The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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Xhunter said:

He did go after Hillary but his DOJ couldn't find a thing to prosecute her. 
 

Donald Trump publicly advocated for prosecuting Hillary Clinton, especially during the 2016 presidential campaign, where chants of "Lock her up!” became a hallmark of his rallies. He often criticized Clinton for her use of a private email server during her time as Secretary of State and suggested she had committed crimes.

 

After becoming president, Trump continued to express frustration about Clinton's lack of prosecution. In November 2017, The New York Times reported that Trump had privately pressured then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into appointing a special counsel to investigate Clinton. However, Sessions and other Justice Department officials did not pursue the matter, citing a lack of sufficient evidence and the potential damage to the department's independence.

 

In later statements, former officials, including those from the Justice Department, confirmed that while Trump frequently discussed prosecuting Clinton, his aides and legal advisers dissuaded him, worried that it would look like using the justice system for political purposes. Ultimately, no formal investigation into Clinton was launched during Trump's administration.

Welcome to AN.

That information about Trump's attempts to carry out the investigation was previously presented and ignored. Facts like that about Trump don't matter to his most devoted voters.  

nursej22 said:

I've had a chance to read your attached article. It appears the authors are citing vacancy rates from 2020. Vacancy rates in the Seattle area (closest metropolitan area to me) are 0.9%, far lower than the 9.7% cited in the article. 

9.7% is the national average.

The article also explains, and it's common sense, that some places are in a better situation than others.

Seattle's leaders did a bad job in planning when the tech boom led to rapid growth.  

subee said:

I don't see what the harm is in giving a new house buyer a tax credit to help with a down-payment.  

  

I'm sure you don't. 

What was the harm when the govt started passing out grants like candy and made large loans easy to obtain?

 

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Beerman said:

Seattle's leaders did a bad job in planning when the tech boom led to rapid growth.  

So there is a role for government when it comes to housing?

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https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/01/politics/johnson-chips-act/index.html

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Earlier Friday, Johnson was asked by a reporter from Citrus TV News, "The former president has said that he doesn't support the CHIPS and Sciences Act. You voted against it. If you have a Republican majority in Congress and Trump in the White House, will you guys try to repeal that law?”

"I expect that we probably will, but we haven't developed that part of the agenda yet,” Johnson said. "We've got to get over the election first and that's why we're so happy to be in New York's 22nd. Brandon Williams is one of the most important races in the country and that's why Democrats are spending millions and millions and millions of dollars to try to unseat him.”

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After Williams defended the CHIPS Act, which he described as "hugely impactful here,” Johnson then said, "When you have an issue where consensus is necessary to be built, 'cause different states have different perspectives on these things, you have to have somebody who is a strong advocate for that legislation. People listen to Brandon Williams. If that is an important thing for your district, you need this guy there to make that case.”

Messaging gets messy when the priority is to appease the old guy, not govern for we the people.  

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nursej22 said:

So there is a role for government when it comes to housing?

Of course there is a role. 

And often the govt screws it up.  Bad zoning policy is one area where they screw it up.

A councilman in Seattle a few years back fought against high density housing being built adjacent to a transit center.  He's now the mayor.  Who knows how many other dumb decisions his type have made throughout the years. 

 

 

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Xhunter said:

He did go after Hillary but his DOJ couldn't find a thing to prosecute her. 
 

Donald Trump publicly advocated for prosecuting Hillary Clinton, especially during the 2016 presidential campaign, where chants of "Lock her up!” became a hallmark of his rallies. He often criticized Clinton for her use of a private email server during her time as Secretary of State and suggested she had committed crimes.

 

After becoming president, Trump continued to express frustration about Clinton's lack of prosecution. In November 2017, The New York Times reported that Trump had privately pressured then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into appointing a special counsel to investigate Clinton. However, Sessions and other Justice Department officials did not pursue the matter, citing a lack of sufficient evidence and the potential damage to the department's independence.

 

In later statements, former officials, including those from the Justice Department, confirmed that while Trump frequently discussed prosecuting Clinton, his aides and legal advisers dissuaded him, worried that it would look like using the justice system for political purposes. Ultimately, no formal investigation into Clinton was launched during Trump's administration.

Okay. So. After consulting with his lawyers and administration, they concluded that it wouldn't be worth criminally prosecuting Hillary.  Due to evidence and the implications of criminally prosecuting a political opponent.  

So your comment is a long worded  "Trump didn't prosecute Hillary ". 

This provides a great example of the feined fear that "Trump will weaponize the justice system" as fear mongering hyperbole trash. Apparently he really wanted to but didn't because his administration advised him not to. 

 

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toomuchbaloney said:

Welcome to AN.

That information about Trump's attempts to carry out the investigation was previously presented and ignored. Facts like that about Trump don't matter to his most devoted voters.  

So leaves your "Trump will weaponize the justice system" hyperbolic left propaganda.  

But but but he really will this time..... 

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Crusades said:

 

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Donald J. Trump's campaign successfully sued election officials in Bucks County, Pa., on Wednesday, claiming that voters were improperly turned away while they were waiting in long lines for mail-in ballots.

Bucks County, a crucial battleground north of Philadelphia, had given voters until 5 p.m. on Tuesday to apply in person at county offices for a mail-in ballot. In the lawsuit, the Trump campaign said that some voters were turned away well before the deadline and left without being able to apply for and cast their ballot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/30/us/politics/trump-lawsuit-pennsylvania-mail-in-ballot-voting-bucks-county.html

It makes sense.

"As the world watches the U.S. election unfold, many, especially people in Latin America, believe that Trump is the only option to prevent the decline of American economic power and influence.

Joseph Humire, an expert on Latin America and executive director of the think tank Center for a Secure Society, told Fox News Digital that many Latin Americans hope for a Trump victory on Nov. 5."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ahead-election-what-latin-americans-europeans-think-donald-trump-kamala-harris

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Beerman said:

It makes sense.

"As the world watches the U.S. election unfold, many, especially people in Latin America, believe that Trump is the only option to prevent the decline of American economic power and influence.

Joseph Humire, an expert on Latin America and executive director of the think tank Center for a Secure Society, told Fox News Digital that many Latin Americans hope for a Trump victory on Nov. 5."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ahead-election-what-latin-americans-europeans-think-donald-trump-kamala-harris

I wonder how many of those Latin Americans welcome the tariffs promised by Trump? I

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