Published May 9, 2020
EDScrubLife77
3 Posts
I can’t figure out how to change my handle, but I’ve now been a nurse for 4 years, and I’m the ED for 2. I of course see positive COVID patients, but I always wear the proper PPE, don and doffing appropriately, change out of my scrubs at work, and shower as soon as I get home. Other than work, I’ve left my house very minimally and only saw a few select people from over 6 feet away. I’ve done my best to follow all state guidelines.
The area where I live is starting phased reopening next week. I already have been invited to a (very small) family gathering after that time. I know most people in my life will very cautiously start to begin some sort of normal life. But my question for my fellow nurses is this: as someone who takes care of COVID patients, at what point will you be comfortable being around others either in your family or in the community? I know we can be seeing COVID patients for the next few months if not years and isolating for that whole span would obviously not be feasible.
A Hit With The Ladies, BSN, RN
408 Posts
I'm already comfortable seeing family or others in the community. Remember that children's story The Emperor Has No Clothes? Most of us are going to end up getting Corona sooner or later, yet few (if any) are willing to publicly say it. Even if social distancing "slows down" the spread of Coronavirus to about 2,000 fatalities a day, that still leaves several hundred thousand who are dead by the end of the year. A grim statistic, to be sure, but we could be spared much economic misery and social upheaval if we ripped this bandage off quickly and went full-blown Sweden herd immunity already. That's what I think.
emtb2rn, BSN, RN, EMT-B
2,942 Posts
Floor_Nurse
173 Posts
The response to that can be read in numerous places here at AllNurses. It's pretty obvious that the weight of politics is challenging medical common sense. But how are we to keep everything shut down when people need jobs? My sister-in-law, who has a Master's degree, has not received anything from unemployment, no stimulus check yet, and has run out of money. I sent her some money but I can't support her through the entire Summer. I'm not so sure that shutting down America for more months to come is a good idea.
Uroboros, APRN
61 Posts
First, it's quite admirable or even noble you even have the presence of mind to consider ongoing social isolation beyond our present day to day circumstances, but maintain a healthy self awareness of the lasting health effects of that even. My spouse and I currently work in high volume COVID testing centers as well. In fact my site was the first one in a very large urban county and part of a chain of the initial drive through options state wide. We continue to relentlessly test daily, especially now that rapid antibody testing available, with walk in and drive through options lining the street it seems. My spouse works in a free standing ED part of the same system, where like you, there is confirmed critical COVID daily. Needless to say, we have installed an airlock adjacent to our Tesla powerwall in the garage, or so it seems. We have not physically visited our extended family in months, nor plan to, until the data is more clear. But we are wearing out some ZOOM meetings, with the occasional amusing hacks. We were off nursing websites like this for years as well, but recently rejoined to cyber-social in some down time. Point is you find a way to stay connected.
Really the decision is yours to make. Just like we are taking it week to week with extreme caution. Do what's best for your family, because that's all that matters. You'll get a profundity of recommendations and additional personal experiences to follow. But in the end, decision is yours and yours alone. But I sincerely empathize with your position, and commend your efforts to be as informed as possible. Trust facts, trust data, trust patterns, least of all trust people.
AutumnLeaves, MSN, RN, NP
44 Posts
I have now been voluntarily isolated from my friends since early March.My family live in other states and I haven't seen them in months. I am 63,work FT and am exposed to COVID 19 patients. I decided in March that I wasn't comfortable exposing my friends,most of whom are older than I and some have chronic conditions. So back to now. I have been musing on when it will be safe to see anyone, even at 6 feet and with masks. I have decided that it's too soon for me. Our state is opening up and I fully expect an influx of cases.I can't advise others as what to do, this is just my humble opinion.
Kitiger, RN
1,834 Posts
It's a given that the infection rate in the community is going to go up. I don't have known COVID contact at this time, but my clients are high risk. (I work private duty home care.) We are trying to protect these high risk people. I don't know how long we will be able to do so, but it's worth trying.
I'm sitting back and watching. Because I'm working full time, I do get out of the house, but that's about the only reason I go out.
I'm content to watch and wait.
I don't know how to remove Amazon's little advertisement with "watch"
caliotter3
38,333 Posts
I think this is probably foolish and too early. I intend to hunker down even more than I am already. Of the five major underlying conditions I've seen listed, I fall under four of them. I have no reason to expose myself any more than I have to at this point. If it buys me one more day, even with less than great health, it buys me one more day. That's how I see it.
laurinemory
8 Posts
I only see my family/friends from (well over) 6 feet distance, and I only go out for necessities like groceries, while wearing a mask and, obviously, practicing social distancing and hand hygiene. I will not feel comfortable until I have either had COVID and recovered or there's a vaccine. I would be heartbroken if I got one of my family members or friends sick. It is a hard pill to swallow, but the virus is highly contagious and the mortality rate is 3-4% so far. The choice is clear for me.
db2xs
733 Posts
I have not stopped seeing patients throughout this whole situation, but no COVID-positive patients so far. Last week I made my first "social" visit with a friend for the first time in two months. We both wore masks and sat probably 10 feet away from each other.
I feel comfortable going out and seeing maybe one, two people together with good distancing but I am unsure of when I will feel comfortable going out in larger numbers. I work with a very vulnerable population and am aware that I can be a potential vector. Now that states and communities are relaxing the sheltering-in-place rules, I am curious to see how much of an uptick in illnesses we see, and with testing that is becoming more available.
Nurse SMS, MSN, RN
6,843 Posts
On 5/9/2020 at 8:03 AM, A Hit With The Ladies said:I'm already comfortable seeing family or others in the community. Remember that children's story The Emperor Has No Clothes? Most of us are going to end up getting Corona sooner or later, yet few (if any) are willing to publicly say it. Even if social distancing "slows down" the spread of Coronavirus to about 2,000 fatalities a day, that still leaves several hundred thousand who are dead by the end of the year. A grim statistic, to be sure, but we could be spared much economic misery and social upheaval if we ripped this bandage off quickly and went full-blown Sweden herd immunity already. That's what I think.
Except, of course that we have no idea yet if permanent immunity is possible with this virus.
I have seen my mother twice in the last three months, each time from six feet away in the out of doors. I have seen my adult children once, same, situation, on Mother's Day. We have done one outdoor happy hour with our two closest friends, six feet apart.
I think this is very much, at this point, up to your personal level of comfort.
Marisette, BSN, RN
376 Posts
On 5/9/2020 at 1:31 PM, caliotter3 said:I think this is probably foolish and too early. I intend to hunker down even more than I am already. Of the five major underlying conditions I've seen listed, I fall under four of them. I have no reason to expose myself any more than I have to at this point. If it buys me one more day, even with less than great health, it buys me one more day. That's how I see it.
It sounds wise to hunker down for awhile while waiting for more effective treatments if your over 60 and with comorbid conditions. Unfortunately, it may not be economically possible for all of us. Health insurance is very expensive and tied to our jobs. Some of us don't have the option of saying "we're going to get in anyway". I was furloghed with two and a half months of insurance. If I had the option, I would hunker down for awhile longer.