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"You put me and my unborn child's life at risk"

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TigerGalLE is a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU, Med/Surg.

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santhony44 is a MSN, RN, NP and specializes in FNP, Peds, Epilepsy, Mgt., Occ. Ed.

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Since she is a physician,she should have known to check her own titer before becoming pregnant- and if she lacked immunity, to have had the immunizations. You work in health care, you run the risk of coming into contact with communicable disease. DUH.

As others have said, she should use proper precautions. Some illnesses, including chicken pox, are contagious before there are obvious symptoms. And, too, you never know what someone has under their clothes that they haven't mentioned to you.

Congenital problems from chicken pox can happen, of course, but it's pretty rare. I've been a nurse a long time, done a lot of peds, and worked in a teaching hospital, and I've never seen it, personally.

She was rude and inappropriate. You were in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation here. If you'd come and told her that you thought the patient had shingles, she would've ripped you for diagnosing.

You didn't do anything wrong. You did not put anyone at risk!!!!

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RainDreamer has 13 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in NICU.

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I wondered about that myself! There were enough ppl there to see it. Mind you, it could backfire horribly.

I definitely think that should be written up, there is absolutely NO reason whatsoever for her to speak to anyone like that.

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Since she is a physician,she should have known to check her own titer before becoming pregnant- and if she lacked immunity, to have had the immunizations. You work in health care, you run the risk of coming into contact with communicable disease. DUH.

As others have said, she should use proper precautions. Some illnesses, including chicken pox, are contagious before there are obvious symptoms. And, too, you never know what someone has under their clothes that they haven't mentioned to you.

Congenital problems from chicken pox can happen, of course, but it's pretty rare. I've been a nurse a long time, done a lot of peds, and worked in a teaching hospital, and I've never seen it, personally.

She was rude and inappropriate. You were in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation here. If you'd come and told her that you thought the patient had shingles, she would've ripped you for diagnosing.

You didn't do anything wrong. You did not put anyone at risk!!!!

I actually did see a baby who was born deformed because his mother had chicken pox when she was pregnant. He was a boarder in the peds ward because his parents abandon him when he was born.

That being said, if she was so concerned about putting her baby at risk, she should have taken a job in research, or something away from infectious patients while she was pregnant. She also never took into consideration that she could catch communicable diseases out in the community while shopping at a mall, or grocery store. You never know what someone has, therefore always use universal precautions, and watch when you are out and about in the community.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

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From what I have read, she needs to go back to medical school.

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Chaya has 15 years experience as a ASN, RN and specializes in Rehab, Med Surg, Home Care.

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If she is assessing pts in that setting, she should know that it's a given that she will be exposed to all sorts of risks all every day. It's up to her to decide the level of potential risk she is willing to take and if she should continue to practice in her current setting.. Something is wrong if she thinks this is your responsibility.

Diagnosing medical conditions is not within your scope of practice. Obviously the doc does not know her own scope of practice or she would be aware that she should listen to the nurse that is informing her of a problem with the patient.

:yeahthat:

End of story.

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TigerGalLE is a BSN, RN and specializes in ICU, Med/Surg.

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Thanks to everyone for the support. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this was out of line.

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Report the incident....Doctors need to be held accountable for misbehavior just like anyone else.....

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madwife2002 has 26 years experience as a BSN, RN and specializes in RN, BSN, CHDN.

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Thanks to everyone for the support. I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this was out of line.

You are in no way wrong, it is amazing how some Doctors think they can say what they like to us Nurses.

You should be proud of yourself you handled the situation perfectly

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anyone who has not had vacination or previously had chicken pox can develop chicken pox from the exposure to shingles

dd had chicken pox at two yrs of age when exposed to shingles, she had another bout [much milder] when pregnant, her doctor told her that the worse time for baby was during first trimester, dgs had no problems except for being hyper but that runs in the males of the family

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jnette has 10 years experience as a ASN, EMT-I and specializes in Hemodialysis, Home Health.

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"You put me and my unborn child's life at risk"

My response would have gone something like this:

No, you did that yourself when you examined a patient without using universal precautions. What I did was save your professional backside by pointing out a potentially serious medical complication that you overlooked by failing to thoroughly examine your immuno-compromised patient. You may now apologize for your bad behavior and thank me for saving your arse right here in front of the very group of people who watched you try to humiliate me.

Ah yes.. perfect !!!

Can I keep you in my back pocket for those times I need to have a great, speedy comeback ? :D

I never think of the good stuff until waaaaaaaaaaaaaay later. :rolleyes;

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Blee O'Myacin is a BSN, RN and specializes in ED, ICU, Heme/Onc.

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Report the incident....Doctors need to be held accountable for misbehavior just like anyone else.....

I totally agree. The medical director and the CEO of the hospital need to be aware of this.

By the way, the doctor demanded that you and another "more experienced" nurse practice medicine without a license and diagnose the rash for her. It might even be worthy of the disciplinary action by the AMA. Docs are quite territorial about their scope of practice (just read the med student forums and the CRNA/Anesthesiologist debates) - they just might be willing to make an example out of this doctor.

I do hope you documented that you reported the rash to the physician before she went into the room to examine the patient - just to CYA.

Blee

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Liddle Noodnik has 30 years experience and specializes in Alzheimer's, Geriatrics, Chem. Dep..

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...something like this:

No, you did that yourself when you examined a patient without using universal precautions. What I did was save your professional backside by pointing out a potentially serious medical complication that you overlooked by failing to thoroughly examine your immuno-compromised patient. You may now apologize for your bad behavior and thank me for saving your arse right here in front of the very group of people who watched you try to humiliate me.

EXCELLENT!!!

ha ha ha

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