The election 2024 Thread

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I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

heron said:

Yes ... it's all still a bunch of vote-suppressing solutions in search of a problem. Still, the magaphiles all have their assignments. This particular conversation is a tactic intended to invalidate an election that trump is losing. We know that. Beerman knows that. All the snark in the world isn't going to change that, any more than real or phony voter id fraud is going to change election results. Time to move on.

Meanwhile, things are heating up in the courts as maga republicans try to jimmy state election rules to make it easier to jam up a Harris victory.

Better than "Law and Order"!

I'm not under any illusion that anything I say here to a handful of libtards (you went magaphile) us going to influence the election.

What is the "vote suppressing solution" that concerns you?

What exactly makes you believe Trump is losing the election?

How many invalid ballots being counted is acceptable?  

 

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Beerman said:

I'm not under any illusion that anything I say here to a handful of libtards (you went magaphile) us going to influence the election.

What is the "vote suppressing solution" that concerns you?

What exactly makes you believe Trump is losing the election?

How many invalid ballots being counted is acceptable?  

 

I guess strawman arguments are called for in a discussion of voter fraud, eh.  No one thinks counting invalid ballots is acceptable, but that's not even really a problem that needs to be addressed. 

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toomuchbaloney said:

I guess strawman arguments are called for in a discussion of voter fraud, eh.  No one thinks counting invalid ballots is acceptable, but that's not even really a problem that needs to be addressed. 

Right. I think you said this perfect. The problem is not the voter fraud that happens, it's pointing out the voter fraud  and trying to prevent it that is the problem.  

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Beerman said:

I'm not under any illusion that anything I say here to a handful of libtards (you went magaphile) us going to influence the election.

What is the "vote suppressing solution" that concerns you?

What exactly makes you believe Trump is losing the election?

How many invalid ballots being counted is acceptable?  

 

Trump is not losing the election. It is a very tight race. However Trump is trending higher than Biden in several key areas than in 2020 and higher than himself in 2016.  There has been some speculation that Trump winning the popular vote isn't a far off pipe dream. I wonder what some will think if he wins both popular and electoral? Will they still be saying that the popular vote is more democratic even if a republican wins it? Doubt it. 

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Could Trump Win the Popular Vote but Lose the Electoral College?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/upshot/poll-trump-harris-election.html

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Beerman said:

I'm not under any illusion that anything I say here to a handful of libtards (you went magaphile) us going to influence the election.

What is the "vote suppressing solution" that concerns you?

What exactly makes you believe Trump is losing the election?

How many invalid ballots being counted is acceptable?  

 

Sounds like you are attempting to set the same stage? If Harris loses is because "maga Republicans jammed up her win"  and were too diligent on voter fraud ". 

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Crusades said:

Right. I think you said this perfect. The problem is not the voter fraud that happens, it's pointing out the voter fraud  and trying to prevent it that is the problem.  

It is prevented.  Voter fraud is rare and rarely goes undetected or unpunished.  Making voting more difficult or burdensome doesn't solve any voting problems but that's what most of the republican fixes accomplish.  

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toomuchbaloney said:

It is prevented.  Voter fraud is rare and rarely goes undetected or unpunished.  Making voting more difficult or burdensome doesn't solve any voting problems but that's what most of the republican fixes accomplish.  

Some people think every vote is sacred and even 1 fraudulent vote is not acceptable.  Even if it "rare". As it desecrates another legal vote. You know? Democracy? 

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Crusades said:

Sounds like you are attempting to set the same stage? If Harris loses is because "maga Republicans jammed up her win"  and were too diligent on voter fraud ". 

This was not directed at you Beerman. It was the member suggesting that "magaphiles" are trying to "jamm up Harris win". 

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Trump, Harris in Dead Heat: New York Times/Siena College Poll

 

With less than two weeks until election day, the last New York Times (Lean Left bias)/Siena College poll has Vice President Harris and former President Trump tied at 48% of the popular vote each. 

https://www.allsides.com/story/2024-presidential-election-trump-harris-dead-heat-new-york-timessiena-college-poll

The last republican popular vite was in the 80's. Trump's poulular vote right now is unprecedented in history.  

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Crusades said:

Some people think every vote is sacred and even 1 fraudulent vote is not acceptable.  Even if it "rare". As it desecrates another legal vote. You know? Democracy? 

Most people believe that, which is why we already have laws which make it very difficult to get away with voter fraud.  

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Election workers following process performing voter registration.

PA: Lancaster County is reviewing 2,500 voter registration applications for possible fraud

The concerning applications were not specific to one political party, officials said.

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Lancaster County officials announced Friday that they are reviewing roughly 2,500 voter-registration applications that were submitted just before the state's deadline after flagging indicators of possible fraud.

Among the issues identified were duplicate handwriting, fake names, inaccurate addresses, or signatures that did not match the ones already on file.

The concerning applications, which officials say were not specific to one political party, came in two large drops just before this week's registration deadline, Lancaster County District Attorney Heather Adams, a Republican, said at a news conference Friday....

In some circumstances, Lancaster County investigators found that the information was correct on the form — except for the signature — but once the voter was contacted, they said they did not submit it.....

 

 

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