school nurse...and still surviving! :nurse:

Specializes in kids.
1 hour ago, mandm97 said:

Excellent article and sadly VERY true! Despite all the frustrations I really like school nursing (on most days?). Over 20 years as a school nurse...and still surviving! :nurse:

Yup!! The good definitely outweighs the frustrations!!

Specializes in kids.
On 11/4/2019 at 1:16 PM, ruby_jane said:

AMEN. Nutmegg- hang in there! Hugs from the NTX. I know you're not usually the sweat the small stuff kind of school nurse!

You are correct, I'm usually not, but some days....?? LOL!

Specializes in ICU/community health/school nursing.
38 minutes ago, NutmeggeRN said:

You are correct, I'm usually not, but some days....?? LOL!

That day was just working your last nerve. I get it.

What I don't think parents understand is that when they constantly mow the lawn in front of sweet baby, sweet baby doesn't develop real-world practical skills for crisis management, time management, and resilience. Of course, that is tea that no parent wants to drink....

On 11/6/2019 at 8:26 AM, ruby_jane said:

That day was just working your last nerve. I get it.

What I don't think parents understand is that when they constantly mow the lawn in front of sweet baby, sweet baby doesn't develop real-world practical skills for crisis management, time management, and resilience. Of course, that is tea that no parent wants to drink....

OK, I have to ask. FAPE? NTX? mow the lawn?

Specializes in kids.
36 minutes ago, Kooky Korky said:

OK, I have to ask. FAPE? NTX? mow the lawn?

Free, Appropriate, Public Education every child in the United States is entitled to a free appropriate public education from the ages of three until they are 21 years of age.

NTX. I think North Texas