Remember when MLK jr said, "To further the cause of social justice go down the street and rob and loot your neighbors." Me neither, because it didn't happen.
I fully sympathize with the situation in Minneapolis and the death of George Floyd. I believe in due process, but after seeing the video I was sickened by the police officer's actions. He did not need to have his knee of the neck of a man who was handcuffed and held down by two other officers. His excessive force caused the death of Floyd. He was fired and he will be arrested and charged. There will be a court case and evidence will be presented and a verdict delivered.
That's how our system works. It does not work by robbing your neighbors and destroying their livelihoods. There is no cause that is furthered by the looter's actions. There is no traction gained. Their actions haven't changed policy and ensured that justice was done. It was simply a group of people who took the opportunity to steal and destroy for personal gain. The looters are selfish because they took some of the spotlight away from George Floyd and now the nation sees another example people run amok without furthering their agenda or making any positive strides.
If the looters actually cared about Floyd or the social cause they speak of they would take civil action. It worked in the past and it would work again. The Montgomery bus boycott changed policy. But it wasn't easy, it was certainly harder than breaking glass and stealing a tv. And therein lies the problem. It's easy to riot, it's easy to steal and claim "XYZ caused me to loot." It's hard to organize like-minded people and bring about change. It takes time, grit and determination. Think how much better things would be if the thousands of people who looted and rioted got together and voted for change. They could elect someone who could enact policies to prevent something like this from happening again. That's how our system works, not by destroying your own neighborhood.
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11 minutes ago, Numenor said:
Convenient you would post a bunch if names without delving into each case and its individual validity. It doesn't prove a point, just a narrative.
I am guessing Kelly Thomas doesn't ring a bell?
Thank you for posting further evidence that police departments across our country are harboring and protecting gangs of violent and murderous thugs. Yes, people were outraged and protested that brutal beating. He wasn't black, he just wasn't perfect enough for those white nationalist cops...the POTUS would have just made fun of him...am I right?
Sorry, complete and utter *** and to suggest otherwise means you’re part of the damn problem.
LOL WOW! this lines up with exactly the FBI.gov crime stats shows year after year. Actually if we take a look at the statistics listed it shows the vast majority were still white and should expect to see higher number among blacks if we matched it to the actual FBI stats for violent crimes.
Helps to read the article and compare to readily available govt listed sources.
Thank you for posting further evidence that police departments across our country are harboring and protecting gangs of violent and murderous thugs. Yes, people were outraged and protested that brutal beating. He wasn't black, he just wasn't perfect enough for those white nationalist cops...the POTUS would have just made fun of him...am I right?
Once AGAIN, I am against police brutality and it needs to be corrected, but I am not going to bend the knee to a stoked racial narrative. This didn't even make the news and I didn't even live that far away. There are dozens if not hundreds of more cases that happen but they don't fit that perfect narrative to keep the media and instagram/facebook interested.
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4 minutes ago, Numenor said:
Once AGAIN, I am against police brutality and it needs to be corrected, but I am not going to bend the knee to a stoked racial narrative. This didn't even make the news and I didn't even live far way, there are dozens if not hundreds of more cases that happen but they don't fit that perfect narrative to keep the media and instagram/facebook interested.
Nonsense. Of course it made the news.
I thanked you for providing further evidence that we have a widespread and dangerous problem with violent and unaccountable police. Is there some larger point about the idea that none of us are really safe from the police in the face of rising police violence against people of all colors and creed that you are making?
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5 minutes ago, Numenor said:
Once AGAIN, I am against police brutality and it needs to be corrected, but I am not going to bend the knee to a stoked racial narrative. This didn't even make the news and I didn't even live far way, there are dozens if not hundreds of more cases that happen but they don't fit that perfect narrative to keep the media and instagram/facebook interested.
Besides, bending the knee is a treasonous form of protest, remember? Especially if you are black and the anthem is playing.
I thanked you for providing further evidence that we have a widespread Ahmad dangerous problem with violent and unaccountable police. Is there some larger point about the idea that none of us are really safe from the police in the face of rising police violence against people of all colors and creed that you are making?
Yeah my mistake I must have missed the comparison between nationwide riots/protests and a blip on the 11am news stations. Totally comparable.
Yes, police brutality is a problem for ALL people and remains deadly for ALL people. This is NOT a black vs police issue.
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1 minute ago, Numenor said:
Yeah my mistake I must have missed the comparison between nationwide riots/protests and a blip on the 11am news stations. Totally comparable.
Yes, police brutality is a problem for ALL people and remains deadly for ALL people. This is NOT a black vs police issue.
You are welcome to believe what makes you feel better but the math disputes your claim that it's the same for all people. That's a nice way of telling your black friends and neighbors that you know more about police treatment of blacks than they do...
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15 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:
Thank you for posting further evidence that police departments across our country are harboring and protecting gangs of violent and murderous thugs. Yes, people were outraged and protested that brutal beating. He wasn't black, he just wasn't perfect enough for those white nationalist cops...the POTUS would have just made fun of him...am I right?
Mr. Thomas was beat to death for not knowing where his ID was. Some of his words were "I can't breathe". I pray that if nothing else ALL police will know to STOP doing what they are doing when someone says, "I CAN'T BREATHE!"
You are welcome to believe what makes you feel better but the math disputes your claim that it's the same for all people. That's a nice way of telling your black friends and neighbors that you know more about police treatment of blacks than they do...
No math directly supports my claim if you bothered to read the FBI data I listed. So there is 2-3% (roughly BM age 18-60) of the population committing near 50% of the violent crime. Yeah, of course there are going to be disproportionate deaths 2/2 police. This directly correlates with the amount of white violent crime and associated deaths as well. +/- a few percentage points.
I am not going to debate feelings or emotions or fall into other logical fallacies.
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I simply asked you to provide your source and you did. Lighten up Francis.