The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

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nursej22 said:

A frequent poster on this forum claims that half of the country supports Trump. 

Not even close. 

https://health.ucdavis.edu/vprp/snapshots/wintemute-maga-republicans.pdf

 

Double post

 

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nursej22 said:

A frequent poster on this forum claims that half of the country supports Trump. 

Not even close. 

https://health.ucdavis.edu/vprp/snapshots/wintemute-maga-republicans.pdf

 

This is "MAGA" Republicans. Not all Republicans.  Which is a ridiculous fallacy because how does one determine who is a MAGA and who isn't? Is there a quantitative measurement other than the democrat qualifier of any conservative they don't like? Seems they called random people and asked them. Real objective.  

Now do the rest of Trump supporters.  

 

Nice try. 

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Crusades said:

Is there a quantitative measurement other than the democrat qualifier of any conservative they don't like? Seems they called random people and asked them. Real objective.  

Asking random people is exactly how you obtain an objective assessment. 

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Beerman said:

Excellent opinion piece.  Might even help some understand why Trump will win.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2024/10/31/voting-trump-harris-economy-inflation/75836771007/

Sure, I would like prices to go down. Has that ever happened? I've posted before that many of the high prices we pay are not under the control of the government. Eggs were high because of bird flu. Gas prices are coming down and the US is producing record amounts of petroleum products.  There is a severe shortage of housing that drives up prices. Suppliers and vendors of groceries are becoming monopolies, allowing for price gouging. 

The author decries budget deficits, but welcomes tax cuts. That doesn't make any sense. 

Trump is not respected on the world stage. He is a clown, a buffoon, to be manipulated. 

Trump is a criminal and should pay for his transgressions. That's not going to happen if he is elected, and that is the only reason he is running. 

nursej22 said:

Sure, I would like prices to go down. Has that ever happened? I've posted before that many of the high prices we pay are not under the control of the government. Eggs were high because of bird flu. Gas prices are coming down and the US is producing record amounts of petroleum products.  There is a severe shortage of housing that drives up prices. Suppliers and vendors of groceries are becoming monopolies, allowing for price gouging. 

The author decries budget deficits, but welcomes tax cuts. That doesn't make any sense. 

Trump is not respected on the world stage. He is a clown, a buffoon, to be manipulated. 

Trump is a criminal and should pay for his transgressions. That's not going to happen if he is elected, and that is the only reason he is running. 

Some is true, some matter of opinion.  Like budget deficits aren't caused by a lack of taxes coming in, but more to do with the amount govt spends.  So, tax cuts to let people keep more money does make sense.

And, what matters is who is best for us going forward.   

You mentioned housing shortage causing higher prices.  In some circles, the thought of simply building more houses isn't going to help.  There isn't a housing shortage.   There is a shortage of housing for low income folks.  Simply increasing inventory (Kamala's plan) won't solve that according to some, and many believe it isn't even the federal govt's responsibility. 

 

 

 

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nursej22 said:

A frequent poster on this forum claims that half of the country supports Trump. 

Not even close. 

https://health.ucdavis.edu/vprp/snapshots/wintemute-maga-republicans.pdf

 

They are just the squeaker wheel.

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nursej22 said:

Asking random people is exactly how you obtain an objective assessment. 

Right......

Except this is "MAGA " and "MAGA " according to your post is 37.4 % of all Republicans.  "Not even close" to the actual number of Trump supporters.  

 

nursej22 said:

 

 

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nursej22 said:

Sure, I would like prices to go down. Has that ever happened? I've posted before that many of the high prices we pay are not under the control of the government. Eggs were high because of bird flu. Gas prices are coming down and the US is producing record amounts of petroleum products.  There is a severe shortage of housing that drives up prices. Suppliers and vendors of groceries are becoming monopolies, allowing for price gouging. 

The author decries budget deficits, but welcomes tax cuts. That doesn't make any sense. 

Trump is not respected on the world stage. He is a clown, a buffoon, to be manipulated. 

Trump is a criminal and should pay for his transgressions. That's not going to happen if he is elected, and that is the only reason he is running. 

The only reason he's being prosecuted is because he is running. 

Like it or not this little over kill on charging Trump backfired for the democrats. Whether if fits the democrats "no one above the law" concept or not, people see it as political persecution of a political opponent. Not everyone hates Trump enough to overlook that idea. Some feel it they can do it to a former POTUS who can't they do it to? 

Trump could have easily went after Hillary but he did not. Even terrible evil "Hitler" saw the political disadvantage of that. Too bad the democrats could not. That's why they have a good chance of losing. 

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Crusades said:

The only reason he's being prosecuted is because he is running. 

 

Wrong. He was impeached for Jan 6, but the Senate refused to convict. 7 Republicans voted to convict. McConnell said Trump was liable for his conduct and could be charged as a private citizen. Investigation started before he announced he was running. 

He is running to avoid prosecution. He has said he will fire Jack Smith immediately and thus the charges will go away. He has successfully run out the clock. 

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Beerman said:

 

You mentioned housing shortage causing higher prices.  In some circles, the thought of simply building more houses isn't going to help.  There isn't a housing shortage.   There is a shortage of housing for low income folks.  Simply increasing inventory (Kamala's plan) won't solve that according to some, and many believe it isn't even the federal govt's responsibility. 

There is a housing shortage for middle and working class folks, too. Private equity and venture capitalism has had a hand in buying up properties and jacking up rents. 

The Constitution promotes the general Welfare of the nation. I think that includes housing citizens. 

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nursej22 said:

There is a housing shortage for middle and working class folks, too. We would like to down size to a smaller home, but there very few on the market. Developers make more profit on building 4 bedroom, 3 bath  houses than 1-2 bedroom homes. Private equity and venture capitalism has had a hand in buying up properties and jacking up rents. 

The Constitution promotes the general Welfare of the nation. I think that includes housing citizens. 

 

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