RN, ADN being obsolete

[lovewaves]

I recently got in contact with a nursing school (ASA college) inquired regarding a RN program. i was informed by a counselor that they only offer the BSN being that the RN license is becoming obsolete and will be within the next 2 years. Has any nurses or medical professionals heard about this?

[Horseshoe, BSN, RN]

Hi ehayes...

I do not want to burst your bubble in any way shape or form, but as an RN to a prospective RN, I must tell you, that from many years of experience, being treated like a professional is something that rarely occurs in nursing. Sorry, its just the nature of the beast. From doctors, to other nurses, to CNAs, family members, and of course, patients, you will be treated somewhere on the spectrum of being the recipient of physically violent behavior, emotional violence, verbal abuse, petty frat/ sorority style drama abuse, cliquey cliques on the job, and organizational abuse (which includes manadatory overtime, last minute cancellations, unsafe staffing, unlawful pay schemes). I've seen it all, done it all, and many days would rather be anywhere but in my nursing scrubs. Just my two cents.

Not my experience AT ALL. 22 years, 3 different facilities. Not arguing your experience, just saying it's not everyone's experience.

[CapeCodMermaid, RN]

I think there is one left in Massachusetts- Brockton Hospital School of Nursing...I think

[twinsmom788]

I been wanting to know the difference between a bsn and adn scope of practice. Is the adn limited in the clinical setting?

All RNs have the same basic scope of practice as defined in the Nurse Practice Act for your state.

[Everline]

Oh, how people warned me that I would not be able to get a hospital job with an ASN. Put me in a bit of a panic. Turns out I had no problem getting a job. Not when I first graduated, nor any time since. My first nursing job was at a magnet hospital. I will say that I do have a BA in another field, but I doubt that has anything to do with it. I've never needed a BSN and therefore had no intention whatsoever of going into debt for it. The only reason I am taking classes toward it now is because my employer is paying for it 100%.

Oh, and I, too, remember being told that practical/vocational nursing would soon be a thing of the past. That was 30 years ago...

[Yep, Me]

I was hearing this same tripe when _I_ graduated in 1978! 🤣

[Yep, Me]

Nope, not a bit! I've worked transplant icu,

Worked with the first artificial heart, home health, admin, neuroticisms, IV team, ER, med surf, OB (1 shift: it ain't for me)! On State Board to license LTC administrators & Assisted Living Home Managers, appointed by the Governor & voted President of that State Board , by that Board, my 5th year of serving. Yes, with my ADN. I paid off my $6000 student loan & now have my house nearly paid for. My friend from nsg school got her BSN, a few years later, I asked her what she got more from the BSN course: she said "another student loan." An RN is an RN. When we retire in a few years, we will see how picky the hospitals are then!

[By-a-thred, RN, ADN]

Sounds to me like someone is trying to sell you 2 additional years of student loans. "They" have been saying this since my MOTHER graduated with her ADN in 1970. As long as there is a need for BEDSIDE nurses, they will always use ADN's, LPN's and CNA's.

[johsonmichelle]

I was let down over the years because I believed the false propoganda that nurses were in very high demand here. To this day (Ok if you want to call me a conspiracy theorist) I do believe that there has been a 3 decades long underground plan to socialize medicine in the USA, and for that to succeed, healthcare becomes a charity, which then in turn, needs employees who are willing to work for little to nothing, to support free healthcare for all. So, they begin with the never ending false job ads, fake sign on bonuses click bait, that no one ever gets, establishing more and more nursing schools, churning out nurses at a rate which guarantees supply is much higher than demand, and the end result being nurses desperate for a job, not enough jobs to support the available supply of nurses, which then creates people willing to work for peanuts, and take jobs that once were dived by three people, but now have become one. This is the picture here in PA, and even new grad BSNs are finding unemployment upon graduation, LPNs have left the field, RNs are doing LPN work, and overall great harm has come to the profession as a result. With all the bureacracy in this state, one would think there would be some type of control over saturation of a job market....yet that is exactly what was intended.

If you the unemployment is so bad in PA, then why don't people try neigboring states. In MD , they have a lot of jobs , and the nursing homes are struggling to get registered nurses here. Yes these places may not be the best but aleast one can get nursing experience.

[CapeCodMermaid, RN]

And a diploma grad knows more about nursing and taking care of patients from the moment they walk in the door.

[CapeCodMermaid, RN]

The nurse practice act in your state determines your legal scope of practice. An RN is an RN since we all pass the same boards.

[Davey Do]

Although the clinical experience is the same; administration prefers hiring bsn over adn's. Maybe they think bsn nurses have more schooling time which equates to them more knowledge. What do you think?

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[staple1027]

If you the unemployment is so bad in PA, then why don't people try neigboring states. In MD , they have a lot of jobs , and the nursing homes are struggling to get registered nurses here. Yes these places may not be the best but aleast one can get nursing experience.

Thank you for the info...when its time to relocate I will consider MD.