RN-BSN SCAM

Nursing Students ADN/BSN

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  1. Do you agree that RN-BSN is a scam to deceive students?

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Many ADN-BSN online programs tried to deceive students into believing that they can get their BSN from ADN in 13 months or less. That's a lie and false advertisement. They are not telling the whole story.

For example, University of Texas at Arlington advertises this past spring that you can get your degree from ADN to BSN in 13 months. After you enrolled and pay their high tuition rates, they want you to take from them American History I and II, Texas history, and other courses that have nothing to do with Nursing. You can take these same courses from Community Colleges in California at 1/6 their cost, but if you do they may or may not accept them for credit. For example, I have a friend who took US History from a community college. UTA does not accept them for transfer credit. Their Academic Advisors are trained to do what is good for business, and not what is good for you, the student. Be careful and do not fall for their traps! They want you to stay longer in their school, and pay for their courses that nobody wants to take, such as political science, and so forth

I heard that Excelsior College gives you 35 BSN credits for your NCLEX. They don't give you the run around treatment. They are located in Albany, New York. Their tuition is a little higher, but you can graduate sooner with no hassle and stumbling blocks.

Not exactly. . .you can start within two months after submitting the required paperwork. I applied at the beginning of March and, according to my admissions counselor, the earliest I could start would be May 1st.

I had to take and pass a readiness assessment to test for college preparedness skills in reading comprehension, math, writing, and suitability for online learning. I had to submit an essay, current resume, proof of RN licensure, transcripts from all previously attended schools, completed background check, and other items prior to being granted full admission, so it is a myth that one can start WGU "almost immediately."

2 months is "almost immediately".

You did not have to wait until the next enrollment period.

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They are all the same, to get your money, period. Colleges and universities are spending billions of dollars in advertisement to persuade students

to enroll in their schools, and get their money, but they do not spend a dime to help you find a job after you graduate. Out of sight, out of mind!

Again, beware of colleges and universities.

I know for me,i will most likely have the same job i work in now,with the same wages when i get the BSN.

I am still going to pursue it,but there little thoughts in my head that make sense....

For instance,do you think years from now employers will see that i graduated form an online school and "toss my resume in the garbage."

For example,like Phoenix University grads.

Many employers admit tossing those resumes in the garbage.

of course,i know most Rn to Bsn programs have regional accreditation,but still with so many Adn Rn's getting the Bsn,what is the next thing employers are going to use to weed out potential employees?

Are employers going to want Msn degrees next?

Are they going to weed out applicants based on:

Credit scores?

GPA?

Weight?

Drug tests?

Facebook activities?

Personality Tests?

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Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

Are they going to weed out applicants based on:

Credit scores?

GPA?

Weight?

Drug tests?

Facebook activities?

Personality Tests?

Some employers are already doing just that.

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You sound honest. I am beginning to like you...

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Some employers are already doing just that.

And purely not a new concept either...:whistling:

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Are employers going to want Msn degrees next?

I don't think so, unless these MSN degreed nurses are willing to accept minimal wages like AD nurses. On the floor, they both empty similar

bedpans. Why would they pay more, especially when Medicare reimbursement is going down the drain..;) It simply does not make sense!

In fact, I heard that there is legislation pending in Congress to import cheap nurses from overseas. Now, when you see these foreign nurses

working next to you, then would you believe me that a BSN, MSN, PhD is a waste of time and money?

Beware of RN-BSN programs. They are out there to empty your pockets.

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Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

What are your credentials, OP? Just curious...

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Specializes in Critical Care.
They are all the same, to get your money, period. Colleges and universities are spending billions of dollars in advertisement to persuade students

to enroll in their schools, and get their money, but they do not spend a dime to help you find a job after you graduate. Out of sight, out of mind!

Again, beware of colleges and universities.

This is what I don't get all these colleges taking your money but when you graduate you are on your own to get a job. I think for what they charge in tuition they really should provide job placement assistance! But the reality is that college degrees are over rated and there are simply not enough jobs available for all the college grads so buyer beware! These days getting a job is more about who you know then what you know! Isn't that the whole premise behind Linked In!

I enjoyed college but when I went to the state university I was totally on my own. You are simply a number and there is no structure or guidance. You could take classes forever and they would be just happy with that. Also so many people are going part-time and then never graduate. A lot of public universities have low graduation rates. When I went to a private college it was very structured and I graduated on time with my ADN. Of course, the downside it was very expensive and needed student loans and this was back in the 90's! Now the tuition is insane there.

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I was 8 credits away from graduating from an online RN to BSN program in Ohio that was accepted by that nursing board when I had to move to North Dakota due to my husbands work. I contacted the nursing board in ND they wouldnt accept the OH degree because it didnt require clinical application while in school. I stopped attending the program. When I contact a school in ND they would only accept half of the credits I accrued from the other program. I have not went back to school since. Please contact your state board before starting a program instead of wasting your money

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I contacted the nursing board in ND they wouldnt accept the OH degree because it didnt require clinical application while in school.Please contact your state board before starting a program instead of wasting your money

Clinical application for an Rn to Bsn degree?

i thought Adn's just needed extra upper level classes and no clinicals since we mostly completed them?

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Specializes in Nurse Scientist-Research.

Rnbabyzoo,

Please clarify what the State board has to do with your degree status as long as it wasn't your initial licensure school. I've never heard of that. I've never notified my State board that I've gone back to school and completed a BSN! Am I in trouble? I notified them (on my renewal) that I completed a specialty certification but that's because then you don't have to worry with getting CE for the State, they know your certifying agency has much higher standards.

I can understand different colleges having vastly different requirements for their degrees, that's why you have to shop around.

Were you dealing with North Dakota back in the day when they required BSN for RN?

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I don't think so, unless these MSN degreed nurses are willing to accept minimal wages like AD nurses. On the floor, they both empty similar

bedpans. Why would they pay more, especially when Medicare reimbursement is going down the drain..;) It simply does not make sense!

In fact, I heard that there is legislation pending in Congress to import cheap nurses from overseas. Now, when you see these foreign nurses

working next to you, then would you believe me that a BSN, MSN, PhD is a waste of time and money?

Beware of RN-BSN programs. They are out there to empty your pockets.

Where have you been?

I have worked alongside imported nurses since i started.

Most were Filipino,but last i remember India was becoming more popular for imported nurses.

Since Filipinos have at minimum Bsn degrees I would think it would encourage us to become more educated.

That is what working with them did for me.

i noticed when i was an Lpn they did not respect me like they did when I became an RN.

I believe that is the reason hospitals in my area preferred them is because of the advanced education.

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