The Controversy: Mandatory Flu Vaccines

Many hospitals are moving towards creating mandatory influenza vaccination policies as a condition of employment. Such mandates are causing surefire responses on both sides of the fence. What is the push behind the movement, and what is causing the pushback?

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First, let me just go over some of the symptoms of the flu, and then we will get down to business on the controversy surrounding the push to create mandatory flu vaccines for healthcare workers:

  • Sudden onset fever
  • Headache
  • Chills
  • Myalgia
  • Dry cough
  • Sore throat
  • Stuffy nose
  • Loss of appetite
  • Limb or joint pain
  • Difficulty sleeping
  • Diarrhea or upset stomach

I can't think of anyone who wants any of these symptoms, or to come down with the flu, can you?

Influenza vaccination research has clearly documented the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine (Google it - you will find a plethora of information...however, I will list some links at the end of this article for your information). However, even though there is sufficient evidence to prove the benefits of receiving the flu vaccine, vaccination rates among healthcare workers are pitifully low. In 2013, only 55% of nurses in the frontlines were vaccinated.

Organizations such as The Joint Commission, the American Nurses Association, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, American College of Physicians, Infectious Diseases Society of America, the Association for Professionals in Infection Control and Epidemiology, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, the Centers for Disease Control, Healthy People 2020, etc., etc., have stated their position on recommending the flu vaccine for healthcare workers in order to decrease the risk of exposure and reduce deaths. Due to this recommendation, many healthcare facilities are now creating mandatory flu vaccine policies as a condition of employment.

Employers who create mandatory policies will have exemptions, of course. Exemptions are made for medical and religious exceptions. For places that do not have a mandatory flu vaccine, they may "strongly recommend" the vaccination and may have a declination form for employees to submit if they refuse the vaccine. Additionally, some employers will enforce refusers to wear a mask during flu season while they are at work in order to protect the patients and the employee.

What is the purpose behind the push toward flu vaccines?

Evidence has shown that there are more than 36,000 deaths in the US each year related to influenza, and more than 200,000 hospitalizations. Influenza is the 6th leading cause of death. Healthcare workers are the leading cause of influenza outbreaks in the healthcare system. up to 50% of people who are infected by the flu virus do not fill ill for several days and can spread the virus to people at risk of complications and death from the flu. Additionally, evidence shows vaccination decreases mortality by 40%, decreases the spread of nosocomial infections by 43%, and decreases absenteeism by 20-30%.

Additionally, there is the ethics to consider. As healthcare workers, we have all taken an oath to "do no harm". As a nurse caring for patients who are not in their most physically healthy state, do we take the vaccination in order to prevent spreading the flu to our vulnerable patients, in order to "do no harm"? We must consider this when we make our decision to take or refuse the vaccination.

What hospitals have created a mandatory flu vaccine policy?

I have the names of a few hospitals, and this is by no means a comprehensive list. This is based on a ListServe survey of hospitals and these are the responses received:

  • Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (Philadelphia, PA) - since 2009
  • Children's Mercy Hospitals and Clinics (Kansas City, MO)
  • Children's Colorado (Aurora, CO)
  • Children's Hospital of the King's Daughters (Norfolk, VA)
  • Children's Medical Center Dallas (Dallas, TX) - since 2012
  • Riley Children's (Indianapolis, IN) - since 2012
  • East Tennessee Children's (Knoxville, TX) - since 2013
  • Boston Children's (Boston, MA)
  • Sharp Mary Birch Hospital for Women and Newborns (San Diego, CA) - since 2013
  • Roger Williams Medical Center (Providence, RI)
  • Brookwood Medical Center (Birmingham, AL)
  • Johns Hopkins (all hospitals/clinics) (Baltimore, MD)
  • Driscoll Children's Hospital (Corpus Christi, TX)
  • Spohn Health System (Corpus Christi / San Antonio, TX)
  • All Connecticut Hospitals

What are some reasons that people refuse the flu vaccine?

Refusal may be largely due to misconceptions related to the vaccine. Fears that the immune system will cause them to get the flu, beliefs that hygiene and better nutrition are more helpful than the vaccine, fear of needles, beliefs that the vaccine does not work, and fear of side effects. Others believe that they have a constitutional right to refuse the vaccine and that mandatory policies are violating these rights.

Common concerns and myths about the flu vaccination

(taken from the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health outline of flu vaccine talking points for managers)

The flu shot will give me the flu

The flu shot does not give people the flu. It uses inactivated ("dead") virus. People may still catch a cold or other virus that the vaccine is not designed match.

I don't believe the flu vaccine actually works

Studies have shown that flu vaccination prevents flu in 70% to 90% of healthy adults younger than 65 years old.

I had the vaccination last year

You need a new vaccine every year - the virus changes over time.

What about possible adverse reactions

Serious adverse reactions are very rare. They are explained on the CDC's Vaccine Information Statement, which is distributed when the vaccine is administered.

Local short-term reactions - such soreness at the vaccination site, slight fever, achy feeling - may occur but usually do not last long. Over the counter medicines are helpful. Even short-term reactions are much less bothersome than catching the flu and feeling very sick for days.

I'm not in a high-risk group

Your patients are at-risk, and possibly some friends and family members. You can be infected with the flu virus but not feel ill - and can still transmit flu to at-risk patients.

The flu vaccine made every year does not match the circulating flu strain

Inactivated influenza vaccine is effective in preventing transmission and reducing complications of the flu. In years when there is a close match between the vaccine and circulating virus strains, the vaccine prevents illness among approximately 70%--90% of healthy adults under 65 years of age. Vaccinating healthy adults also has been proven to lead to decreased work absenteeism and use of health-care resources, including use of antibiotics. Strong protection is also expected when the vaccine is not a close match with circulating strains, with 50%--77% effectiveness in these instances. In addition, effectiveness against influenza-related hospitalization for healthy adults from inactivated vaccine is estimated at 90%.

Knowledge is Power

All healthcare facilities will be facing the choice of creating a mandatory influenza vaccination in the near future, if they have not already. In order to make an informed decision on the topic, we must have information. Knowledge is power. Before you make a blanket statement on pros or cons, have the information you need, know the research, and make an educated decision.

Please respond to this article by answering the following questions:

  1. Do you take the flu vaccine yearly? If you do not, what is the reason you do not participate (if you don't mind answering this question)?
  2. Does your employer have a mandatory influenza vaccination policy as a condition of employment? If yes, where do you work?
  3. What concerns do you have about the flu vaccine?
  4. Do you know if anyone who has been released from their job because they did not get the flu vaccine?

References

American Association of Family Practitioners. (2011). AAFP supports mandatory flu vaccinations for healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: AAFP Supports Mandatory Flu Vaccinations for Health Care Personnel

ATrain. (2014). To accept or refuse the flu vaccine. Retrieved from: ZZZ_133_Influenza: Module 7

CDC. (2014). Vaccination: Who should do it, who should not and who should take precautions. Retrieved from: Vaccination: Who Should Do It, Who Should Not and Who Should Take Precautions | Seasonal Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Influenza Action Coalition. (2015). Influenza vaccination honor roll. Retrieved from: Honor Roll: Mandatory Influenza Vaccination Policies for Healthcare Personnel

Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. (2014). Talking points for managers. Retrieved from: http://tinyurl.com/p6nbg2u

National adult and influenza immunization summit. (2015). Vaccinating healthcare personnel. Retrieved from: Vaccinating Healthcare Personnel - National Adult and Influenza Immunization Summit

NursingTimes. (2014). Why do health workers decline flu vaccination? Retrieved from: http://www.nursingtimes.net/Journals/2014/11/28/y/k/x/031214-Why-do-health-workers-decline-flu-vaccination.pdf

TJC. (2012). R3 Report: Requirement, rationale, reference. Retrieved from: http://www.jointcommission.org/assets/1/18/R3_Report_Issue_3_5_18_12_final.pdf

Specializes in critical care.
I just wanted to say that after making it (almost all the way) through this thread, I will be getting a flu shot this year for the first time in my life (28 years). I'm deathly afraid of needles, which is the biggest reason I've never gotten one, but I haven't ever considered that I may be spreading an illness to other people, even if I don't feel the symptoms myself. I should have realized this because I have taken nursing courses and know these things, but it's just something that hasn't registered until now.

So thanks for opening my eyes about this guys. :)

This is part of what makes nursing so awesome! Public education on the topic of vaccine benefits lacks in this area. This is part of the reason (in my opinion) for vaccine resisters not getting vaccinated. You as an individual do get benefits from it, but with a healthy immune system, you weren't likely to experience terrible consequences from the flu itself if you aren't in a high-risk category. But your grandma, your infant, your pregnant BFF, your asthmatic brother - plus your patients.... You are protecting them.

If your nursing program has a community health class and clinical, your instructor might get into this and other related topics, including the ethics involved. My own instructor opened the first class with an introduction stating that many of the topics we were going to discuss would be a struggle for some of us because we would be diving into topics related to protecting the public as a whole at the cost of removing personal freedoms. Community and public health can be a real challenge to personal beliefs.

Specializes in Long Term Acute Care, TCU.
being less than 100% effective is NOT the same as being ineffective. I am also anti-vaccines that don't work- namely so-called homeopathic nosodes.

When you have a 99.019% vaccination rate, then the theoretical herd-immunity should prevent any infections.

If you put 101 blue chips and one red chip in a hat, then you should not draw out 18 red chips.

These were strong, healthy sailors that received the flu vaccine. Plus, I believe the vaccine was a match for the strain that they were positive for.

Is it possible that they created a SUPER H3N2? I hope that the CDC drew blood from each one of those sailors and conducted studies to determine what happened.

BTW, someone made the statement that it may have been worse if they had not been vaccinated.

I defer to my earlier post in which the (hypothetical) doctor tells a car vs pedestrian victim that they were lucky that the car hit them before the bus came along.

Specializes in Reproductive & Public Health.
concerned lady said:
Hi Morte,

I agree when you wrote:

How about by using the scientific method to construct and conduct legitimate research to find out??

please do, and maintain scientific rigor. not looking for the results that you wish for.

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I was quite surprised and shocked actually, that so-called double blind vaccine experiements/studies, can and actually do, use FAKE placebos, meaning:

The "placebo" is NOT a real placebo, but is, in fact, ANOTHER VACCINE!

So, I am waiting for evidence, that REAL "double blind" experiments/studies, using a REAL PLACEBO (Di-hydrogen mono oxide/water/H2O, etc., for example) have actually been done, regarding vaccines.

So far, I haven't seen any such evidence. No scientific rigor seen, so far.

As I already mentioned, the reason we do not do such studies is simple. CLINICAL EQUIPOISE. It would be unethical.

Hi Cayenne06,

Don't pharmaceutical companies do real double blind studies on non-vaccine drugs, in which they use REAL placebos?

And, in such cases, isn't this ethical (to find out true efficacy of the drugs in question)?

Specializes in critical care.
concerned lady said:
Hi Cayenne06,

Don't pharmaceutical companies do real double blind studies on non-vaccine drugs, in which they use REAL placebos?

And, in such cases, isn't this ethical (to find out true efficacy of the drugs in question)?

I believe this would require exposing test subjects to the flu, vaccinated or not, to effectively determine efficacy of the flu vaccine. This is why it is unethical in my mind. Other medications in general are tested for already existing conditions.

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
concerned lady said:
Hi Cayenne06,

Don't pharmaceutical companies do real double blind studies on non-vaccine drugs, in which they use REAL placebos?

And, in such cases, isn't this ethical (to find out true efficacy of the drugs in question)?

Not always, especially in treatment comparison studies especially for a condition. Double blind studies do not need to have a placebo. It can be a known drug vs study drug. Such as EryPed vs awesomely cool new macrolide antibiotic. It's unethical to use a placebo in a phase three cancer trial. One group gets the standard treatment regimen and the second gets the study regimen. Only the pharmacist is unblinded as to who gets standard vs study.

Efficacy studies (phase 2b/3)do not need to use placebos. Pharmacokinetic & pharmacodynamic studies use placebos (phase 1/2a).

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Hi JustBeachyNurse,

You wrote, "....Double blind studies do not need to have a placebo...."

I think NOT having a placebo is UN-ETHICAL!

 

I think that pharmaceutical companies who AVOID using a placebo, have SOMETHING TO HIDE!

Specializes in Public Health, TB.
concerned lady said:
Love those cute comments about water (di-hydrogen mono-oxide/H2O), but seriously:

We avoid chlorinated and fluoridated water, and had our own well tested to be sure there were no contaminants.

There are adverse effects of chlorinated and fluoridated water, including (at least) the chlorine killing off friendly (probiotic) organisms in our guts/colons/large intestines, causing dysbiosis, and:

Fluoride weakens some bones, making fractures more likely.

Help me understand the difference between the chlorine we have in our stomach acid (HCl) and the minute amounts in chlorinated water. Ditto for the sodium chloride I add to my popcorn. I understand that in large doses, fluoride can weaken bones, but again, very small quantities is beneficial.

Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
concerned lady said:
Hi JustBeachyNurse,

You wrote, "....Double blind studies do not need to have a placebo...."

I think NOT having a placebo is UN-ETHICAL!

I think that pharmaceutical companies who AVOID using a placebo, have SOMETHING TO HIDE!

For treatment comparison it's unethical to have a placebo. So you think a diabetic willing to trial a new form of insulin in phase 3 studies should risk their life by possibly getting sugar water instead of study insulin? Or a child with cancer should not have access to the standard vs study drug protocol when the study drug PK/PD were tested vs placebo in healthy normal subjects?

In the safety and PK/PD studies (healthy normal phase 1/2a) it's necessary to have a placebo.

I think you need to learn about what is involved in clinical pharmaceutical trials at the different stages

Specializes in Critical Care.
concerned lady said:
Hi JustBeachyNurse,

You wrote, "....Double blind studies do not need to have a placebo...."

I think NOT having a placebo is UN-ETHICAL!

I think that pharmaceutical companies who AVOID using a placebo, have SOMETHING TO HIDE!

All vaccines licensed for use in the US must be evaluated by an RCT, so I'm not really sure where you're getting that vaccines aren't studied in trials with a control (placebo) group.

Specializes in Med-Surg, OB, ICU, Public Health Nursing.

Union says Ontario nurses can't be forced to wear masks in flu season | CTV News

After 911 the government tried to get every nurse in the US to take a smallpox vaccine. It was a dangerous attempt by the pharmaceutical companies to profit from a crisis. I am not anti-vaccine and have taken many. However, as soon as anyone tries to bully or shame me, I resist. I have never had a flu vaccine.

Specializes in Long Term Acute Care, TCU.
Union says Ontario nurses can't be forced to wear masks in flu season | CTV News

After 911 the government tried to get every nurse in the US to take a smallpox vaccine. It was a dangerous attempt by the pharmaceutical companies to profit from a crisis.

I believe that the CNA stopped that initiative dead in its tracks. I've had two smallpox vaccinations in my life. Once as a child and once at the MEPS. I would refuse a third simply because it gives me the Heebie-Jeebies just thinking about the way it is administered.