The election 2024 Thread

Published

I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.

Get out the popcorn for this one.

Quote

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/18/desantis-plans-to-officially-announce-presidential-run-next-week.html

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Crusades said:

Ah. You must be talking about 60 minutes getting called out for selectively editing Harris' interview? 

I think criminal charges is a little extreem. It doesnt help quell Trumps fak9e news accusations. I wounder if they will release the video in it's entirety? 

No, I very specifically referenced ABC and the debate. That misrepresentation aside, 60 minutes always edits their interviews.  Always. You only know about that edit because CBS released that edit.  I wonder if you would be as curious about the edited video of Trump's Apprentice work.  

 

toomuchbaloney said:

No, I very specifically referenced ABC and the debate. That misrepresentation aside, 60 minutes always edits their interviews.  Always. You only know about that edit because CBS released that edit.  I wonder if you would be as curious about the edited video of Trump's Apprentice work.  

 

They don't necessarily, or at least shouldn't be editing to make a political candidate look better or worse.

They usually release transcripts,  which thus far are refusing to do.  And the network has investigated the show in the past and has found wrongdoing.

Several former CBS staffers are reportedly saying there are some questions regarding the interview and editing process that need to be answered.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Beerman said:

They don't necessarily, or at least shouldn't be editing to make a political candidate look better or worse.

They usually release transcripts,  which thus far are refusing to do.  And the network has investigated the show in the past and has found wrongdoing.

Several former CBS staffers are reportedly saying there are some questions regarding the interview and editing process that need to be answered.

Are you suggesting that 60 minutes edited for a political agenda to harm Trump's candidacy or to help Harris's? 

It's commonplace for the credibility and integrity of any agency or group or individual to be questioned or attacked should that seem of benefit to Trump.  Now it's 60 minutes turn again. Let us know when you get those answers that you're looking for. I'll be interested in the story that once again makes Trump a victim and target of the nefarious agenda of extremist media like 60 minutes.  

 

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
toomuchbaloney said:

Are you suggesting that 60 minutes edited for a political agenda to harm Trump's candidacy or to help Harris's? 

It's commonplace for the credibility and integrity of any agency or group or individual to be questioned or attacked should that seem of benefit to Trump.  Now it's 60 minutes turn again. Let us know when you get those answers that you're looking for. I'll be interested in the story that once again makes Trump a victim and target of the nefarious agenda of extremist media like 60 minutes.  

 

Any major source of information like 60 minutes or any msm should be questioned and have their integrity assessed and scrutinized. Do I have to explain to you the dangers of allowing and accepting a major proprietor of information to the masses that goes unchecked or isn't allowed to be criticized? Go ask communism and your favorite,;fascism.  

Perhaps if the msm/democrats and even you didn't try and downplay the attempted assianation of Trump 2 times in 9 weeks even when on live footage a bullet pierced his ear, (glass shard) a few inches from his brain, killing a innocent man, Trump wouldn't have a point when he criticized the MSM for their bias propaganda? 

It's not the first time a media outlet edited footage. Why do you think they did? 

 

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
toomuchbaloney said:

No, I very specifically referenced ABC and the debate. That misrepresentation aside, 60 minutes always edits their interviews.  Always. You only know about that edit because CBS released that edit.  I wonder if you would be as curious about the edited video of Trump's Apprentice work.  

 

Was Trump's apprentice work done during an election? 

All media uses spin. However it shouldn't be used at all or as much during a election period. 

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
toomuchbaloney said:

Correct, fewer people wanted Trump to be president in the 2020 election and that was before he tried to overturn the election results and got convicted of a bunch of felonies.  It doesn't seem like Trump is campaigning to expand his support or increase his likability, does it? His campaign appearances are increasingly erratic and confused. 

You already admitted that he has symptoms of narcissism yet you say there's no evidence of a mental illness? 

 

I do not see Trump's narcissistic traits to the level of a diagnosis. And trying to imply that Trump is the only narcissist type personality that has become POTUS is ridiculous.  

Many leaders over history have had mental illness. Most people with mental illness have productive successful lives. I find your comments and those like them as stigmatized mental illness. 

Anyone can pick out a symptom they have in relation to a mental illness. I see some grandiose traits in these threads. 

toomuchbaloney said:

Are you suggesting that 60 minutes edited for a political agenda to harm Trump's candidacy or to help Harris's? 

It's commonplace for the credibility and integrity of any agency or group or individual to be questioned or attacked should that seem of benefit to Trump.  Now it's 60 minutes turn again. Let us know when you get those answers that you're looking for. I'll be interested in the story that once again makes Trump a victim and target of the nefarious agenda of extremist media like 60 minutes.  

 

It was to benefit Harris, obviously. 

You blew off that the edited version that ran made her look much better than the preview, and that former CBS staffers are concerned with the integrity of what 60 minutes did.  So, the rest of your comment seems to be deflection, once again.  

Specializes in Assisted living/hospice.
NRSKarenRN said:

So it's now OK to pay people to influence voting?  By the worlds richest man having multiple government contracts?

Philadelphia Inquirer  10/11/2024

Elon Musk is obsessed with delivering Pennsylvania for Donald Trump. Here's what he's doing.

From setting up a "war room" in Pittsburgh to giving financial incentives for swing state voters from his super PAC, Elon Musk is relentlessly campaigning for Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.

 

Well in a time that incentives being offered to get an injection...... perhaps. 

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Crusades said:

Well in a time that incentives being offered to get an injection...... perhaps. 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/597

Cornell Law SchoolSearch Cornell

U.S. Code

Title 18

18 U.S. Code § 597 - 

Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 721; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147; Pub. L. 104–294, title VI, § 601(a)(12), Oct. 11, 1996, 110 Stat. 3498.)

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Crusades said:

Any major source of information like 60 minutes or any msm should be questioned and have their integrity assessed and scrutinized. Do I have to explain to you the dangers of allowing and accepting a major proprietor of information to the masses that goes unchecked or isn't allowed to be criticized? Go ask communism and your favorite,;fascism.  

Perhaps if the msm/democrats and even you didn't try and downplay the attempted assianation of Trump 2 times in 9 weeks even when on live footage a bullet pierced his ear, (glass shard) a few inches from his brain, killing a innocent man, Trump wouldn't have a point when he criticized the MSM for their bias propaganda? 

It's not the first time a media outlet edited footage. Why do you think they did? 

 

If only you scrutinized and questioned the integrity of everyone who acts as a major source of information and influence equally.  Since you don't even come close to apply applying the same scrutiny to the guy who just spread dangerous disinformation during a hurricane just as casually as he spread disinformation about a pandemic, your posturing about 60 Minutes is laughable. 

And there you are back to complaining that the assassination isn't talked about as much as Trump's public cognitive struggles. 

 

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Crusades said:

 

I do not see Trump's narcissistic traits to the level of a diagnosis. And trying to imply that Trump is the only narcissist type personality that has become POTUS is ridiculous.  

Many leaders over history have had mental illness. Most people with mental illness have productive successful lives. I find your comments and those like them as stigmatized mental illness. 

Anyone can pick out a symptom they have in relation to a mental illness. I see some grandiose traits in these threads. 

No, you don't think that there's evidence that Trump has a personality disorder but you're also certain that Biden is incapacitated by dementia or similar, right? 

No one said or implied that Trump is the only presidential candidate or president to have narcissistic traits.  That makes that a strawman argument.  

Which leaders are you talking about who were successful leaders with obvious mental illness? Consider which leaders in history suffered from a lack empathy and remorse while very focused upon perceived slight and retribution.  That's Trump's obvious profile.  

Do you think you are going to successfully project Trump's symptoms onto me or other members?  

Crusades said:

Was Trump's apprentice work done during an election? 

All media uses spin. However it shouldn't be used at all or as much during a election period. 

Nice dance.  

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Beerman said:

It was to benefit Harris, obviously. 

You blew off that the edited version that ran made her look much better than the preview, and that former CBS staffers are concerned with the integrity of what 60 minutes did.  So, the rest of your comment seems to be deflection, once again.  

I guess it's obvious if that's what you want to think. Even in the edited footage Harris is more eloquent than Trump is at his best.  

I did blow it off, yes.  

Have you listened to or watched her opponent? That guy is barely coherent a good bit of the time and he isn't really capable of answering questions with any specificity or clarity anymore.  Why would I get yanked about leaving the worst parts out when editing for time? Team Trump is trying to make the case that Harris talks in word salad and that projection is just not going to stick.  

+ Join the Discussion