State Mandates Restricting Travel to Other States - What Do You Think?

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What are some of your thoughts on state mandates restricting travel to and from other states or requiring a quarantine.

I think states do have the right to govern their states as they deem to be the best for the state. I want to think it is about safety and the health and wellbeing of others,  however, at one point is it too much. For example, if I want to travel to state A with my family, not go out to bars, etc, same patterns as if I am at home, what is the difference what state I am in. It seems some states have restrictions and others do not, and it doesn't appear that travel is the main cause for COVID spread.

I realize we are only 6/7 months into this pandemic and things change all the time, just feeling a little down and frustrated about travel restrictions and wanting to just have a break besides my own area. 

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I don't understand how this quarantine law can be enforced within a nation?

Does anyone know?

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no restrictions in florida that I know of

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The travel restrictions in NY are simply a show that "King" Cuomo put into place to make himself look better since he had signed an order early on sending elderly LTC residents back to LTC facilities that were still COVID positive, therefore infecting whole facilities and causing the deaths of a significant number of these patients. This is strictly a political move for a man that wants to run for president the next go around. This restriction made it impossible for me to see my mother in a long term care facility in NY, since you also have to be tested COVID negative within 7 days of visiting a person in a facility. My father and brother have to be tested every week in order to get to visit my mom. I haven't been able to see her in almost a year now. It's very painful. 

I live in a tourist entertainment state. So I will have no problems. It is the people who can't come to my state who will not like it.  Besides people, in my opinion, have no right to complain about any sacrifices that will come now that we have President Biden. Take it all with a big smile, and if you don't you are not a patriot. Any lockdown or restrictions is for the better.

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2 hours ago, DesiDani said:

I live in a tourist entertainment state. So I will have no problems. It is the people who can't come to my state who will not like it.  Besides people, in my opinion, have no right to complain about any sacrifices that will come now that we have President Biden. Take it all with a big smile, and if you don't you are not a patriot. Any lockdown or restrictions is for the better.

He’s not President yet. He’s President-Elect

To me he is President Biden. Trump is out and Biden is in.

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Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
2 hours ago, DesiDani said:

To me he is President Biden. Trump is out and Biden is in.

I think the point is that Biden has no power or authority until inauguration which is in January 2021.  He is not the President at the moment.

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On 11/5/2020 at 3:50 AM, beachynurse said:

The travel restrictions in NY are simply a show that "King" Cuomo put into place to make himself look better since he had signed an order early on sending elderly LTC residents back to LTC facilities that were still COVID positive, therefore infecting whole facilities and causing the deaths of a significant number of these patients. This is strictly a political move for a man that wants to run for president the next go around. This restriction made it impossible for me to see my mother in a long term care facility in NY, since you also have to be tested COVID negative within 7 days of visiting a person in a facility. My father and brother have to be tested every week in order to get to visit my mom. I haven't been able to see her in almost a year now. It's very painful. 

That's not really accurate.  Epidemiological studies haven't supported the claim that patients who were admitted to hospitals after contracting COVID in nursing homes and then discharged back to those nursing homes were the cause of spikes in nursing home cases, mainly because the spikes and peaks occurred before these patients were discharged back to nursing homes.  Transmission tracing also doesn't support this, staff were the primary source of transmission followed by visitors.  The premise is this false claim is just generally pretty fishy since these patients were returning to the nursing homes where they caught COVID, so clearly COVID was already present in these nursing homes.

Being "still COVID positive" is not an indicator that someone infectious since what these tests looked for was small remnants of virus, which can still be present for weeks after the patient is no longer infectious.

The effects of continuing to keep these patients in hospitals indefinitely however would have been catastrophic.  As it was, NY area hospitals were rationing resources down to patients who were very likely to die without treatment, the 6000 patients who didn't actually require hospital care would have taken away life-saving resources for a few thousand people, all while keeping them in the hospital would have done little to change what was happening in the nursing homes.

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3 hours ago, MunoRN said:

That's not really accurate.  Epidemiological studies haven't supported the claim that patients who were admitted to hospitals after contracting COVID in nursing homes and then discharged back to those nursing homes were the cause of spikes in nursing home cases, mainly because the spikes and peaks occurred before these patients were discharged back to nursing homes.  Transmission tracing also doesn't support this, staff were the primary source of transmission followed by visitors.  The premise is this false claim is just generally pretty fishy since these patients were returning to the nursing homes where they caught COVID, so clearly COVID was already present in these nursing homes.

Being "still COVID positive" is not an indicator that someone infectious since what these tests looked for was small remnants of virus, which can still be present for weeks after the patient is no longer infectious.

The effects of continuing to keep these patients in hospitals indefinitely however would have been catastrophic.  As it was, NY area hospitals were rationing resources down to patients who were very likely to die without treatment, the 6000 patients who didn't actually require hospital care would have taken away life-saving resources for a few thousand people, all while keeping them in the hospital would have done little to change what was happening in the nursing homes.

Good post.  Over and over again conservatives bring up that point all these months later to criticize New York.   New York was the epicenter of the world dealing with a near disaster at the time.

 Also, if you look at percentage of overall deaths compared the rate of deaths in nursing homes in New York is lower than dozens of other states including where I live in Florida.  The county I live had a particularly high rate of deaths in nursing homes because we're a retirement area and have a lot of nursing homes and it's the health care workers that bring it in.  Nursing home infections in the hard hit midwest are on the rise today.

 

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On 11/5/2020 at 2:50 AM, beachynurse said:

The travel restrictions in NY are simply a show that "King" Cuomo put into place to make himself look better since he had signed an order early on sending elderly LTC residents back to LTC facilities that were still COVID positive, therefore infecting whole facilities and causing the deaths of a significant number of these patients. This is strictly a political move for a man that wants to run for president the next go around. This restriction made it impossible for me to see my mother in a long term care facility in NY, since you also have to be tested COVID negative within 7 days of visiting a person in a facility. My father and brother have to be tested every week in order to get to visit my mom. I haven't been able to see her in almost a year now. It's very painful. 

Nonsense. 

When you call Cuomo "king" for attempting to slow a highly contagious pathogen while the federal government twiddled it's tiny thumbs, your opinion loses significant credibility for many people. 

Just for giggles, if Cuomo should be vilified for what happened in NY how vilified should Trump be for what is and has been happening in the nation? Trump is responsible for the wide spread unmasked spread of the virus because of his intentional actions and words. 

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On 10/20/2020 at 8:35 AM, Jedrnurse said:

I think requiring quarantine upon return from a "hot zone" is okay, restricting travel is not. My state has the quarantine policy in effect.
 

I agree with that self quarantine for a few weeks just to monitor possible symptoms

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At this point I am so confused and yes, irritated by the whole thing. Why is it OK to ban social gatherings including weddings and funerals but it's OK to attend a political rally or protest? I honestly don't get the mindset here. I'm pretty sure those affected by a death in their family and those couples either postponing or greatly downsizing their wedding would agree. 

As for the proposed travel bans, in states that either aren't enacting public health mandates or not enforcing the one's they have I don't see that changing anytime soon. Those state's that are at least attempting to curtail the spread are facing serious difficulties with public compliance so I don't think any further restrictions will make much of a difference to those that just aren't going to follow them anyway.  

Short of everybody deciding to do their part in reducing virus spread which I just don't see happening I don't know what else we can do.   It's just so frustrating knowing I'm doing what's necessary yet I am still at risk of exposure every time I leave my house because other people aren't following basic public safety measures.

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