Many ADN-BSN online programs tried to deceive students into believing that they can get their BSN from ADN in 13 months or less. That's a lie and false advertisement. They are not telling the whole story.
For example, University of Texas at Arlington advertises this past spring that you can get your degree from ADN to BSN in 13 months. After you enrolled and pay their high tuition rates, they want you to take from them American History I and II, Texas history, and other courses that have nothing to do with Nursing. You can take these same courses from Community Colleges in California at 1/6 their cost, but if you do they may or may not accept them for credit. For example, I have a friend who took US History from a community college. UTA does not accept them for transfer credit. Their Academic Advisors are trained to do what is good for business, and not what is good for you, the student. Be careful and do not fall for their traps! They want you to stay longer in their school, and pay for their courses that nobody wants to take, such as political science, and so forth
I heard that Excelsior College gives you 35 BSN credits for your NCLEX. They don't give you the run around treatment. They are located in Albany, New York. Their tuition is a little higher, but you can graduate sooner with no hassle and stumbling blocks.
I moved to ND in 2012. The board told me they require 200 hrs of application because too many bad online RN to BSN programs are graduating nurses that are not prepared for their jobs. This is how they weed out the bad schools. I know this seems drastic but I kind of understand their thought process. So now I sit in limbo until we move again in couple of years to a different state
i thought Adn's just needed extra upper level classes and no clinicals since we mostly completed them?
I don't understand why the nursing board would have anything to say about a BSN? You already are an RN and you don't even take boards over when you get a BSN so who cares what they think? They are not your employer. It doesn't make sense to me or are you concerned you wouldn't be able to get an MSN if your BSN wasn't recognized?
When I lived in OH they only accepted 2 programs in the state it was noted under the guidelines on their website what was required for them to give credit to allow you to practice as a BSN.
I assumed most states had guidelines in the same fashion. Also when I moved to ND both I and another person were attending our orientation together she sent her BSN info to the state for her lic and they would only accept her as an ADN because she didnt have clinical application in her last 2 years in an RN to BSN transition program. She was told if she had done all 4 yesrs together at one time they would have accepted it.
At our hospital all university students intern for 200 hrs after completing their classes that is the only way they can graduate. ND is old fashion they dont like RN to BSN programs I was by them they set the rules this way to weed out bad programs
Didn't North Dakota make a BSN mandatory and then had to revoke it due to a shortage of nurses?
ND hospitals hire based on what the nursing board labels you as ie RN or BSN. Why would I spend all the money on a BSN program to be paid as an ADN, and also to move on to MSN would be a problem in this state. Like I said before this state is old fashion. I get the feeling they dont like ADN. They are so desperate to attract nurses due to the explosion of population they have lowered the standards and dont require you have a BSN to work here.
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Didn't North Dakota make a BSN mandatory and then had to revoke it due to a shortage of nurses?
Yes. Back in 1987 the ND BON enacted a law mandating that all RNs in the state be educated at the BSN level or higher. This law was repealed in 2003 because the state had dire trouble attracting RNs to live and work there all those years.
As the old saying goes, "Those who want everything end up with nothing." A sporificely populated, mostly rural state with bad winters where few people wish to live should be the last place to have ever excluded RNs with diplomas and associate degrees.
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Keep in mind that for 44 credits, plus 3 in statics if you don't already have that, and RN with an ADN can get a masters degree in nursing and skip the BSN altogether.
This goes back a few posts, but I have a friend who just got accepted into a DNP program and she HAD to have the BSN. Some programs will not allow a direct-to-MSN student in. She could do BSN-DNP b/c she had a Masters in another field, but it is important to do due diligence to find out what you need depending on where you want to go (she ended up getting a BSN in a year WHILE doing her MSN and is now in DNP school-WAAAAY too much school for me LOL)
I am curious, where did you hear about the Texas history class requirement as part of the nursing curriculum? I just looked at the nursing curriculum which includes the following classes, which all look ok to me:
Health Promotion
Professional Nursing
Holistic Health Assessment
Holistic Care of Older Adults
Leadership and Management
Nursing Research
Capstone Seminar
Care of Vulnerable Populations Across the Lifespan
Plus an additional 6 hours of electives, one of which must be a nursing elective. Could Texas history be an elective, I'm sure, I don't see anywhere where it states it is required.
@ BostonFNP-I am curious, where did you hear about the Texas history class requirement?
For one to graduate from a Texas institution, one has to do both the Texas History and Govt classes, in addition to all those pre-requisites that one is missing, in most cases, students from outside Texas would always be missing the Texas History and Govt as a pre-requisite. The classes u listed get u done with the program but do not guarantee graduation.
I went to UTA. I got my BSN in 13 mos (could have done it earlier and they are toying with a new arrangement to make it even faster.
It was cheaper by $11,000 than my local RN-BSN program. It also was going to take me almost 1.5 years less time.
UTA is a brick-and-mortar school and it is regionally and nationally accredited. I liked this as I'm not a fan of the stigma associated with a purely online program. Just my opinion.
I took Texas history. It's mandated by Texas law. I will never understand why this one class is such an obstacle for people. Just suck it up. It was interesting actually, especially compared to my liberal state.
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