I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
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Does anyone remember all of the republican congressional hearings about Biden conspiring with media platforms to keep certain info or of the public eye during Trump's failed presidency? With corrupt liars and cheats, their every projection is a confession.
Musk is wealthy and corrupt enough to be a decidedly important and dangerous ally of the rapist felon's attempt to regain lost power. Neither of them care much about the laws which moderate the behavior of other people.
I have to admit I am losing hope in the American public in that they actually want an authoritarian in charge who will just tell them what they want to hear. He gives them permission to hate whilst fleecing them and letting their lives deteriorate.
If only you scrutinized and questioned the integrity of everyone who acts as a major source of information and influence equally. Since you don't even come close to apply applying the same scrutiny to the guy who just spread dangerous disinformation during a hurricane just as casually as he spread disinformation about a pandemic, your posturing about 60 Minutes is laughable.
And there you are back to complaining that the assassination isn't talked about as much as Trump's public cognitive struggles.
I'm not complaining about anything. However when one almost has their head blown off with a innocent man killed and this is downplayed and not acknowledged that Trump was indeed a victim, his accusations of bias persecution is a whole lot more credible. You can literally watch it happen. I'm sure 60 min woukd have cut if if they could. LOL
If there was a current example to be scrutinized I would. Should I question something that's not happening right now?
I do not pay attention to Trump at his rallies much. This doesn't mean I'm unaware of what he says because that's impossible. However I focus on my life and my families life when Trump was the POTUS. And we were all much better off. As many Americans were. This is hard to overcome no matter what comes out of Trump's mouth.
No, you don't think that there's evidence that Trump has a personality disorder but you're also certain that Biden is incapacitated by dementia or similar, right?
No one said or implied that Trump is the only presidential candidate or president to have narcissistic traits. That makes that a strawman argument.
Which leaders are you talking about who were successful leaders with obvious mental illness? Consider which leaders in history suffered from a lack empathy and remorse while very focused upon perceived slight and retribution. That's Trump's obvious profile.
Do you think you are going to successfully project Trump's symptoms onto me or other members?
Nice dance.
Why are you using hyperbole? I never said Biden is "incompacitated". Nor would I ever use that word to describe my patients. No matter how far into decline they are. Whether it is minor age related change like you feel, or more than that, I would not say he was able to run another 4 yrs.
People with mental illness lead successful lives all the time. Trump is a billionaire and became POTUS against all odds. I'd say if he is mentally ill, he managing well.
No, you don't think that there's evidence that Trump has a personality disorder but you're also certain that Biden is incapacitated by dementia or similar, right?
No one said or implied that Trump is the only presidential candidate or president to have narcissistic traits. That makes that a strawman argument.
Which leaders are you talking about who were successful leaders with obvious mental illness? Consider which leaders in history suffered from a lack empathy and remorse while very focused upon perceived slight and retribution. That's Trump's obvious profile.
Do you think you are going to successfully project Trump's symptoms onto me or other members?
Nice dance.
Dance? Should be obvious. How is the major news networks fairing by being caught? Does this produce trust? Or does it help Trump?
Perhaps media should refrain from bias during a election season if only to not risk getting caught and making the opposing party stronger?
Does anyone remember all of the republican congressional hearings about Biden conspiring with media platforms to keep certain info or of the public eye during Trump's failed presidency? With corrupt liars and cheats, their every projection is a confession.
Musk is wealthy and corrupt enough to be a decidedly important and dangerous ally of the rapist felon's attempt to regain lost power. Neither of them care much about the laws which moderate the behavior of other people.
Yes. I remember Hunter Bidens laptop was a "conspiracy theory" and posting anything regarding it was met with suspension off of social media platforms. And then....... it was true!
Just as Trump's accusation that he is persecuted by the media and his "self victimhood" seems more probable,due to the downplaying of his attempr3d murder x 2, suppressing the laptop doesn't fair well in the "Trump spread conspiracy theories" camp does it?
The media and democrats do enough to instill doubt in their own media and self governance.
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Yes. I remember Hunter Bidens laptop was a "conspiracy theory" and posting anything regarding it was met with suspension off of social media platforms. And then....... it was true!
Just as Trump's accusation that he is persecuted by the media and his "self victimhood" seems more probable,due to the downplaying of his attempr3d murder x 2, suppressing the laptop doesn't fair well in the "Trump spread conspiracy theories" camp does it?
The media and democrats do enough to instill doubt in their own media and self governance.
Republicans didn't prove anything in those hearings about Hunter Biden except that republicans will publish nude photos of a private citizen in congress for political purposes. They didn't prove that Biden pressured anyone in the media. They didn't prove the providence of the harddrive.
Now y'all are trying to suggest that there's a conspiracy to suppress reporting on the violence that swirls around Trump.
Projection of the open attempts of Trump Republicans to instill doubt about election results or the independence of the DOJ is commonplace in the era of Trump.
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Crusades said:
Dance? Should be obvious. How is the major news networks fairing by being caught? Does this produce trust? Or does it help Trump?
Perhaps media should refrain from bias during a election season if only to not risk getting caught and making the opposing party stronger?
Non edited information shpuld be best practice.
Are you under some illusion that taped programs, like 60 Minutes, airs all of the recorded content with no editing? What exactly do you have evidence that they "got caught" doing?
All media is biased. Some media is so biased they tell they audience literal lies for a political agenda and have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.
I get my unedited information about the candidates by watching or listening to their speeches and public appearances.
Are you under some illusion that taped programs, like 60 Minutes, airs all of the recorded content with no editing? What exactly do you have evidence that they "got caught" doing?
All media is biased. Some media is so biased they tell they audience literal lies for a political agenda and have to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in damages.
I get my unedited information about the candidates by watching or listening to their speeches and public appearances.
Yep! That's why networks have this thing called "editing." Nevertheless, 60 Minutes gives the best live reporting on the major networks. They even edit when reporting on wild animals, forest fires and celebrity conductors. Imagine that.
"He is the most dangerous person ever. I had suspicions when I talked to you about his mental decline and so forth, but now I realize he's a total fascist. He is now the most dangerous person to this country...a fascist to the core.”
This is how former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, the nation's highest-ranking military officer and the primary military advisor to the president, the secretary of defense, and the National Security Council, described former president Donald Trump to veteran journalist Bob Woodward. Trump appointed Milley to that position.
Since he announced his presidential candidacy in June 2015 by calling Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals, Trump has trafficked in racist anti-immigrant stories. But since the September 10 presidential debate when he drew ridicule for his outburst regurgitating the lie that legal Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, were eating their white neighbors' pets, Trump has used increasingly fascist rhetoric. By this weekend, he had fully embraced the idea that the United States is being overrun by Black and Brown criminals and that they, along with their Democratic accomplices, must be rounded up, deported, or executed, with the help of the military.
Myah Ward of Politico noted on October 12 that Trump's speeches have escalated to the point that he now promises that he alone can save the country from those people he calls "animals,” "stone cold killers,” the "worst people,” and the "enemy from within.” He falsely claims Vice President Kamala Harris "has imported an army of illegal alien gang members and migrant criminals from the dungeons of the third world...from prisons and jails and insane asylums and mental institutions, and she has had them resettled beautifully into your community to prey upon innocent American citizens.”
Trump's behavior is Authoritarianism 101. In a 1951 book called The True Believer, political philosopher Eric Hoffer noted that demagogues appeal to a disaffected population whose members feel they have lost the power they previously held, that they have been displaced either religiously, economically, culturally, or politically. Such people are willing to follow a leader who promises to return them to their former positions of prominence and thus to make the nation great again.
But to cement their loyalty, the leader has to give them someone to hate. Who that is doesn't really matter: the group simply has to be blamed for all the troubles the leader's supporters are suffering. Trump has kept his base firmly behind him by demonizing immigrants, the media, and, increasingly, Democrats, deflecting his own shortcomings by blaming these groups for undermining him.
According to Hoffer, there's a psychological trick to the way this rhetoric works that makes loyalty to such a leader get stronger as that leader's behavior deteriorates. People who sign on to the idea that they are standing with their leader against an enemy begin to attack their opponents, and in order to justify their attacks, they have to convince themselves that that enemy is not good-intentioned, as they are, but evil. And the worse they behave, the more they have to believe their enemies deserve to be treated badly.
According to Hoffer, so long as they are unified against an enemy, true believers will support their leader no matter how outrageous his behavior gets. Indeed, their loyalty will only grow stronger as his behavior becomes more and more extreme. Turning against him would force them to own their own part in his attacks on those former enemies they would now have to recognize as ordinary human beings like themselves.
At a MAGA rally in Aurora, Colorado, on October 11, Trump added to this formula his determination to use the federal government to attack those he calls enemies. Standing on a stage with a backdrop that read, "DEPORT ILLEGALS NOW" and "END MIGRANT CRIME,” he insisted that the city had been taken over by Venezuelan gangs and proposed a federal program he called "Operation Aurora" to remove those immigrants he insists are members of "savage gangs.” When Trump said, "We have to live with these animals, but we won't live with them for long,” a person in the crowd shouted: "Kill them!”
Officials in Aurora emphatically deny Trump's claim that the city is a "war zone.” Republican mayor Mike Coffman said that Aurora is "not a city overrun by Venezuelan gangs" and that such statements are "grossly exaggerated.” While there have been incidents, they "were limited to several apartment complexes in this city of more than 400,000 residents.” The chief of the Aurora police agreed that the city is "not by any means overtaken by Venezuelan gangs.”
In Aurora, Trump also promised to "invoke the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.” As legal analyst Asha Rangappa explains, the Alien Enemies Act authorizes the government to round up, detain, and deport foreign nationals of a country with which the U.S. is at war. But it is virtually certain Trump didn't come up with the idea to use that law on his own, raising the question of who really will be in charge of policy in a second Trump administration.
Trump aide Stephen Miller seems the likely candidate to run immigration policy. He has promised to begin a project of "denaturalization,” that is, stripping naturalized citizens of their citizenship. He, too, spoke at Aurora, leading the audience in booing photos that were allegedly of migrant criminals.
Before Miller spoke, a host from Right Side Broadcasting used the dehumanizing language associated with genocide, saying of migrants: "These people, they are so evil. They are not your run-of-the-mill criminal. They are people that are Satanic. They are involved in human sacrifice. They are raping men, women, and children—especially underaged children." Trump added the old trope of a population carrying disease, saying that immigrants are "very very very sick with highly contagious disease, and they're let into our country to infect our country.”
Trump promised the audience in Aurora that he would "liberate Colorado. I will give you back your freedom and your life.”
On Saturday, October 12, Trump held a rally in Coachella, California, where temperatures near 100 degrees Fahrenheit (38 degrees Celsius) sparked heat-related illnesses in his audience as he spoke for about 80 minutes in the apocalyptic vein he has adopted lately. After the rally, shuttle buses failed to arrive to take attendees back to their cars, leaving them stranded.
And on Sunday, October 13, Trump made the full leap to authoritarianism, calling for using the federal government not only against immigrants, but also against his political opponents. After weeks of complaining about the "enemy within,” Trump suggested that those who oppose him in the 2024 election are the nation's most serious problem.
He told Fox News Channel host Maria Bartiromo that even more troubling for the forthcoming election than immigrants "is the enemy from within...we have some very bad people, we have some sick people, radical left lunatics.... And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military."
Trump's campaign seems to be deliberately pushing the comparisons to historic American fascism by announcing that Trump will hold a rally at New York City's Madison Square Garden on October 27, an echo of a February 1939 rally held there by American Nazis in honor of President George Washington's birthday. More than 20,000 people showed up for the "true Americanism" event, held on a stage that featured a huge portrait of Washington in his Continental Army uniform flanked by swastikas.
Trump's full-throated embrace of Nazi "race science" and fascism is deadly dangerous, but there is something notable about Trump's recent rallies that undermines his claims that he is winning the 2024 election. Trump is not holding these rallies in the swing states he needs to win but rather is holding them in states—Colorado, California, New York—that he is almost certain to lose by a lot.
Longtime Republican operative Matthew Bartlett told Matt Dixon and Allan Smith of NBC News: "This does not seem like a campaign putting their candidate in critical vote-rich or swing vote locations—it seems more like a candidate who wants his campaign to put on rallies for optics and vibes.”
Trump seems eager to demonstrate that he is a strongman, a dominant candidate, when in fact he has refused another debate with Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris and backed out of an interview with 60 Minutes. He has refused to release a medical report although his mental acuity is a topic of concern as he rambles through speeches and seems entirely untethered from reality. And as Harris turns out larger numbers for her rallies in swing states than he does, he appears to be turning bloodthirsty in Democratic areas.
Today, Harris told a rally of her own in North Carolina: “[Trump] is not being transparent.... He refuses to release his medical records. I've done it. Every other presidential candidate in the modern era has done it. He is unwilling to do a 60 Minutes interview like every other major party candidate has done for more than half a century. He is unwilling to meet for a second debate.... It makes you wonder, why does his staff want him to hide away?... Are they afraid that people will see that he is too weak and unstable to lead America? Is that what's going on?”
"For these reasons and so many more,” she said, "it is time to turn the page.”
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