I am an Oncology nurse working for a hospital for more than 13 years. I live in California and there is now a mandate in place that is requiring me to be vaccinated before Sept. 30th or I will be terminated from my job. Not only do I not feel comfortable to receive a EUV that no long term studies have been documented because it is too new and not FDA approved but I have also witnessed friends as well as patients having severe side effects after receiving vaccination.
I am unclear how an employer has the LEGAL RIGHT to ask me personal questions about my religious beliefs or medical information (vaccination status), where are my HIPAA Rights. Employer vaccine mandates are subject to religious accommodation under the Title VII of the Civil rights act. For personal reasons I will be submitting for religious exemption to hopefully prevent me from losing my job.
I'm not sure what the outcome will be but I am planning to seek employment elsewhere in case I do lose my job and likely it won't be in healthcare. I don't know if this will be the end of my nursing career and if it is I feel extremely sad about that.
What happened to the phrase " my body my choice " ?
I will not be forced to do anything to my body that I do not choose.
Through scripture we know that God values our bodies. Our bodies are said to be a temple of the Holy Spirit, and we are called to take care of and honor God's temple. God's words lead use to use our bodies and the gifts He has given us to achieve the will of God.
I share your sentiment about this. While I don't dispute COVID overwhelms the healthcare system or condone anyone being careless about its spread, I find it ironic that those who make that complaint aren't equally as fired up about the sedentary, the morbidly obese, the smokers, the alcoholics, drug abusers, diabetics (not type 1) and other patients chronically ill due to poor life choices and their impact on the healthcare system. I'm in no way saying the aforementioned peolle should be mistreated in any way. It's ironic how people come here to cry foul about the unvaccinated when millions stress the healthcare system routinely at the expense of others.
By the way, there's a couple people you're replying to that, no matter WHAT you say, no matter what evidence or information you provide, they'll meet you with snide remarks chastising you for not sharing their perspective.
They don’t seem to get it at all. Which is why the nursing profession will never advance.
I don't think that's a fair statement. Advocating for a patient doesn't mean having total disregard for one's self.
We have to stop treating people with a different view on the vaccine as if they're not caring nurses.
We signed up for vaccines when we became nurses. This will all become moot when the EUA is lifted in the next coming weeks. I haven't seen anyone who posted a rational argument for not taking this particular vaccine when they took all the others.
I don't think that's a fair statement. Advocating for a patient doesn't mean having total disregard for one's self.
We have to stop treating people with a different view on the vaccine as if they're not caring nurses.
A nurse that knowingly puts their (immunocompromised) patients at higher risk of severe Covid and death by refusing to vaccinate themselves is not keeping their patients' best interests at heart, which is their job. I understand that this may be an uncomfortable thought to digest. It is what is is, though.
A nurse that knowingly puts their (immunocompromised) patients at higher risk of severe Covid and death by refusing to vaccinate themselves is not keeping their patients' best interests at heart, which is their job. I understand that this may be an uncomfortable thought to digest. It is what is is, though.
Some people have a different view about the vaccine. As wrong as you think they are, personal attacks aren't changing anything. Making presumptions that they're "looking out for number one" doesn't either.
How hypocritical is it to take pride in caring for people only to defer that skill being overtaken by emotional outrage towards our peers?
Imagine if all the nurses that trashed the OP focused on education and reassurance instead. they may have had a change of heart.
I say this so many times in this forum yet people cling to their need to be hateful rather than be the better nurse compared to their contrarions.
We signed up for vaccines when we became nurses. This will all become moot when the EUA is lifted in the next coming weeks. I haven't seen anyone who posted a rational argument for not taking this particular vaccine when they took all the others.
That's a broad statement. We don't sign up for vaccines blindly for being a nurse. I get what you're trying to say I just don't agree with how it's worded. I appreciate you advocate for COVID vaccination and won't dispute you on that.
People have posted what they consider valid reasons. People disagree.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
4 minutes ago, jive turkey said:
People have posted what they consider valid reasons. People disagree.
Belief that they are valid reasons in the absence of evidence that they are valid reasons...
The experts disagree with that poorly sourced reasoning. The public health recommendations are in conflict with the beliefs of those unvaccinated people.
Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.
16 minutes ago, jive turkey said:
Some people have a different view about the vaccine. As wrong as you think they are, personal attacks aren't changing anything. Making presumptions that they're "looking out for number one" doesn't either.
How hypocritical is it to take pride in caring for people only to defer that skill being overtaken by emotional outrage towards our peers?
Imagine if all the nurses that trashed the OP focused on education and reassurance instead. they may have had a change of heart.
I say this so many times in this forum yet people cling to their need to be hateful rather than be the better nurse compared to their contrarions.
Where were you personally attacked? Your viewpoint was, you were not.
Specializes in Psych, Addictions, SOL (Student of Life).
2 hours ago, jive turkey said:
Some people have a different view about the vaccine. As wrong as you think they are, personal attacks aren't changing anything. Making presumptions that they're "looking out for number one" doesn't either.
How hypocritical is it to take pride in caring for people only to defer that skill being overtaken by emotional outrage towards our peers?
Imagine if all the nurses that trashed the OP focused on education and reassurance instead. they may have had a change of heart.
I say this so many times in this forum yet people cling to their need to be hateful rather than be the better nurse compared to their contrarions.
I for one have not trashed the OP although I did point out that sources used to bolster the claims made did not stand up to vigorous vetting The first thing we learn about using the internet for research is to be skeptical of information found on websites where we are being asked to buy something. In my own practice I have a co-worker (Not an RN) who is very skeptical and fearful of the vaccine and would rather loose her job than get the vaccine. She is an extremely good worker and I will miss her. Still When I offered to educate her and answer her questions she put up huge barriers to any information I tried to provide.
Not a personal attack but it does seem that most of the vaccine hesitant professionals I come across seem to be very gullible and will follow the advice of a defunct Osteopath who has made millions peddling disinformation about all vaccines (Covid being the main target now) while peddling vitamin supplements which he claims can "Stop" just about any disease process in it's tracks." These claims have no scientific legitimacy and only serve to line his pockets with cash and there was that other guy (Not Trump) who claimed he could cure covid if the patient drank his special drink which turned out to be industrial strength bleach. I guess the claim is true since drinking industrial strength will kill you so I guess it does cure covid after a fashion.
Still the Pfizer vaccine is scheduled to meet full FDA approval as soon as Monday 8/23/21 or possibly as late as Friday 8/27/21. So it will no longer be an EUA and I wonder what rationale the vaccine hesitant will use then since the idea of it being experimental will be moot.
What I have seen is those on the side of universal vaccination keep asking for the vaccine hesitant on this thread to provide the source material for vetting but they continue to refuse which indicates a lack of faith in that information.
Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.
2 minutes ago, hppygr8ful said:
Still the Pfizer vaccine is scheduled to meet full FDA approval as soon as Monday 8/23/21 or possibly as late as Friday 8/27/21. So it will no longer be an EUA and I wonder what rationale the vaccine hesitant will use then since the idea of it being experimental will be moot.
What I have seen is those on the side of universal vaccination keep asking for the vaccine hesitant on this thread to provide the source material for vetting but they continue to refuse which indicates a lack of faith in that information.
Hppy
I have yet to see truly reliable and credible sources supporting their point of view either. Challenging them (their POV) is the new "attack" I guess.
That's a broad statement. We don't sign up for vaccines blindly for being a nurse. I get what you're trying to say I just don't agree with how it's worded. I appreciate you advocate for COVID vaccination and won't dispute you on that.
People have posted what they consider valid reasons. People disagree.
I'm pretty sure that I got a good idea of a vaccinated future when I had my physical for nursing school.
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They don’t seem to get it at all. Which is why the nursing profession will never advance.