The Kamala Harris Thread

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Democrats are excited about Harris and as of this writing she's raised 100 million dollars since Biden announced he was dropping out and throwing his support behind her.

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"Republicans, I worry, vastly underestimate Kamala Harris. They don't think very highly of her. They don't think she's terribly bright. When you or I bring up Kamala Harris' name in Republican circles, people laugh. It's immediately a punchline," Cruz said Monday on his podcast "Verdict with Ted Cruz." 

Cruz warned against Republicans preemptively celebrating a Trump-Vance win months out from the election, arguing Democrats and the media will promote Harris as an "historic" candidate. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cruz-warns-against-underestimating-harris-dems-pitching-her-mother-teresa-oprah-gandhi-combo

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nursej22 said:

It's called code-switching. 

Thank you.  I'll do a deeper dive.

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Twenty years ago I never thought I would hear the term "code-switching" used as widely as it now is beyond the halls of academe. Code-switching is perhaps best known in reference to alternating between different languages, such as English and Spanish. However, the same concept applies to different dialects of the same language, such as between a standard dialect and a colloquial one. But as glad as I am to see this, my heart sinks at the way people are mocking Vice President Kamala Harris for code-switching according to the audience she is speaking to. Barack Obama attracted criticism for doing the same thing back in the aughts; I hoped we had gotten past this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/15/opinion/harris-code-switch.html

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Crusades said:

I'm not sure if Walz asked her about her favorite meal and he asked if it was fried chicken would go over so easily. But meh, I don't take offence just pointing out the hypocrisy.  (Not referring to you but the general attitude). 

It's important to you that a black woman asked a white man if by white man taco he meant something like tuna fish and mayonnaise. Or is it important that an Indian woman said that?  Because I think if he asked her and she said she liked brown girl tacos and he said; what is that like pulled pork and collar greens they would have laughed at that too. The humor in the Harris campaign is good natured as compared to the humor in her opponent's campaign.  That candidate frequently laughs at the expense of other people, sometimes at the expense of his political allies... because he's a mean spirited, mentally ill sociopath.  

But I get it, team Trump is trying really hard to find something early on to pin on Harris that carries a significant negative clout in the press and with the public.  It's an uphill battle when the Harris/Walz campaign is so upbeat and forward looking and people oriented but Trump's GOP is nothing if not skilled at promoting a false but negative narrative about people and ideas.  

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nursej22 said:

It's called code-switching. 

It always annoys bigots and racists on a subliminal level when POC speak to each other comfortably in languages and dialects that the bigots and racists do not have command of.  Always.  Today, those feelings get amplified in their social media and eight wing echo chamber.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

It's important to you that a black woman asked a white man if by white man taco he meant something like tuna fish and mayonnaise. Or is it important that an Indian woman said that?  Because I think if he asked her and she said she liked brown girl tacos and he said; what is that like pulled pork and collar greens they would have laughed at that too. The humor in the Harris campaign is good natured as compared to the humor in her opponent's campaign.  That candidate frequently laughs at the expense of other people, sometimes at the expense of his political allies... because he's a mean spirited, mentally ill sociopath.  

But I get it, team Trump is trying really hard to find something early on to pin on Harris that carries a significant negative clout in the press and with the public.  It's an uphill battle when the Harris/Walz campaign is so upbeat and forward looking and people oriented but Trump's GOP is nothing if not skilled at promoting a false but negative narrative about people and ideas.  

Yeah....right.... LOL

The only people who care about her race are the left democrats that try to exploit it. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

It always annoys bigots and racists on a subliminal level when POC speak to each other comfortably in languages and dialects that the bigots and racists do not have command of.  Always.  Today, those feelings get amplified in their social media and eight wing echo chamber.  

It's disrespectful and annoys POC that someone who uses their "comfortable language and dialects" to pander and patronize them. 

 

The daughter of a Marxist economist, Kamala Harris, believes the government has the power to take over private companies.

"For any drug where they fail to play by our rules, and if that drug came about from federal funding for what's called 'R and D,’ research and development, I will snatch their patent so that we will take over,” she said. "Yes we can do that! The question is, do you have the will to do it?”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/is-this-even-legal-critics-slam-kamala-harris-over-vow-to-snatch-patents-after-resurfaced-vid-goes-viral/

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Beerman said:

The daughter of a Marxist economist, Kamala Harris, believes the government has the power to take over private companies.

"For any drug where they fail to play by our rules, and if that drug came about from federal funding for what's called 'R and D,’ research and development, I will snatch their patent so that we will take over,” she said. "Yes we can do that! The question is, do you have the will to do it?”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/is-this-even-legal-critics-slam-kamala-harris-over-vow-to-snatch-patents-after-resurfaced-vid-goes-viral/

A Marxist economist...Oh no... this will really inflame the folks who would rather live in a right wing autocracy with Trump in a position safely immune from the laws.  Thanks for sharing.  

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Marxian economists aren't necessarily pro-dictatorship or communists, but study some of the inherent problems with capitalism.  I might lean some that way myself when I look at the cost of healthcare/drugs/testing here compared to other countries, the tax burden on the middle class, the high profits and high CEO salaries during times of inflation, etc.    But I am all for capitalism at the end of the day, but we can do better.

Apparently, and I need to do a deeper dive, when Harris's father advised his home country it was not communism or Marxism he advised, but even advised tax cuts.

Her anti-big pharma is nothing new obviously.

https://www.pharmavoice.com/news/kamala-harris-pharma-healthcare-president-ira/722189/

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Beerman said:

The daughter of a Marxist economist, Kamala Harris, believes the government has the power to take over private companies.

"For any drug where they fail to play by our rules, and if that drug came about from federal funding for what's called 'R and D,’ research and development, I will snatch their patent so that we will take over,” she said. "Yes we can do that! The question is, do you have the will to do it?”

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/is-this-even-legal-critics-slam-kamala-harris-over-vow-to-snatch-patents-after-resurfaced-vid-goes-viral/

Quite the strawman, there. I didn't see anything in that quote about taking over a company. What I saw was the statement that products developed with taxpayer money will be taken back by those taxpayers if a company does not follow their rules, Don't like the rules, don't take the money.

Try again.

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Crusades said:

It's disrespectful and annoys POC that someone who uses their "comfortable language and dialects" to pander and patronize them. 

 

Ummm ... just what qualifies you to speak for all "POC"?

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Crusades said:

Yeah....right.... LOL

The only people who care about her race are the left democrats that try to exploit it. 

Don't forget exploiting her gender.  We get a two-for-one to exploit.  

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Crusades said:

It's disrespectful and annoys POC that someone who uses their "comfortable language and dialects" to pander and patronize them. 

 

I might agree that Harris doing it on stage is not a good look for her, mainly because it opens her up to attacks and judgement.

I've noticed some African American coworkers code switch when talking amongst themselves as opposed to how they speak to me or patients, so in some cases they don't consider it patronizing.  I imagine if I switched to talking black they would be offended though.

I do the same thing.  I speak differently around a gaggle of gay men than I do out in the world.  

 Off topic, but I've also read that African American workers feel they have to code switch from their natural dialect to talk white in order to get ahead and fit in, and that takes a toll on their mental health since their natural dialect is considered too ghetto for a professional environment.  So there is that.

I've talked to a Jamaican doctor about this a few years ago when I was surprised he was Jamaican when he was talking to a Jamaican nurse.  He said he deliberately lost his accent because people looked at him like he was more professional.

To some extent my German mother who came to America after World War II did this.  She barely has a German accent and it was deliberate on her part to fit in at a time when Germans were Nazi's and the enemy.

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