I am an Oncology nurse working for a hospital for more than 13 years. I live in California and there is now a mandate in place that is requiring me to be vaccinated before Sept. 30th or I will be terminated from my job. Not only do I not feel comfortable to receive a EUV that no long term studies have been documented because it is too new and not FDA approved but I have also witnessed friends as well as patients having severe side effects after receiving vaccination.
I am unclear how an employer has the LEGAL RIGHT to ask me personal questions about my religious beliefs or medical information (vaccination status), where are my HIPAA Rights. Employer vaccine mandates are subject to religious accommodation under the Title VII of the Civil rights act. For personal reasons I will be submitting for religious exemption to hopefully prevent me from losing my job.
I'm not sure what the outcome will be but I am planning to seek employment elsewhere in case I do lose my job and likely it won't be in healthcare. I don't know if this will be the end of my nursing career and if it is I feel extremely sad about that.
What happened to the phrase " my body my choice " ?
I will not be forced to do anything to my body that I do not choose.
Through scripture we know that God values our bodies. Our bodies are said to be a temple of the Holy Spirit, and we are called to take care of and honor God's temple. God's words lead use to use our bodies and the gifts He has given us to achieve the will of God.
I don't think that's a fair statement. Advocating for a patient doesn't mean having total disregard for one's self.
We have to stop treating people with a different view on the vaccine as if they're not caring nurses.
Don't negotiate the safety of patients. The "nurses view" who don't want the vaccines, without medical issues or valid reasons, aren't very cute to the jury.
There are jobs out there or start their own hospitals. They can all work together. They can welcome whoever they want.
Don't negotiate the safety of patients. The "nurses view" who don't want the vaccines, without medical issues or valid reasons, aren't very cute to the jury.
There are jobs out there or start their own hospitals. They can all work together. They can welcome whoever they want.
I am an Oncology nurse working for a hospital for more than 13 years. I live in California and there is now a mandate in place that is requiring me to be vaccinated before Sept. 30th or I will be terminated from my job. Not only do I not feel comfortable to receive a EUV that no long term studies have been documented because it is too new and not FDA approved but I have also witnessed friends as well as patients having severe side effects after receiving vaccination.
I am unclear how an employer has the LEGAL RIGHT to ask me personal questions about my religious beliefs or medical information (vaccination status), where are my HIPAA Rights. Employer vaccine mandates are subject to religious accommodation under the Title VII of the Civil rights act. For personal reasons I will be submitting for religious exemption to hopefully prevent me from losing my job.
I'm not sure what the outcome will be but I am planning to seek employment elsewhere in case I do lose my job and likely it won't be in healthcare. I don't know if this will be the end of my nursing career and if it is I feel extremely sad about that.
What happened to the phrase " my body my choice " ?
I will not be forced to do anything to my body that I do not choose.
Through scripture we know that God values our bodies. Our bodies are said to be a temple of the Holy Spirit, and we are called to take care of and honor God's temple. God's words lead use to use our bodies and the gifts He has given us to achieve the will of God.
How is this off point? It's another good reason for hospitals to terminate non-vaccinated nurses. What employer in their right mind wants to hire un-vaccinated workers? Only the ones that can't get anyone to work for them.
Don't need to. I didn't question if the law supports firing an employee over a vaccination. The OP did cite an intent to request accommodation due to their religion so they'll have to see if that works for them. The reason I said you're off point is I was responding to people making assertions about the OPs thoughts or intentions. Not if it was legal to terminate
Millions of us "PoCs" think otherwise and understand the tremendous opportunity America brings us. Much better than my home country of Cuba. Success is so easy in America and I love waking up here everyday. Its a shame not everyone shares my same respect of the tremendous opportunity we all have.
Objectively speaking as a PoC, many things are way more difficult for Indigenous People, and ADOS than immigrants. Hell, for many Americans period, everyday life is a very poor existence, with minimal to no opportunity, regardless of race. Success is *not so easy* in America, and while *it is* a shame not everyone has your respect of the perceived American opportunity, it is quite understandable why folks feel the way they do.
Not at all taking away your thoughts and validity of your opinions, just offering another perspective.
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On 8/13/2021 at 4:27 PM, Alex Kowalcyk said:
Hi Lorraine, what they are mandating you to do may not be in violation of HIPAA law, but it most certainly is in abject violation of The Nuremberg Code (1947). Don't mind those replies you got from naive nurses on this board. Being on the wrong side of history while it repeats itself is like failing an open-book test. Keep strong and stand in your truth.
"1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge or comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment."
If I could underline above I would underline the words 'fraud,' 'deceit,' and 'coercion.' Soon, the way it is going, we may have to consider that word, 'force.'
Alex Kowalcyk, CCRN
This post would make more sense if the OP or anyone else was being forced to take the vaccine.
Don't need to. I didn't question if the law supports firing an employee over a vaccination. The OP did cite an intent to request accommodation due to their religion so they'll have to see if that works for them. The reason I said you're off point is I was responding to people making assertions about the OPs thoughts or intentions. Not if it was legal to terminate
... I don't feel the need to argue for this matter. The OP needs to be able to move forward. I'm "asserting" reasonably. I'm actually helping the OP to figure out...
Don't need to. I didn't question if the law supports firing an employee over a vaccination. The OP did cite an intent to request accommodation due to their religion so they'll have to see if that works for them. The reason I said you're off point is I was responding to people making assertions about the OPs thoughts or intentions. Not if it was legal to terminate
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As did I. It started with HEP B series.