I traditionally have a thread heading to the election, here we go.
Get out the popcorn for this one.
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is expected to formally announce next week he is running for president in 2024, NBC News reported Thursday, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The governor's official entry into the Republican primary field will put him head-to-head with former President Donald Trump, the party's current frontrunner for the nomination. Trump has already spent months treating DeSantis as his primary campaign rival, thrashing him with torrents of criticism over his gubernatorial record, his political skills and his personality.
Trump isn't fit for office because he is mentally ill, because he is incompetent, because he is morally and ethically challenged while also being a pathological liar.
Yes. I know, Vance's remarks are indefensible, the best strategy is to just make an excuse and blame others for the inability to defend the statements and lies.
That's correct, you are incapable of engaging in meaningful conversation with me, you should stop trying.
Too bad your unqualified diagnosis isn't supported by and evidence other than your own grandiose opinion. Even far left msm isn't running the mental health propaganda anymore. Too bad the other half of the US population will decide what Trump is or is not, not you.
Any comments can be distorted and used as propaganda.
I am very aware of how ad hominiem works and could use it if I choose. I find it makes one opinions look cheap and discrediting.
As I said. If there was any point to discussing Vance's comments I would.
It's interesting that we're not supposed to consider what Trump's foreign policy efforts would result in. For instance, we're supposed to believe that Russia wouldn't have invaded Ukraine if Trump was president when Trump actually weakened NATO which made attacking Ukraine more likely. We're supposed to forget that as the right wing extremists in Iran and Israel lob armaments at one another that Trump collapsed the Iran agreement and put the country on its current trajectory to develop a nuclear weapon.
It's pretty laughable that you want us to believe that Americans weren't losing jobs or homes under Trump and they could afford gas. It's almost like you just can't quite remember that Trump displayed a unique and disqualifying lack of any leadership skills during a national health emergency. How many millions of people lost jobs and couldn't pay rent or mortgages while Trump was busily trying to figure out how to convince everyone that covid was all under control and going to magically go away by Summer? Wasn't that pandemic mismanagement and chaos a big part of the reason that gas was cheap? Were you worried about toilet paper or were you some of the people who couldn't get baby formula in 2020?
Looking back at Trump's failed presidency through rose colored glasses is not constructive.
Too bad even your far left propaganda makes it obvious that the hardships citizens faced were during covid and because of covid. How were things before covid?
Trump had the courage to question forced mandates and not allowing people to go to work. Do you think people unable to earn money had anything to do with it? He also questioned a very new vaccine approved before the usual drug trial. Then facilitated the quick availability of said vaccines. Even openenly disclosing his medial status of getting the vaccine himself.
All these things you describe were happening to every country on the planet so "it was Trump's fault" isn't going to work here.
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Crusades said:
Too bad even your far left propaganda makes it obvious that the hardships citizens faced were during covid and because of covid. How were things before covid?
Trump had the courage to question forced mandates and not allowing people to go to work. Do you think people unable to earn money had anything to do with it? He also questioned a very new vaccine approved before the usual drug trial. Then facilitated the quick availability of said vaccines. Even openenly disclosing his medial status of getting the vaccine himself.
All these things you describe were happening to every country on the planet so "it was Trump's fault" isn't going to work here.
The economy was still on the Obama trajectory before COVID except for the huge increase in the debt and deficit from the Trump tax cuts. When Trump was confronted with a pandemic he completely crumbled.
Trump didn't do anything relative to the vaccines except make sure they were funded for quick manufacturing and distribution. Trump made stupid and reckless claims and asked stupid questions about injecting disinfectants or using lights inside the body to kill covid. He was the largest source of incorrect and intentionally false information about the pandemic in 2020 and because of him thousands of people died.
Trump is absolutely responsible for his complete inability to lead during a crisis. What a weak man who can't even accept responsibility for his own errors of judgment and failures of leadership.
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Crusades said:
Too bad your unqualified diagnosis isn't supported by and evidence other than your own grandiose opinion. Even far left msm isn't running the mental health propaganda anymore. Too bad the other half of the US population will decide what Trump is or is not, not you.
Any comments can be distorted and used as propaganda.
I am very aware of how ad hominiem works and could use it if I choose. I find it makes one opinions look cheap and discrediting.
As I said. If there was any point to discussing Vance's comments I would.
Just because you ignore evidence or discount the professional voices who speak about the obvious signs of mental illness doesn't mean that there are no professional voices or that the signs of the mental illness aren't obvious. It's pretty clear that Trump is unwell just like it's pretty clear that he is a felon, a sexual abusive misogynist and racist who uses fear mongering and lies to manipulate his target audience.
Just because you ignore evidence or discount the professional voices who speak about the obvious signs of mental illness doesn't mean that there are no professional voices or that the signs of the mental illness aren't obvious. It's pretty clear that Trump is unwell just like it's pretty clear that he is a felon, a sexual abusive misogynist and racist who uses fear mongering and lies to manipulate his target audience.
What "professional voices" ? Yours? Or cherry picked "professionals" on CNN and MSNBC? Who have not assessed Trump?
I have a nursing specialty in dementia/geriatrics care and even I do not diagnosis Biden as in decline definitely. You can't even admit the obvious sighs in Biden other than he's "old and wise" so you professional opinion is irrelevant.
The economy was still on the Obama trajectory before COVID except for the huge increase in the debt and deficit from the Trump tax cuts. When Trump was confronted with a pandemic he completely crumbled.
Trump didn't do anything relative to the vaccines except make sure they were funded for quick manufacturing and distribution. Trump made stupid and reckless claims and asked stupid questions about injecting disinfectants or using lights inside the body to kill covid. He was the largest source of incorrect and intentionally false information about the pandemic in 2020 and because of him thousands of people died.
Trump is absolutely responsible for his complete inability to lead during a crisis. What a weak man who can't even accept responsibility for his own errors of judgment and failures of leadership.
Trump lost the popular vote that year too.
Of course. The nice economy and everything else good was residual from Obama. And anything bad in the current administration was residual of Trump. Give me a break. On that note. Biden took over 2020 so the majority of the pandemic was under Biden.
Covid is old news. It's 2024.
Maybe Trump let the gain of function leak happen (apparently a conspiracy theory) so that people could die and he could get blamed for everything? It was party of his evil Hitler plan.
The popular vote doesn't determine the winner.
And Harris wouldn't change a thing in the last 4 yrs. As per her own admission...... And people were better off under Trump. Tough to get arround that.
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Crusades said:
Of course. The nice economy and everything else good was residual from Obama. And anything bad in the current administration was residual of Trump. Give me a break. On that note. Biden took over 2020 so the majority of the pandemic was under Biden.
Covid is old news. It's 2024.
Maybe Trump let the gain of function leak happen (apparently a conspiracy theory) so that people could die and he could get blamed for everything? It was party of his evil Hitler plan.
The popular vote doesn't determine the winner.
And Harris wouldn't change a thing in the last 4 yrs. As per her own admission...... And people were better off under Trump. Tough to get arround that.
Can you point to the economic data that reflects some change in trajectory after 2016? The change in trajectory came in 2020 when Trump mismanaged the pandemic and collapsed our economy.
Thanks to Trump politicizing Covid, it will be a long time before COVID isn't part of our lives. Because of the rampant and out of control spread during Trump's failed presidency, some 17 million Americans suffer from long covid. They'll enjoy getting health care for that chronic health condition after Trump ends the ACA and those protections for people with preexisting conditions.
The last 4 years were better than Trump's 4 years according to the measurable benchmarks. We've already reviewed that analysis and ranking a couple times. In a similar vein, here is a review of some of the COVID conspiracy theories inspired by Trump's belligerence.
Correct, the popular vote doesn't elect the president. The popular vote reflected Trump's relative unpopularity both in 2016 and again in 2020. I think it's going to, once again, reflect that Trump isn't that popular.
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Well contacted by phone last night by Rasmussen Reports, will be interested in their next PA election report. 🙂