"Don't waste your time getting your BSN..."

[HeartsOpenWide]

People are always trying to tell me that I am going to waste my time by not stopping after getting my ASN. They say that getting your BSN just gets you management positions and that it does not pay more. I am going for my masters so I can be a CNM, so I have to have my BSN anyway but, how could it be true that a person with a BSN gets the same as a person with a ASN? (Aside from the fact that working in different dept can make a difference)

[Tweety, BSN, RN]

Remember we have to respect everyone's right to hold an opinion in this subject, as long as the opinion is given with mature respect. If we disagree, we must also do so with respect.

Thanks. You're friendly moderator. Just a reminder, not speaking to anyone in particular because so far, so good, but it can get a bit heated sometimes. Carry on.

[2beanurse]

The more education you have, the more knowledge and power you have. If anything obtain your BSN for personal achievement. Why shouldn't a BSN have a higher pay, they went an extra step to get that degree. Your right we all do the same job, but the more education you have the more options you have. Just as an ADN can have other credentials like ACLS, PALS, TNCC, CRN, CERN, and so on that raises their pay over any other ADN or BSN.

[suzy253, RN]

To be come a registered nurse you just have to pass the NCLEX.

Well if that is the case I think everyone and their brother should be able to take the NCLEX straight out of high school!

You really believe that? I thought you had to graduate from an accredited school in order to sit for the NCLEX.

[txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN]

please clarify , i thought the use of magnet status applied to all rn's.

the best thing that ever happened to nursing and the registered professional nurse is magnet status.

[txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN]

your gonna make a lot of friends with this. my personal opinion is why did this make it to page 26. the same thing is being said over and over... there is no way that minimum entry will ever be a bsn, just not possible. all this is your opinion and thank the good lord you are the minority with this mess. if you want respect for the nursing profession, you need to start with respecting your fellow nurses.

now, if some "nurses" out there agree we should stay in that position or they like being in that position, fine, but bsns out there should not be met with caustic sarcasm. break out the bsn/rn from the adn/rn by making it rn for bsn and above and rnt for registered nurse technician grade.

because that is what less than a bsn truly is!

[sunnyjohn]

I pursue higher education for my own benefit.

LPN or ADN or BSN or MSN or DnSc or PHd- I don't care what other think. It's for me...

[scooterRN52]

My opinion of the ADN/RN debate:

"You don't know what you don't know"....The nurses with the lower level degree do not KNOW what they DO NOT know. Once you learn and find out what you didn't know before - then you KNOW why BSN is the way to go.

Education in ANY subject rounds out the human experience.

ADN is a technician position; BSN is a professional position.

Having said that: If you can afford to and have the intellect to do so, get a BSN,RN.

Why? The statements in most ads for nurses: "BSN preferred"; "BSN required".

Get the BSN early on and you will ALWAYS have it.

Calling a diploma nurse a nurse is like calling and x-ray technician a radiologist or like calling a day care worker a teacher. An x-ray technician isn't a radiologist and an ADN isn't a "Professional Nurse" - he/she is a technical nurse.

AS long as my liscence reads professional nurse, I am an RN even though the BSN programs call us ADN and diploma nurses ( technical nurses) I was in a BSN program and all they taught was the history of nursing and management classes!

Most of the BSn's that I have precepted really can't hit the ground running! T hey have poor organizational skills.

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

My opinion of the ADN/RN debate:

"You don't know what you don't know"....The nurses with the lower level degree do not KNOW what they DO NOT know. Once you learn and find out what you didn't know before - then you KNOW why BSN is the way to go.

Education in ANY subject rounds out the human experience.

ADN is a technician position; BSN is a professional position.

Having said that: If you can afford to and have the intellect to do so, get a BSN,RN.

Why? The statements in most ads for nurses: "BSN preferred"; "BSN required".

Get the BSN early on and you will ALWAYS have it.

Calling a diploma nurse a nurse is like calling and x-ray technician a radiologist or like calling a day care worker a teacher. An x-ray technician isn't a radiologist and an ADN isn't a "Professional Nurse" - he/she is a technical nurse.

Quite honestly, the above 'opinion' doesn't do anything to promote any unity in nursing. If anything, it alienates.:trout:

It's one thing to support furthering education. It another when the rationale for doing so includes false statements of implication (ex. "calling a diploma nurse a nurse"), assumptions, and comparisons of apples to broccoli.

[gilli303]

Go get it. If you don't have immediate need for it, keep it under your pillow.

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

I am not trying to put ANYONE down, I know how hard ADN, LPN - ALL of us work on the job.

Ya coudda fooled me.

[Jerico, BSN, RN]

You really believe that? I thought you had to graduate from an accredited school in order to sit for the NCLEX.

I think you read it out of context.

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

Look at the development of MAGNET status.

I will say, i know from experience, and not even being an RN yet, that Magnet status is not all it's cracked up to be. It's a nice feather in a hospital's cap, however, that feather was lying in a pile of poo before it was put on the hat.