Many ADN-BSN online programs tried to deceive students into believing that they can get their BSN from ADN in 13 months or less. That's a lie and false advertisement. They are not telling the whole story.
For example, University of Texas at Arlington advertises this past spring that you can get your degree from ADN to BSN in 13 months. After you enrolled and pay their high tuition rates, they want you to take from them American History I and II, Texas history, and other courses that have nothing to do with Nursing. You can take these same courses from Community Colleges in California at 1/6 their cost, but if you do they may or may not accept them for credit. For example, I have a friend who took US History from a community college. UTA does not accept them for transfer credit. Their Academic Advisors are trained to do what is good for business, and not what is good for you, the student. Be careful and do not fall for their traps! They want you to stay longer in their school, and pay for their courses that nobody wants to take, such as political science, and so forth
I heard that Excelsior College gives you 35 BSN credits for your NCLEX. They don't give you the run around treatment. They are located in Albany, New York. Their tuition is a little higher, but you can graduate sooner with no hassle and stumbling blocks.
It seems that your facts are a bit shaky. I live in Austin and I'm currently going to a community college. All of my credits will transfer to UT as long as I complete all core classes and have at least a 3.0 GPA.
What BSN program doesn't require core classes? It's a 4 year degree. If you want that degree, then earn it. As far as Texas history, it's taught here in elementary and middle school. It's important to Texas and required by law. Don't like it? Go elsewhere. And as far as tuition, Texas has some of the best tuition rates around for in state. I'll commute and it's very reasonable compared to other 4 year institutions.
UT is very selective. I'm thankful I have an 'easy in' as long as I'm willing to meet the requirements. It's not unreasonable to expect core classes for a bachelors.
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OP...I think you are very clear about your dissatisfaction and disappointment with the system. The ADN BSN argument has gone on for years promoted by those who will benefit the most...the schools. When there are schools out there that charge $100,000.00 for an entry nursing program.....it's clear who benefits and it is not the nurse at the bedside.
While everyone can praise the laurels of more education it is clear who is behind the studies. The schools and those who benefit....the very academics that sell their books. By forcing the worker to incur more debt it ensures a compliant, although not happy, workforce. They are in debt and therefore must work.
The next economic crisis will be defaulted student loans.
With an abysmal workforce and poor employment prospects everyone wants to be a nurse and an APRN for the "Big Bucks". People who see that some nurses in parts of the country can make $60.00-$70.00/hr people forget about the cost of living surrounding that area. The moment that the economy improves and the next best thing starts.....nurses leave in drives leaving a shortage once again.
Nursing goes through cycles like this...this too shall pass.
I am not so sure my anger would be focused on the RN BSN programs...my frustration is on all of these ADN schools that cropped up charging phenomenal fees for sub par education and lying to the students about a non existent nursing shortage and that in the current job market preference is given to the BSN grad.
I have my own opinions about forcing the workforce, especially nurses with >10 years experience back to school when they would best benefit the patient by certification in their field of expertise...but that has been hashed over more than once.
I just graduated from UTA RN-BSN...took US 1 and US 2 from community college (while in uta's program)...they transferred in without a single problem or question. My advisor simply asked me to send him the transcript and he would gladly approve me for graduation, which he did within a week of receiving it.
Madras, your comments remind me to that 1/2 hour weekly TV comedy show called "Get Smart". Don Adams (Mr. Smart) fell on his back and could not get up. He asked Hyme, his robot partner, to help him and give him "a hand". Hyme, the robot partner and a human being, broke his hand from his wrist, and gave it to Mr. Smart.
That's where I learned about the nature of humans. They are amazingly stupid! That's why doctors screamed at them..
When I lived in OH they only accepted 2 programs in the state it was noted under the guidelines on their website what was required for them to give credit to allow you to practice as a BSN.
I assumed most states had guidelines in the same fashion. Also when I moved to ND both I and another person were attending our orientation together she sent her BSN info to the state for her lic and they would only accept her as an ADN because she didnt have clinical application in her last 2 years in an RN to BSN transition program. She was told if she had done all 4 yesrs together at one time they would have accepted it.
At our hospital all university students intern for 200 hrs after completing their classes that is the only way they can graduate. ND is old fashion they dont like RN to BSN programs I was by them they set the rules this way to weed out bad programs
I graduated in January from a local ADN program. I was hired into a new grad residency program at a local hospital with the caveat that I be enrolled in a BSN program. The school from which I graduated offers an RN-BSN program and offers a discount to alumni. It's worth it to me because it's the only way that I would have been hired into this position in my state. And as for the cost per credit, I'd be hard pressed to beat the cost.
It simply does not make sense!
"imported" nurses have been around for decades...again, nothing new. 
Seems the OP must've gotten their degree from a Cracker Jack box if not from a college or university yes? 
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I am still curious about OP's background and the rationale of why such a post, or the additional posts on AN.