I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
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Crusades said:
I have not personally assessed either Biden or Trump. Nor am I aware of any assessment by a Dr.
"Dr. Bandy Lee" has not assess either of them. You could easily find another Dr that would dispute cognitive decline. Hence the phenomenon of a second opinion. Especially when potentially politically motivated.
I do see narcissistic traits in Trump and perhaps some lingual recall deficit and/or improper use of words associated with age and we saw in 2016.. Dementia is progressive and doesn't get worse when one decides to run for POTUS a 3rd time. There would be marked changes over time. I see very little difference of Trump's "cognitive" decline in 8 years. This is not consistent with dementia. Biden however has significantly changed over 4 yrs.
It's odd a retired nurse who is not specialized in mental illness or dementia should provide a definitive diagnosis when not qualified to do so.
Every single one of us has observed and assessed the behavior, mannerisms, communication skills, and personal histories of the two presidential candidates. It's ridiculous to imply that we cannot assess the character and behavior and known history of an individual who has been in the media for decades.
Of course there are differing opinions. Importantly, there are very many professionals who are courageous enough to sign letters and make public remarks which support Dr Lee's VERY qualified opinion. This concern about Trump's mental health isn't new.
Here's a discussion of a book written by Dr Lee and other mental health professionals about the need to address this important and dangerous feature of Trump.
If you can't see progressive loss of cognitive ability in Trump since 2016 then I'm going to question your assessment skills. That's a ridiculous denial. Trump's symptoms of dementia are long term and persistent and progressive since he rode that golden elevator in 2015. The decline in verbal and communication skills is especially noticeable. At this point in time Trump has significant difficulty answering a specific single topic question. His answers reflect a deeply chaotic thought process with no real focus or substance. He frequently confuses people and events. Trump uses measurably more vulgar language in his public appearances than in his previous campaigns.
According to a computer analysis by The New York Times, Mr. Trump's rally speeches now last an average of 82 minutes, compared with 45 minutes in 2016. Proportionately, he uses 13 percent more all-or-nothing terms like "always" and "never" than he did eight years ago, which some experts consider a sign of advancing age.
Similarly, he uses 32 percent more negative words than p ositive words now, compared with 21 percent in 2016, which can be another indicator of cognitive change. And he uses swearwords 69 percent more often than he did when he first ran, a trend that could reflect what experts call disinhibition. (A study by Stat, a health care news outlet, produced similar findings.)
Mr. Trump frequently reaches to the past for his frame of reference, often to the 1980s and 1990s, when he was in his tabloid-fueled heyday. He cites fictional characters from that era like Hannibal Lecter from "Silence of the Lip" (he meant "Silence of the Lambs”), asks "where's Johnny Carson, bring back Johnny" (who died in 2005) and ruminates on how attractive Cary Grant was (“the most handsome man”). He asks supporters whether they remember the landing in New York of Charles Lindbergh, who actually landed in Paris and long before Mr. Trump was born.
I guess I'm not surprised that you didn't retain the information that I began my nursing career as a trained psychiatric nurse working in a regional psychiatric hospital. I practiced some more psych nursing in the community in home care, there are some pretty unwell people living without much in the way of assistance or supervision. I'm more qualified than many to offer up my opinion about mental illness and we all have freedom to voice our opinions and assessments. Just like you believe you were qualified to claim Biden has dementia (he doesn't) or that Trump doesn't show signs of dementia (he does), it's your right to express those opinions.
Yes, because Trump is a very divisive and unlikable candidate with alarming symptoms of mental illness and cognitive challenges. He can't win a popularity contest.
74 million voted for Trump 2020. Biden had more votes. 81 million. Trump is very well supported and liked.
Yes the speculative dementia/mental illness in which there is no evidence.
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Crusades said:
Hereagain with the guilt by association fallacy. Do you have something to say without trying to taint the person who has a opposing opinion than you? People who usually use this fallacy are either insecure with their point or desperate.
Nah. Your words reflect your values, your thinking, your beliefs. You don't care that your candidate is a felon, racist and adjudicated fraud and sexual abusive man. If your defenses of Trump don't reflect your values an s thinking, what do they reflect?
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This is a deflect an an attempt to scare me with "racism". Doesn't work with me, try something else. We were discussing dementia/mental illness.
No, not deflection and no, not an attempt to scare you. We're talking about the crazy candidate with cognitive decline who is a well known racist. Trump's racist (and misogynist) tendencies are more frequently expressed now that he is less able to moderate his speech and chaotic thought processes.
Crusades said:
Possibly. Do you remember that 1 symptom doesn't qualify for diagnosis? Check the DSM for criteria.
You should tell me which symptom doesn't fit and why one out of place symptom would make him ineligible for the diagnosis. That might make this a thoughtful discussion.
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Crusades said:
So was censoring the media applying sanctions and criticizing undesired speech and ideas. Both Harris and Walz had enthusiastically admitted they want to do.
I bet you have a citation for that that doesn't involve disinformation, hate speech or incitement.
Do you know that Trump is famous for calling the press the enemy of the people and implying that journalists should be jailed? He was pretty upset after he had such a disastrous debate and talked about retribution for ABC.
Every single one of us has observed and assessed the behavior, mannerisms, communication skills, and personal histories of the two presidential candidates. It's ridiculous to imply that we cannot assess the character and behavior and known history of an individual who has been in the media for decades.
It's ridiculous that you think Trump has cognitive decline and Biden has none. Especially since the democrat party noticed enough or, could no longer deny Bidens decline they made a move to place a candidate in which was not voted in his place. I mean even CNN voiced concerns.
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If you can't see progressive loss of cognitive ability in Trump since 2016 then I'm going to question your assessment skills.
You claim Biden is cognitively intact without any decline. I do not need to question your "skills" . Your extreem bias and preoccupation with Trump demonstrates this itself.
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That's a ridiculous denial.
Ridiculous like claiming Biden has no cognitive decline? LOL.
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I guess I'm not surprised that you didn't retain the information that I began my nursing career as a trained psychiatric nurse working in a regional psychiatric hospital. I practiced some more psych nursing in the community in home care, there are some pretty unwell people living without much in the way of assistance or supervision. I'm more qualified than many to offer up my opinion about mental illness........
I'm sure ypur time as a pyhc nurse gained you allot of knowledge. However it didn't qualify you to make a diagnosis.
I'm a practicing specialized geriatric/dementia nurse and I do not claim my observations and/or opinions qualify me to make a definitive diagnosis. I'm not surprised you didn't retain the several times I indicated that a qualified professional needs to make a definitive diagnosis and I was not indicating that I have made a diagnosis either. That's the difference here.
We all know before cognitive decline /mental illness to be diagnosis requires that other physical pathology is not present. This can be done by lab work, CAT scans MRI etc.
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Housing is affordable, so everything must be going well.
After Detroit auto industry collapsed, many left the city. Must not watch HGTV's Bargain Block where 2 guys have been picking up distressed properties and revitalizing entire blocks at a time --so successful, doing same in New Orleans during wintertime past year allowing low-middle income wage earners to become first time homebuyers. City on the MOVE UPWARD, as taxes on these homes going into city coffers.!
Roof the Block is bringing new roofs to at least 10 long-time homeowners in Detroit's Fitzgerald neighborhood!
A collaboration of Nine Design + Homes, the Relentless Care Foundation by Community Financial Credit Union & Brilliant Detroit, our goal is to support existing Fitzgerald neighbors, replace 10 roofs this Summer 2024! ---- Help us hit our goal!
Spearheaded by Keith and Evan of Bargain Blocks Nine Design as they realized many of the homes they purchased blight started due to leaking roofs. They announced this week that 14 homes roofs were replaced, caught my attention and supported project.
Companies don't spend a BiLLiON dollars in a city if truly dying.
For 30 years, Detroit's Michigan Central Station lay abandoned and became a symbol of the city's decline. But in 2018, Ford bought the building and launched a $1 billion dollar restoration plan to rebuild not only the station, but create a new tech hub that they hope will support the city's future.
I bet you have a citation for that that doesn't involve disinformation, hate speech or incitement.
Do you know that Trump is famous for calling the press the enemy of the people and implying that journalists should be jailed? He was pretty upset after he had such a disastrous debate and talked about retribution for ABC.
Ah. You must be talking about 60 minutes getting called out for selectively editing Harris' interview?
I think criminal charges is a little extreem. It doesnt help quell Trumps fake news accusations. I wounder if they will release the video in it's entirety?
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Crusades said:
I'm sure ypur time as a pyhc nurse gained you allot of knowledge. However it didn't qualify you to make a diagnosis.
I'm a practicing specialized geriatric/dementia nurse and I do not claim my observations and/or opinions qualify me to make a definitive diagnosis. I'm not surprised you didn't retain the several times I indicated that a qualified professional needs to make a definitive diagnosis and I was not indicating that I have made a diagnosis either. That's the difference here.
We all know before cognitive decline /mental illness to be diagnosis requires that other physical pathology is not present. This can be done by lab work, CAT scans MRI etc.
My opinion is well supported by observable evidence and expert opinion.
We're in the same boat then, because I've never said or claimed that I'm qualified to make a psychiatric diagnosis either. I do, however believe that Trump has a significant mental illness and I can, and have, support that belief with evidence in the public square. The difference is that you are very likely wrong about Biden having dementia, according to all of the observable and known evidence. Trump is clearly unwell. He regularly makes little to no sense. He is negative, repetitive, divisive, angry and a pathological liar. Could you be wrong about Trump's mental or cognitive health?
I never said that Biden didn't have cognitive decline. I have very clearly spoken about Biden's age related decline which is normal and not pathologic or evidence of a dementia process.
We all know that to consider that one might need a CT or MRI or lab work to rule out other health issues one would have to first admit that there is a host of concerning symptoms which would justify or require that approach. Ronny Jackson said that there was a CT of Trump's head done after the shooting. Maybe that should be a public disclosure.
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Crusades said:
74 million voted for Trump 2020. Biden had more votes. 81 million. Trump is very well supported and liked.
Yes the speculative dementia/mental illness in which there is no evidence.
Correct, fewer people wanted Trump to be president in the 2020 election and that was before he tried to overturn the election results and got convicted of a bunch of felonies. It doesn't seem like Trump is campaigning to expand his support or increase his likability, does it? His campaign appearances are increasingly erratic and confused.
You already admitted that he has symptoms of narcissism yet you say there's no evidence of a mental illness?
From setting up a "war room" in Pittsburgh to giving financial incentives for swing state voters from his super PAC, Elon Musk is relentlessly campaigning for Donald Trump in Pennsylvania.
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....One of those investments takes the form of a petition from Musk's America PAC where he could spend upward of $47 million. Anyone who signs vows their support for the First and Second Amendments, which could then provide the contacts that allow them to be targeted by Musk's PAC to vote for Trump. Participants will also receive $47 — the number of the next U.S. president — for each registered voter they refer to sign the petition. Until Oct. 21, when the petition closes, Musk's goal is to reach 1 million registered swing state voters "to sign in support of the Constitution.” This program is exclusively open to swing state voters.
'I think it's meant to reassure her base—college educated women—that the Democratic Party is truly theirs,' one commentator quipped
So set off to explore origins: content creator Jacob Reed: Jacob All Trades substack has the full set of videos
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I creative directed and directed this campaign for Creatives For Harris. In the last 24 hrs, it's racked up half a million views on TikTok, been reposted by Vote Save America, and gotten a great write-up in Fast Company. I've felt validated by the response and the incredible experience of working with a crew of volunteers to bring this into the world. I plan to say more about the process, but for now, check it out!
I think this resonates with people because it's a view of masculinity we see in our lives but is rarely reflected in the media — especially when some of the loudest voices on the subject are the most insecure and bombastic. Our friends, family, and neighbors are complex men. They can change a tire and enjoy a romcom; chug a beer and run to the store to get tampons for their wives and daughters — the strongest men are the most secure in their masculinity. With the rise of role models like Tim Walz and Doug Emhoff on the national stage, I think the left is finally finding its footing on how to talk about masculinity — I think we're overdue for a redefinition of what it means to be a man in America and I hope this campaign can start to shape that conversation. Because even though it's more sketch comedy than political ad, what these men are saying is true — except being afraid of bears. A bear will straight-up kill you
Think it will be a conversation he's not expecting. I had a good laugh, especially the DONUTS ad.
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Every single one of us has observed and assessed the behavior, mannerisms, communication skills, and personal histories of the two presidential candidates. It's ridiculous to imply that we cannot assess the character and behavior and known history of an individual who has been in the media for decades.
Of course there are differing opinions. Importantly, there are very many professionals who are courageous enough to sign letters and make public remarks which support Dr Lee's VERY qualified opinion. This concern about Trump's mental health isn't new.
https://www.businessinsider.com/psychiatrists-submit-warning-trumps-mental-health-deteriorating-2019-12
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-dangerous-mental-illness-yale-psychiatrist-conference-us-president-unfit-james-gartner-duty-to-warn-a7694316.html
Here's a discussion of a book written by Dr Lee and other mental health professionals about the need to address this important and dangerous feature of Trump.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6145972/
If you can't see progressive loss of cognitive ability in Trump since 2016 then I'm going to question your assessment skills. That's a ridiculous denial. Trump's symptoms of dementia are long term and persistent and progressive since he rode that golden elevator in 2015. The decline in verbal and communication skills is especially noticeable. At this point in time Trump has significant difficulty answering a specific single topic question. His answers reflect a deeply chaotic thought process with no real focus or substance. He frequently confuses people and events. Trump uses measurably more vulgar language in his public appearances than in his previous campaigns.
https://www.statnews.com/2024/08/07/trump-mental-health-linguistic-analysis-suggests-potential-cognitive-decline-experts-say/
https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/look-new-york-times-suddenly-discovers-trumps-cognitive-decline.html
I guess I'm not surprised that you didn't retain the information that I began my nursing career as a trained psychiatric nurse working in a regional psychiatric hospital. I practiced some more psych nursing in the community in home care, there are some pretty unwell people living without much in the way of assistance or supervision. I'm more qualified than many to offer up my opinion about mental illness and we all have freedom to voice our opinions and assessments. Just like you believe you were qualified to claim Biden has dementia (he doesn't) or that Trump doesn't show signs of dementia (he does), it's your right to express those opinions.