RN-BSN SCAM

[elpnla]

Many ADN-BSN online programs tried to deceive students into believing that they can get their BSN from ADN in 13 months or less. That's a lie and false advertisement. They are not telling the whole story.

For example, University of Texas at Arlington advertises this past spring that you can get your degree from ADN to BSN in 13 months. After you enrolled and pay their high tuition rates, they want you to take from them American History I and II, Texas history, and other courses that have nothing to do with Nursing. You can take these same courses from Community Colleges in California at 1/6 their cost, but if you do they may or may not accept them for credit. For example, I have a friend who took US History from a community college. UTA does not accept them for transfer credit. Their Academic Advisors are trained to do what is good for business, and not what is good for you, the student. Be careful and do not fall for their traps! They want you to stay longer in their school, and pay for their courses that nobody wants to take, such as political science, and so forth

I heard that Excelsior College gives you 35 BSN credits for your NCLEX. They don't give you the run around treatment. They are located in Albany, New York. Their tuition is a little higher, but you can graduate sooner with no hassle and stumbling blocks.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

The disclaimers are in the 2003 original study; they opted (wonder why) not to include them in the abstracts.

This is a the full text of the 2003 Aiken study. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3077115/pdf/nihms250756.pdf)

Again, the statements/quotes you posted are not anywhere in the published study.

[avengingspirit1]

Thank you once again for two things, confirming what I already knew; that that the majority of you circling the wagons in defense of this "study" work for academia. Also for allowing me once again to quote from the study you again sent me which I already had. The two disclaimers are buried in the body of the study. You have to find them and pull them out of the text; doesn't seem a lot of you defending the "study" are able to do that. Talk about poverty of thought. The authors worded them so as not to stand out blatantly; but they are there. I post on here for the everyday working nurse who can have the validation that the conclusions of the BSN sudy were at best estimations by the authors, not for those in academia who may not be as smart as they think they are and want you to believe; but are definitely afraid of their depts being downsized and having to find work outside of the university fantasy world.

These effects imply that altering the educational background of hospital nurses by increasing the percentage of those earning a BSN would produce substantial decreases in mortality rates for surgical patients generally and for patients who develop complications. JAMA. 2003 Sep 24; 290(12): 1617–1623. JAMA. 2003 Sep 24; 290(12): 1617–1623.

Also thanks again, I forgot to highlight those disclaimers when I sent the study to the news organizations. I'm not going to waste time pulling each and every statement out of the study; all of you academic denizens can put your coffee and doughnuts down, use your higher degrees and find them yourselves. It's like a word search puzzle; lots of fun for you guys.

I also defend science and the scientific process; which is why I can't defend this "study". It is not science, it is propaganda. The authors did what they were paid to do. But they may be forced to answer for it. Nurses are angry; check other sites. Gov. Cuomo may have a tough re-election bid after what he did to nurses in Dec. I believe I'm done here. So excuse me if don't respond here for a while or anymore. I enjoyed every minute of it. Sorry I can't come and discuss it in person; there's no money in it for me.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

Thank you once again for two things, confirming what I already knew; that that the majority of you circling the wagons in defense of this "study" work for academia. Also for allowing me once again to quote from the study you again sent me which I already had.

This about sums it up doesn't it! Lol, what?

The two disclaimers are buried in the body of the study. You have to find them and pull them out of the text; doesn't seem a lot of you defending the "study" are able to do that.

Also thanks again, I forgot to highlight those disclaimers when I sent the study to the news organizations. I'm not going to waste time pulling each and every statement out of the study; all of you academic denizens can put your coffee and doughnuts down, use your higher degrees and find them yourselves. It's like a word search puzzle; lots of fun for you guys.

Show us where they are buried. Cite/quote the actual text not yourself from a previous post (which sounds ridiculous to even say).

These effects imply that altering the educational background of hospital nurses by increasing the percentage of those earning a BSN would produce substantial decreases in mortality rates for surgical patients generally and for patients who develop complications. JAMA. 2003 Sep 24; 290(12): 1617–1623. JAMA. 2003 Sep 24; 290(12): 1617–1623.

So excuse me if don't respond here for a while or anymore. I enjoyed every minute of it.

Perfect way to end!

[avengingspirit1]

The statements from the study as well as the study itself are below.

These effects imply that altering the educational background of hospital nurses by increasing the percentage of those earning a BSN would produce substantial decreases in mortality rates for surgical patients generally and for patients who develop complications.

ADMIN EDIT:

Read in its entirety: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3077115/

[TiffyRN, BSN, PhD]

Thank you once again for two things, confirming what I already knew; that that the majority of you circling the wagons in defense of this "study" work for academia.

Hi there. While I may not have been posting regularly recently I echo what Boston has been posting, that is, an informed analysis of the relevant literature.

How about we just relax and await the "breaking news" when you get there avenging? It's kind of you to keep dropping in and letting us know the academia gig will soon be up. BTW, I do not work for academia, still at the bedside after 26 years.

[BostonFNP, APRN]

The statements from the study as well as the study itself are below.

These effects imply that altering the educational background of hospital nurses by increasing the percentage of those earning a BSN would produce substantial decreases in mortality rates for surgical patients generally and for patients who develop complications.

Again, excellent post!