Termination From Employer For Refusing EUV

[RaineyRN7]

I am an Oncology nurse working for a hospital for more than 13 years. I live in California and there is now a mandate in place that is requiring me to be vaccinated before Sept. 30th or I will be terminated from my job. Not only do I not feel comfortable to receive a EUV that no long term studies have been documented because it is too new and not FDA approved but I have also witnessed friends as well as patients having severe side effects after receiving vaccination.

I am unclear how an employer has the LEGAL RIGHT to ask me personal questions about my religious beliefs or medical information (vaccination status), where are my HIPAA Rights. Employer vaccine mandates are subject to religious accommodation under the Title VII of the Civil rights act. For personal reasons I will be submitting for religious exemption to hopefully prevent me from losing my job. 

I'm not sure what the outcome will be but I am planning to seek employment elsewhere in case I do lose my job and likely it won't be in healthcare. I don't know if this will be the end of my nursing career and if it is I feel extremely sad about that. 

What happened to the phrase " my body my choice " ? 

I will not be forced to do anything to my body that I do not choose.

 Through scripture we know that God values our bodies. Our bodies are said to be a temple of the Holy Spirit, and we are called to take care of and honor God's temple. God's words lead use to use our bodies and the gifts He has given us to achieve the will of God.

[Horseshoe, BSN, RN]

1 hour ago, Alex Kowalcyk said:

Coercion, fraud, and/or deceit in relation to informed consent for participating in human medical experimentation is a violation of the Nuremberg Code.

Yeah OK, look forward to seeing that play out in courts REALLY soon..?

[toomuchbaloney]

19 minutes ago, Horseshoe said:

Yeah OK, look forward to seeing that play out in courts REALLY soon..?

I think that court date is the same day that Trump will finally be reinstated as president.  Not today but maybe next month?

[SmilingBluEyes]

7 hours ago, Thanksforthedonuts said:

What’s reckless? She has a choice to decide if she is at risk for developing serious disease or death. 

She’s working with immunocompromised patients.   That’s what’s reckless. 

[Soloist, LPN]

13 hours ago, Lorraine Shea said:

l not be forced to do anything to my body that I do not choose.

 Through scripture we know that God values our bodies. Our bodies are said to be a temple of the Holy Spirit, and we are called to take care of and honor God's temple. God's words lead use to use our bodies and the gifts He has given us to achieve the will of God.

Sounds to me like your religious belief isn't about a vaccine but more about personal freedom of choice. 

From someone who has a fairly strong religious belief and would not get the vaccine, I would urge you to work somewhere else other then a field with people who are particularly vulnerable to disease. I'm leaving nursing as soon as I have a reasonable option, maybe thats not an option for you... Perhaps you could look into non-bedside nursing something like telehealth? 

[FolksBtrippin, BSN, RN]

Don’t worry OP, there are plenty of places in the US where vaccines (and masking) are not valued and they have loads of dying people and not enough nurses. You can go work there. 

[guest1163268]

Nothing to see here!

It's no big deal when these people die! 

[macawake, MSN]

On 8/14/2021 at 4:25 AM, Curious1997 said:

Nothing to see here!

It's no big deal when these people die! 

It seems that there are more pediatric patients hospitalized in the U.S. now than at any other time of the pandemic and that hospitals in many states are really struggling to handle the big increase in cases in general.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mississippi-hospital-puts-beds-parking-garage-cope-with-covid-19-surge-2021-08-13/

This didn’t have to happen at this point in the pandemic. With the Delta variants’ higher transmissibility it is more important than ever to reach as high vaccine coverage as possible. Healthcare professionals are the last people who should be fighting this. We witness the result of insufficient vaccine uptake firsthand and have to deal with the fallout in the form of sick and dying human beings. Vaccines save lives. 

[guest1163268]

5 hours ago, Soloist said:

Sounds to me like your religious belief isn't about a vaccine but more about personal freedom of choice. 

From someone who has a fairly strong religious belief and would not get the vaccine, I would urge you to work somewhere else other then a field with people who are particularly vulnerable to disease. I'm leaving nursing as soon as I have a reasonable option, maybe thats not an option for you... Perhaps you could look into non-bedside nursing something like telehealth? 

Why is it that so many antivaxxers, antiscience, etc, are frequently religious and right wing judgmental people? Also why are they such HYPOCRITES! 

I think, just a theory that I have seen borne out over the years, is, those people are frequently very limited in education... unable or unwilling to ever explore or dissect anything that conflicts with their core beliefs! In other words, limited, blinkered vision! 

I've noticed that they revere their preachers and leaders etc, because initially words were offered that resonated with their problems, that prompted them to seek solace in the church to begin with. These words came straight from a Bible etc so their wasn't any need to think or invent the wisdom through experience or knowledge etc. 

At no point did anyone investigate this preacher's education or experience re, are they bright enough to be dispensing these words and what happens when the problem or situation is outside the experience of the preacher, eg medicine, etc etc. But, they have that covered with God's will! 

No one questions the charisma of this preacher and what qualifies him to stand up and tell others what to do or why is he so charming? 

Then there's the camaraderie and fellowship of others, You know, Birds of a feather? They stand back and feel sorry for the lost who haven't found God and judge their hedonism, abortionists etc and whisper etc etc. Isolated from the heathens who might contaminate them , BUT, when it's done to them, like non vaxxers etc, they cry loudest! Hypocrisy I say! The shoe is on the other foot! 

Here's the kicker! If that same charming, charismatic Preacher modified his message so it doesn't comport with the elders or congregation fully, eg, let's explore some scientific theories or medical studies like gayness or abortions etc, WATCH HOW QUICKLY HE'S ON THE BUS! 

Limited, blinkered, small minded, narrow visioned and hypocrites! And dangerous! 

HYPOCRITES! They had no problem subjugating and enslaving the entire world to spread their message of God's love and blessings etc, but us protecting ourselves from them, because they can kill us and our loved ones, OH No, we are infringing on their rights! 

Well, when you get ill, don't go to the Drs and institutions to help you get better! Stay at home or go to the church and pray! You didn't trust them before, why do you trust them now? 

[vintagegal, BSN, DNP, RN, NP]

I chose to get the vaccine back in January when it was very new and first offered to LTC. I was surprised to be the only RN in my area that was excited to receive the vaccine. On zoom meetings it was like you could hear a pin drop when we were asked how many would be vaccinated. Me, being the brave outspoken type that I am, proclaimed, “I will be getting the vaccine. First off, I have an immunocompromised family member receiving chemo treatments. Moreover, I am in my mid twenties and I will get the vaccine before you give it to any of my elderly patients- I can handle whatever happens I will be the guinea pig- not my sweet residents.” Yes I had terrible side effects both times. But I am relieved and would do it all again. Now as a hospice nurse I visit many LTC, ALF and private homes. People pop up positive from time to time. I feel protected and I feel I am protecting my family and my colleagues. It’s an unspoken elephant in the room but when a patient who doesn’t go anywhere and has us as visitors pops positive we all silently think to ourselves the most reasonable explanation is a non-vacccinated nurse was the one who probably spread it. Now I would never say that aloud or blame that nurse because we don’t know, but I feel more comfortable being vaccinated because I Am around very vulnerable people. I would rather their terminal illness claim there life than covid. Covid is a terrible way to die. 

Good luck on your journey and whatever you decide to do I hope it’s the best decision you can make with the information you have. I will not pass judgment because I’m not you, I only want to share with you a different perspective. Life is a kaleidoscope formed off of different experiences and points of view.

[Peachpit]

I'd like to know if where the OP works (or others on here who, for whatever reason, haven't taken the Covid vaccine) are mandated by their employers to have a yearly TB test or yearly flu vaccine in order to remain employed? 

Whether we like it or not, unless we own the companies we work for and can set the rules, it's the companies playground so to speak, not ours, so they can set the rules and we can either accept them or move along.

[Alex Kowalcyk]

15 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:

You have zero evidence of any of those things occurring relative to the covid vaccines. Your active and paranoid imagination isn't evidence of anything except your flawed reasoning.  

Censorship is deceit. Censorship is coercion. Use of polymerase chain reaction as a diagnostic tool constitutes fraud. I guess the censorship is working because apparently you aren't aware of many things.

[toomuchbaloney]

7 minutes ago, Alex Kowalcyk said:

Censorship is deceit. Censorship is coercion. Use of polymerase chain reaction as a diagnostic tool constitutes fraud. I guess the censorship is working because apparently you aren't aware of many things.

Is your objective to spread covid nonsense in these threads? Now you're whining about censorship too. You are so far down the rabbit hole of covidiocy...I'm interested in you sharing a couple of examples of the "censored" content that you find so compelling...call it morbid curiosity...what kind of sick crap are you consuming?