"Don't waste your time getting your BSN..."

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People are always trying to tell me that I am going to waste my time by not stopping after getting my ASN. They say that getting your BSN just gets you management positions and that it does not pay more. I am going for my masters so I can be a CNM, so I have to have my BSN anyway but, how could it be true that a person with a BSN gets the same as a person with a ASN? (Aside from the fact that working in different dept can make a difference)

Seriously, if you're that bored, why read it and why post something that really doesn't contribute a thing? :)

It will run it's course in due time, until someone else comes along and revives it. :)

Because I have the same rights to this site as any other member....or do I? Aren't we a little testy tonight?

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Specializes in IM/Critical Care/Cardiology.

Isn't it a great feeling when people come into your life and u do someting to further yourself. Our co-workers can make our day, and yes even change our lives! Congrats, Steph.

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Specializes in Med/surg,Tele,PACU,ER,ICU,LTAC,HH,Neuro.

Well I need to apologies to the board and Prreppygirl for responding to a small portion of her post that had been spliced for another post. I learn now why threads can be long. The part that offends and causes retaliation is calmed if you go to the original post and read it in full. Then the person isn't a monster, but someone with a different view about the same frustrations. I don't have to agree with them. the way I responded resulted in a nasty food in my mouth. I think even if a post is long you may be wiser to post the whole thread in a quote. But that can take up alot of banwidth....sigh

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Specializes in IM/Critical Care/Cardiology.

It could have been a bad time or an angry time for the same poster I apologized to. Why? Because it caught me so off guard in that moment, even though I have been following the posts, I plain and simply lost it. Whew, I hear ya.

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Specializes in neuro, critical care, open heart..

This discussion brings back an old saying that my CNA instructor told us several years ago "It's not my fault it took you 4 years to learn what it took me 2!!!":lol2:

I am currently an ADN, but my goal is to be an ARNP. I am considering going through the College Network to obtain my BSN. Has anyone ever used them before, and if so, what's your opinion? My BSN degree will be from Indiana State University. I have spoke with someone from The College Network, and it sounds very interesting and simple to complete. Just looking for some advice and any personal experiences

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Specializes in Med-Surg.
Because I have the same rights to this site as any other member....or do I? Aren't we a little testy tonight?

Other people who have posted off-topic remarks that are not maturely contributing to the conversation have been deleted, so yes, you do have the same "rights" as other people. :lol2:

"I" (not we, I haven't split my personality today yet) am not testy.

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Specializes in Med-Surg.

I am currently an ADN, but my goal is to be an ARNP. I am considering going through the College Network to obtain my BSN. Has anyone ever used them before, and if so, what's your opinion? My BSN degree will be from Indiana State University. I have spoke with someone from The College Network, and it sounds very interesting and simple to complete. Just looking for some advice and any personal experiences

These questions should be posted in our distance learning forum here: https://allnurses.com/forums/f125/ that way you'll get more responses and this thread can stay on track (or disappear).

There are a couple of stickeys about RN to BSN programs. My ex-spouse used College Network to get his Masters and had a good experience with them.

They are basically a middle-man and you can cut them out and contact the schools directly and save some money, in my opinion.

Thanks.

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I agree with the 6 months to one year PAID MANDATORY INTERNSHIP for all graduate nurses. Build it in as part of the full licensing process.

It would help to reduce turn over and burn out as new nurses would not be "bait".

Doctor's get paid "internships" they can't get a full license without AT LEAST one year. Why shouldn't nurses?

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Specializes in Med-Surg.

Might not be a bad idea John, but in the high cost environment that we are in I doubt it will fly because no one is going to pay for it.

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Specializes in ER - trauma/cardiac/burns. IV start spec.

This thread is very much like the reason that Iraq will never be settled. Too many chiefs and not enough indians with control over their own brains. Lets put this post into perspective

1: Nurses will not be taken seriously because we have no union.

2: We can't develop a union because we are made up of zelots.

3: Iraq has Sunnies, Shites and KUrds - we have ASN/ADN/. BSN, MSN

4: the three groups in Iraq cannot agree on how to run their country

we cannot agree to not look down on the person with the lower degree

5: The Boards of nursing in each state should sit down and make the rules the same from state to state

6: The Iraq's need to agree that all three religions should be treated equal.

Hope I did not OFFEND anyone. We (the Earth) will rue the day that people had to become politically correct. Don't like the differences leave. I was working on March 11, 2003 nights and my hubby (OR Tech) and I stayed for CPR recert. On March 12, 2003 at 9AM CDT my career came to a sudden and abrupt end. Latex finally put me in my own ER with 2ER Docs 3 of my nursing friends and anathesia standing over my bed watching moniters and me. No I didnot hove to go on vent racemic epi treatments along with IV steroids and H1 and H2 blockers did their job.

I worked 9 years + in the ER, when the ER docs saw me coming around the corner I got hugs and thank god you are here. When me and my husband came around the corner the whole Er heard = THE A-TEAM is here. I trained 8 groups of residents in their rotations. I watched as every BSN hired lasted one night and quit the next morning. I watched old die, young die, took care of burn victims some that lived and some that didn't, stab wounds. GSW, delievered babies in the parking lot. So No One should say that just because the class has ended so has the learning.

My first night with one of the ER docs, that most nurses did not like, and he was trying to rattle my cage. I looked at him (in font of the patient) and said you know this is my first night and the only stupid question is the one you don't ask but if you will make up your damn mind I will get the dressing on this lady. He looked shocked and the patient, despite her best efforts started laughing, looked at him and said she is right you just keep changing things to try to get her goat but she has your number. Sorry for long story but it is true the only stupid question a nurse asks is the one that they don't ask. So every night was a class for all of us - just what degree would you suggest for this nurse that graduated with an ASN and then for 9 years learned something new every night she worked.

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Specializes in Med-Surg.
I watched as every BSN hired lasted one night and quit the next morning. I watched old die, young die, took care of burn victims some that lived and some that didn't, stab wounds. GSW, delievered babies in the parking lot. So No One should say that just because the class has ended so has the learning.

Good post. (Shortened in my quote for brevity). Any speculation as why every BSN nurse only lasts one day. Here the BSNs and ADNs take similar classes, have the same number of clinical hours (although the BSNs get clinicals in areas the BSNs don't like ER and ICU) and naturally take the same NCLEX, and are fairly on equal footing. Wonder what's different about where you work?

I 100% agree that when the classroom ends, the learning doesn't. I'm not sure anyone is saying that. I'm sure you can say with confidence your education up to this point equals that of any BSN, just based on experience and continuing ed. :)

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Specializes in oncology, surgical stepdown, ACLS & OCN.
Where did you hear this? I haven't heard of separate orientations for BSN vs. ADN. I've only seen "New Grad RN" orientation, which vary quite a bit in length. Specialty areas such as ICU usually have longer orientations.

The hospital that I work in has a program for graduate RN's wether they are diploma, ADN, or BSN. I'm in the northeast part of the contry.:welcome:

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